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Posted by: JustCarolHoney 9th October 2021, 12:24 AM

Hi my luvs

When do we think Kylie will have her 'Believe' moment? I think it will be from her next full studio album. I feel like it is coming!

What do you think dolls?

Love you guys lots!

Thank you all for your love and light!

Just Carol Honey

Posted by: Liam.k. 9th October 2021, 12:33 AM

She’s had it with Can’t Get You Out of My Head.

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 9th October 2021, 12:50 AM

Thanks my luv.

I am still hopeful it is coming. Cher had hers after a few years of flops so I am hoping Kylies is still to come. Cher was in her 50s when she had 'Believe' in the charts. Kylie was in her 30s when she has CGYOMH.

So I am hoping Kylie will have hers before shes 60.

Fingers crossed my hun.

Just Carol Honey

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 9th October 2021, 12:54 AM

Yeah, Kylie already had it with CGYOMH and also J-Lo had one with 'On The Floor'.

I think Britney might still be due hers though, especially with all the #FreeBritney goodwill.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th October 2021, 01:51 AM

Kylie def had hers with cant get you out of my head plus spinning around was another huge hit in terms of putting kylie right back on the map and was the stepping stone to even bigger things ahead.id love it to happen again but it's unlikely and best of luck to britney if she does it after the hell the woman has been put through.

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 9th October 2021, 07:20 AM

Thanks luvies.

Lets see. Fingers crossed Kylies Believe moment is still coming. I feel like head spinning lovers were just normal big hits and her believe moment would come in her 50s like Cher.

How young is Kylie now? 53?

Posted by: spiceboy 9th October 2021, 09:09 AM

Totally this

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 9th October 2021, 12:54 PM

I am holding out my luvs

I think she has another big single in her beef curtains

Just Carol Honey

Posted by: ___∆___ 9th October 2021, 02:14 PM

So pleased to see you return Kween Carol

Posted by: SmileyKylie 9th October 2021, 02:49 PM

I think another big single is capable but would probably be a feature on someone else's record

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 10th October 2021, 12:09 AM

Hi my hun

I am so pleased to be back as well!

Thanks hun

Just Carol Honey

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 10th October 2021, 06:03 AM

Yep. The only way is if she features on a main promoted Dua Lipa single, or perhaps a Calvin Harris track. That's the only way she'll see the top 40 again, and let's face it something like that just ain't gonna happen.

I'm at peace with that now. She sells albums really well, and has big success with tours. Nobody who's been in the industry that long can get hit singles anymore, so to be outperforming all her peers from back in the day is remarkable and something to be thankful for.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 10th October 2021, 06:04 AM

I just wrote that last post blind drunk, so I hope it made sense 🙈

Posted by: Monzo 10th October 2021, 06:59 AM

I suppose in a few years a new super successful producer will have a hit with Kylie as a feature, but I don't see a megahit for her just as Kylie on her own anymore.

Posted by: CJK 10th October 2021, 07:37 AM

Yeah, I agree with last couple of posts - but I think it's likely to be a reworking of one of her old songs and would be something like Kygo did with Higher Love or Elton has managed with Cold Heart.

Streaming platforms just won't playlist her new stuff in a prominent enough way for her to have a hit with it now.

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 10th October 2021, 09:45 AM

It made perfect sense my hun

Just Carol Honey

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th October 2021, 02:02 PM

I do agree with this, but I also like to see them trying to get a top 40 aswell with addition of physicals etc but yed I'm starting to be at peace with how her singles do nowadays. I hope she can rack up another 1 or 2 number 1 albums, ideally I'd love her to achieve 10 number 1 albums before she calls it a day and I think it's very achievable.

Posted by: Monzo 10th October 2021, 04:41 PM

Maybe Santa Baby will give Kylie a top 40 entry every year.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th October 2021, 05:45 PM

Hopefully it will, should get there this year again as she will be promoting her disco material in q4 keeping her name well out there.

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 10th October 2021, 07:54 PM

Santa baby will eventually give Kylie her 3rd million selling single my huns

Is it possible any of her other singles could pass a million?

Just Carol Honey

Posted by: pippa 10th October 2021, 07:57 PM

Santa Baby has fast become one of Kylies biggest selling singles and will continue to increase sales close to 100,000 each year unless chart rules change again.

