Netherlands 2024
Joost Klein
Europapa
Rapper Joost Klein has been picked to represent the Netherlands!
Omg, I appreciate this swerve from The Netherlands, I've been getting a little bored of them peddling the same sound every year for the last decade, even though it's produced some very high quality entries.
Friesenjung was a big hit in my chart this summer, and this choice will get the DACH region televoters on board at least you'd think?
The song will be in Dutch apparently.
Lord have mercy
The idea of a rap song does intrigue me, but then I loved Malik Harris a couple of years ago and he came last…..
this cannot be bad if it's in Dutch *.*
What a bop! reminds me of Scooter vs happy hardcore from the 90s
I respect the icon game
Song needs some time to grow but very welcome game-switch from the Netherlands, their old schtick had run well dry.
Really like this, the hardstyle part is a genre I really never thought we’d see in Eurovision. I like the slower part at the end too, and it’s very catchy.
Someone behind me in the uni library was watching this as it premiered
I knew it would be an entertaining song based on the title!
This is very different for the Netherlands based on their entries in the last few years, cant see this doing all that great.
Can't stop listening to this. I think it will do really well in the televote and be a big European hit, not sure what the juries will make of it but surprised it's not in the odds top ten.
Safe to say this is not my cup of tea. 5/10
The more I hear this, I think this might be the Cha Cha Cha of the year over Rim Tim Tagi Dim, not musically just in terms of like it being a breakout smash that will eat the televote
So I don’t mind this and of the songs I’ve listened to so far it does stand out
It does sound like they are going with a Cha Cha Cha spin off (which I get as it was popular, but surely it will suffer in the jury vote)
Third week on the top in Netherlands (Arcade had only two)
Joost has released an EP of remixes called Europapa: Greatest Hits.
Love this 'Ringtone' version, which essentially turns it into a Jamster style mid-00s jingle.
https://eurovisionworld.com/esc/the-netherlands-joost-klein-not-rehearsing-until-further-notice
Could we be seeing our first artist pull out over the situation at hand?
If he’s disqualified I genuinely hope the pro Palestine artists like Silvester, Marina, Bambie and Nemo pull out too, f*** the whole thing up for them
Is Olly not pro Palestine too?
Everyone should let Israel sing alone tomorrow.
Surely pulling out now is saying “I was happy to perform alongside Israel when it didn’t look like they were going to win, but now that I think they’ll win I’m not happy”.
But the song doesn't deserve to win. It would only win due to politics and the situation, which he's protesting against anyway
if what’s being reported is true, let’s at least hope israel are kicked out too
If Joost pulls out there is a chance others will follow.
Apparently it’s not to do with Israel?! Wtf is happening, they should just be transparent.
The final preview starts at 8 I think, the crowd have been let in, so I guess we’ll see if Joost is there or they say anything.
Fan media reporting it’s absolutely nothing to do with Israel
Yeah they’re using the semi performance so he’s not disqualified at present.
I think it’s such a shambles to allow rumours to trickle down from fan media and not say something themselves!!
What a lovely delegation -
https://x.com/saltykoci/status/1789002287035109875?s=46&t=m49P1oUl0whVqtRjSczeTg
Huge boos in the arena as they announced that Joost won’t be performing!! They also didn’t show him in the flag parade, they used crowd shots instead
apparently the disqualification is because he punched a female production worker in which case I have little sympathy for him,
regardless the way the EBU are handling the whole situation this year remains a shitshow
This is sadly overshadowing everything.
I think if he’s not disqualified and performs tomorrow, The Netherlands wins. If he is disqualified I think Israel has this.
If he is not disqualified he better sue tbh
^^ I never felt The Netherlands would be a winner regardless, it’s a great fun pop song and certainly a Top 10 finish and a hit in Europe regardless of where it ends up.
With this drama I feel it’ll just split votes - The Netherlands getting the vote due to what’s happened and potentially taking away from others leading to an Israeli win.
I doubt enough of the voting public will have heard about this situation today to really particularly motivate more votes towards Netherlands if Joost does still take part.
I suppose if he's not allowed to perform in the final but they show his entry on video, they may have to give some sort of explanation.
Europapa is No.1 in my rankings and I'd be sad to lose it, but obviously if what is rumoured is true (and I don't know if it is) then it's difficult to just let it slide, it's pretty serious.
Regardless of whatever the incident is, I just think it’s so shit of them not to be transparent about any of it. Even disregarding the whole Israel saga etc, it’s just showing yet again that this year has been an utter shambles on the front of the EBU. If he’s under investigation to potentially be disqualified, they should say, and I know they still have to go ahead with the jury final but say nothing is found to be wrong, that could ruin Joost’s jury chances as it’s not going to have the same impact watching a video compared to being there for the performance. Idk it’s hard to comment without knowing what’s going on, but again it wouldn’t hurt them to be transparent. For the fans to be there for the jury final, and still not know what’s going on, is just a shambles.
If Israel had not been allowed to participate, none of this would have happened.
Censoring crowd noises, being all hush-hush about what happened here, banning of FLAGS. And then the AUDACITY to still call this a non-political contest. It always was and always will be one.
The Netherlands has been disqualified from the grand final
https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/release/statement-dutch-participation-eurovision-song-contest
Obviously don’t know any of the facts and only social media speculation but what a sorry state of affairs
I'm so fucking mad for them.
Obviously we do not know the details but it is ridiculous how this happens while the KAN delegation gets to act the way they do with threats on other artists and they're sitting pretty.
Swedish police have confirmed it wasn’t physical and didn’t have anything to do with another artist or delegation. Reading between the lines I think it’s a tense atmosphere that he’s at the centre of and he probably snapped. And we all know what the cause of the atmosphere is…..
For me, I don’t think anything verbal is worth disqualification if Israel are getting away what they’ve gotten away with, even if we ignore them being allowed to participate in the first place.
We certainly don't know the details so I won't be jumping into conclusions about Joost but I agree the confrontations from the Israeli delegation and media have largely gone unchecked.
obviously it’s the correct thing to do if true. but ‘intimidation’. exactly what the israeli delegation have been doing this whole time. wtf.
What a comedy.
It must be serious to be disqualified, I wonder did they debate whoever came 11th in the televote to take their place.
Also I wonder will it be mentioned tonight or will it be a case where there will be no reference made to it all.
It's a pitty they couldn't have given a wild card to let someone through in their place.
Update: The running order has been updated and now the running order number 05 will be blanked.
The Netherlands will still present their jury votes and the televoting still counts.
I suspect there be “technical difficulties”trying to reach the Dutch presenter in the vote reveal though
Smash hit incoming - https://kworb.net/itunes/artist/joost.html#google_vignette
i got in early and had a £15 stake for £510
I'm currently enjoying Paul Elstak's remix atm. Had he not removed Joost's verses, it would've been a perfect gabber song.
OK so likely Netherlands would have been just behind Israel on both jury and televotes and finishing 6th or 7th overall.
The real winner on charts anyway
Popular Dutch singer Nielson wrote a love letter to Joost last Friday:
I love Joost's new single <3
It's top five in The Netherlands with Europapa still in the top ten. What a huge star he is there.
It's basically a happy hardcore version of Right Here Waiting by Richard Marx, with late 90s style production and graphics (it even mocks up a 1999 style for the video).
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