Posted by: Liam.k. 14th October 2021, 01:31 AM

I guess it depends on how you look at it. When I hear people talking about a 'Believe' moment, I think about a song released quite far into an artist's career that takes on a life of its own - a phenomenon that doesn't occur again - and 'Can't Get You Out of My Head' very much fits that for Kylie. Both artists have had very different chart histories so it's hard to say Kylie should have a 'Believe' moment now that she's in her 50s or had x amount of years without a hit; their careers didn't align before so why would they now?

If the question is simply can Kylie achieve another hit in her 50s or older, then I agree with the comments raised already in this thread that it's probably only going to happen if she features on a high-profile artist's release or gets a reworking of one of her previous hits. However, I'm very much on this stance:


(also, just want to address this idea that Cher was achieving flop singles / was quiet on the music scene prior to 'Believe'. Cher has always had dry spells in her chart history, she's had a few big hits but very sporadically, so it wasn't unusual or particularly something that could have been a barrier for her to achieve another hit. She had a #1 in 1995, just three years earlier. It wasn't a shock that 'Believe' was a hit, it was the scale of it.)

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 19th October 2021, 02:18 PM

Exactly hun. No one was shocked Cher had a hit but it was a 50 odd year old woman having such a huge hit.

You never know what makes a hit a hit hun and I have a feeling Kylie will grace us with the top 10 (hopefully number 1) at some point again before shes 60 hun. Maybe not to the scale of 'Believe' but a nice hit.

Gosh where is everyones fight my huns. If Kylie can come back from the late 90s she can come back from this with a hit huns.

Thanks my huns

Just Carol Honey

Posted by: pippa 19th October 2021, 11:05 PM

When Cher released Believe Radio stations were not as ageist as they are now which has a big impact.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 20th October 2021, 12:32 AM

Artists such as Kylie, Cher, Madonna etc have very little chance of hits anymore, they get little streaming support, radio support is limited as her performance slots. Maybe the structure of the charts will change again but how the charts currently work the best we can hope for is that their singles even chart at all.

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 23rd May 2023, 02:11 PM

Hi my huns

Reviving this thread as I feel this could very well be Kylies Cher moment. Fingers crossed.

Just Carol Honey ❤️

Posted by: -Jay- 23rd May 2023, 02:27 PM

You were bang on the money with this prediction Carol x

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 23rd May 2023, 02:42 PM

Thanks my hun

I am changing my name to cyrstal carol. The crystals told me and paved the way for this prediction. Does anyone remember mystic meg? Or am I the only ancient relic here? Haha. I might have to get my hair cut in a bob style.

Just Carol Honey ❤️

Posted by: Sacred3 23rd May 2023, 10:44 PM

Music industry has changed now, and it seems older females don't seem to get that moment as much anymore which is sad!

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 24th May 2023, 06:14 AM

I agree hun but hopefully Padam Padam takes off.

Just Carol Honey ❤️

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th May 2023, 11:28 PM

Sometimes you just wonder about the audience reach and how it can help overcome ageism, Kate Bush Running up that hill was a great example of when a song hits the right audience people engage with it and the artist or their age doesnt come into it its purely the song. Padam Padam on a much smaller scale has successfully managed to make a breakthrough to an audience outside the fanbase and for many of the streams this week its possible the first time some of those people streamed a Kylie song or possibly bought a Kylie song on a digital platform. Radio however is different its like they are afraid ( some stations not all) of playing music by an artist who is anywhere over 30 or 40, instead they should just concentrate on the music and not the age of the artist singing it.

Posted by: neill2407 25th May 2023, 07:32 PM

As others have said, it was CGYOOMH.

Posted by: ___∆___ 25th May 2023, 07:44 PM

Whilst ‘Padam, Padam’ is not her Cher moment I still think it could turn into a significant ‘event’ - if the single takes off more than it already has then it would be a huge achievement and moment - a 55 year old, decades into her career, connecting with the GP and bucking the industry standard and media expectation.

Posted by: Jessie Where 25th May 2023, 08:11 PM

How many female artists have had a top 40 hit across 5 different decades?

I can think of Cher off the top of my head.

Posted by: spiceboy 25th May 2023, 08:11 PM

I mean I hope Padam Padam turns into a hit for Kylie, but a Cher moment it is not lol. Believe became the biggest selling single by a female artist ever in the UK.

Posted by: Liam.k. 25th May 2023, 08:20 PM

I think Tina Turner has the record with seven decades (although this is counting 'The Best' re-entering the Top 10 in 2010 for the 2010s).

Diana Ross also spans 5 decades.

Posted by: -Jay- 25th May 2023, 08:27 PM

I'll come back to you at the end of 2023 when Padam Padam has sold 2 million

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 26th May 2023, 07:34 AM

Hi my hun

I dont believe a 'cher' moment is that the song sells and does exactly the same as the believe song. I dont see it as a literal translation of doing exactly the same as believe.

I see a 'cher' moment as when the more unexpected happens and as many others have said, when a song connects with the GP and with more people than the normal fan base. A song that sort of breaks out of the norms or what is to be expected from a female singer of a certain age.

This time a couple of years ago, I do not believe many of you expected Kylie to have a top 40 with no phsyicals and with prettt much one version of the song on streaming and no remixes. I know we got the extended mix yesterdat but I think top 40 was a given by that point.

Thanka my hun

Just Carol Honey ❤

Posted by: -Jay- 26th May 2023, 01:22 PM

^ Yeah, I agree! I feel like "a Believe moment" in terms of the 2020s really means "defying the odds as an older female artist", rather than it literally being about replicating Believe (i.e. a multi-week huge selling #1).

Back in the 90s it wasn't too unusual for an older artist to rack up some Top 20 singles, or even Top 10. For instance in 1999 we had Diana Ross (aged 55 at the time) and Tina Turner (aged 59 at the time) achieve #9 and #10 peaking singles - Not Over You Yet and When the Heartache Is Over, respectively. Neither had great longevity - Diana 3 weeks Top 40, Tina got 4. Compared to this, Cher's Believe was extraordinary.

So in the 2020s I think the Diana/Tina singles Top 10 successes are more akin to when Kylie reached the 50s area with Say Something and Magic - not massive hits, they had some reach but not extraordinary. Whereas Padam Padam aiming for being well within the Top 40, with all signs pointing towards a few weeks of charting - that's such an outlier, like Believe was in the 90s. Has anyone older than Kylie had a hit single on the level of Padam Padam in the 2020s, outside of Elton John? (Not to knock Elton's successes but collaborating with Dua Lipa and Britney Spears on songs that interpolate his classics... or hopping onto an Ed Sheeran Christmas single... feels quite different to Kylie on a brand new single all by herself).

Posted by: Jessie Where 26th May 2023, 01:50 PM

Plus I suppose we don't know yet just how far 'Padam Padam' can go if it keeps on snowballing, the sky could be the limit!

Posted by: -Jay- 26th May 2023, 02:47 PM

Imagine if we could eventually be celebrating a Top 20... or a Top 10?! I guess we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves but who knows!!

P.S. Just remembered the Michael Ball & Captain Tom Moore single from April 2020, in terms of old artists having success in the singles chart in 2020, although that was clearly quite a different situation to Kylie's single!

Posted by: Voodoo 26th May 2023, 11:19 PM

Kate Bush

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 26th May 2023, 11:21 PM

Wouldnt a Top 10 just be something else if it happens, dont get me wrong top 30 this week is also great but going a few steps further would be just another kylie does it again moment.

Posted by: -Jay- 26th May 2023, 11:35 PM

True! Although I feel like the circumstances are so different, what with it being a revival of an 80s hit recorded when she was in her 20s, rather than it being a brand new recording like Padam Padam.


Let's keep everything crossed

Posted by: spiceboy 27th May 2023, 04:45 PM

Top 10 would just be the icing on the cake.

Honestly if you had told me Kylie would be charting better than Madonna in the 2020's I would never have believed you, she really has cemented herself as the ultimate 'legacy' female act in the UK.

Posted by: ___∆___ 27th May 2023, 05:09 PM

^^ This even as a lifelong fan and hardcore collector I never thought id see a Kylie single take off again unless she got lucky with a feature or an old song going viral.

The best I ever hope and pray for with each single is if she can snatch a week at #39, the fact this is looking like it’s turning into an actual hit outside of her core fanbase is incredible.

Posted by: Sacred3 28th May 2023, 10:48 PM

Of all popstars, Dannii deserves the Cher moment!

Posted by: ___∆___ 29th May 2023, 08:50 AM

Maybe if she returned to her music career full time she might get one

Posted by: Jessie Where 29th May 2023, 12:10 PM

Certainly not with what she's been releasing over the last few years.

Posted by: Sacred3 29th May 2023, 10:22 PM

Very true !

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 11th June 2023, 05:47 PM

Hi huns

Do I have anymore people convinced of Kylie having a believe moment?

Just Carol Honey ❤️