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Posted by: RobBot 19th March 2024, 04:39 PM

So, we now have all 37 songs for our Eurovision 2024, so now discussion naturally turns to the running order the songs will be performed in. Last year, it was revealed on 22nd March which means we're likely to find out the running order very soon.

Here are the Semi splits:

Semi 1:

First Half
Croatia: Baby Lasagna - Rim Tim Tagi Dim
Cyprus: Silia Kapsis - Liar
Ireland: Bambie Thug - Doomsday Blue
Lithuania: Silvester Belt - Luktelk
Poland: Luna - The Tower
Serbia: Teya Dora - Ramonda
Ukraine: alyona alyona & Jerry Heil - Teresa & Maria

Second Half
Australia: Electric Fields - One Milkali (One Blood)
Azerbaijan: Fahree feat. Ilkin Dovlatov - Özünlə apar
Finland: Windows95man - No Rules!
Iceland: Hera Björk - Scared of Heights
Luxembourg: Tali - Fighter
Moldova: Natalia Barbu - In the Middle
Portugal: Iolanda - Grito
Slovenia: Raiven - Veronika

Semi 2:

First Half:
Albania: Besa - Titan
Armenia: Ladaniva - Jako
Austria: Kaleen - We Will Rave
Czechia: Aiko - Pedestal
Denmark: Saba - Sand
Greece: Marina Satti - Zari
Malta: Sarah Bonnici - Loop
Switzerland: Nemo - The Code

Second Half:
Belgium: Mustii - Before the Party's Over
Estonia: 5miinust and Puuluup - (Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi
Georgia: Nutsa Buzaladze - Firefighter
Israel: Eden Golan - Hurricane
Latvia: Dons - Hollow
Netherlands: Joost Klein - Europapa
Norway: Gåte - Ulveham
San Marino: Megara - 11:11

Make your predictions NOW / tell me how you'd order these semis?

Posted by: RobBot 19th March 2024, 05:03 PM

Semi 1:

01 Cyprus: Silia Kapsis - Liar
02 Ireland: Bambie Thug - Doomsday Blue
03 Ukraine: alyona alyona & Jerry Heil - Teresa & Maria
04 Lithuania: Silvester Belt - Luktelk
05 Poland: Luna - The Tower
06 Serbia: Teya Dora - Ramonda
07 Croatia: Baby Lasagna - Rim Tim Tagi Dim
08 Australia: Electric Fields - One Milkali (One Blood)
09 Iceland: Hera Björk - Scared of Heights
10 Portugal: Iolanda - Grito
11 Finland: Windows95man - No Rules!
12 Moldova: Natalia Barbu - In the Middle
13 Slovenia: Raiven - Veronika
14 Azerbaijan: Fahree feat. Ilkin Dovlatov - Özünlə apar
15 Luxembourg: Tali - Fighter

Finland feels like the natural closer here but I don't think they'll be awarded that treatment 2 years on the bounce. So I've stuck them in the 'Tattoo' slot, as they have a prop which may well take the longest to set up, from the staging we've seen so far. I've given the closing slot to Luxembourg instead, one of the only other uptempos and I think they'll want to throw them every possible chance of getting out of the semi so they stick around.

Cyprus feels like the natural "party starter without being too abrasive" opener. Picking the "death slot" was hard, but I've noticed in the last few years, they haven't handed it to a ballad in Semi 1, presumably wanting people to stick around without being switched off too quickly. Ireland feels disposable whilst still being a talking point, so I think that feels more fitting.

Semi 2:

01 Austria: Kaleen - We Will Rave
02 Czechia: Aiko - Pedestal
03 Denmark: Saba - Sand
04 Armenia: Ladaniva - Jako
05 Albania: Besa - Titan
06 Greece: Marina Satti - Zari
07 Malta: Sarah Bonnici - Loop
08 Switzerland: Nemo - The Code
09 Israel: Eden Golan - Hurricane
10 Estonia: 5miinust and Puuluup - (Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi
11 San Marino: Megara - 11:11
12 Latvia: Dons - Hollow
13 Georgia: Nutsa Buzaladze - Firefighter
14 Norway: Gåte - Ulveham
15 Netherlands: Joost Klein - Europapa
16 Belgium: Mustii - Before the Party's Over

This felt like a harder semi to predict, but We Will Rave feels like a Queen Of Kings type opener. The producers quite like a story being told in running order and I think this kicks off the semi with a statement of "we will party". A lot of uptempos to try and pace out here which isn't easy.

I've boxed Israel on as soon as possible to get that... over, which I'd imagine producers will want to do (and after a break, should they wish to boycott). San Marino in 11th, because, of course. And then, again, went for a message of a closer - we start with a rave and we end with... the party's over. Right after one of the most hyped party songs of the year.

Posted by: Colm 20th March 2024, 08:05 AM

Ireland, disposable?

Posted by: RobBot 20th March 2024, 02:00 PM

As in, they wouldn’t be fussed if the song didn’t make it, or less so than Luktelk or Rim Tim Tagi Dim which fill that “keeping the energy” brief that I mentioned.

Posted by: LexC 23rd March 2024, 10:11 AM

How I would arrange the running order:

Semi One

01 Cyprus: Silia Kapsis - Liar
02 Serbia: Teya Dora - Ramonda
03 Lithuania: Silvester Belt - Luktelk
04 Ukraine: alyona alyona & Jerry Heil - Teresa & Maria
05 Ireland: Bambia Thug - Doomsday Blue
06 Poland: Luna - The Tower
07 Croatia: Baby Lasagne - Rim Tim Tagi Dim
08 Azerbaijan: Fahree feat. Ilkin Dovlatov - Özünlə apar
09 Iceland: Hera Bjork - Scared of Heights
10 Moldova: Natalia Barbu - In The Middle
11 Finland: Windows95man - No Rules
12 Portugal: iolanda - Grito
13 Australia: Electric Fields - One Milkali (One Blood)
14 Slovenia: Raiven - Veronika
15 Luxembourg: Tali - Fighter

Semi Two

01 Malta: Sarah Bonnici - Loop
02 Czechia: Aiko - Pedestal
03 Albania: Besa - Titan
04 Greece: Marina Satti - Zari
05 Switzerland: Nemo - The Code
06 Denmark: SABA - Sand
07 Armenia: Ladaniva - Jako
08 Austria - We Will Rave
09 Israel: Eden Golan - Hurricane
10 Estonia: 5miinust and Puuluup - (Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi
11 San Marino: Megara - 11:11
12 Georgia: Nutsa - Fire Fighter
13 Belgium: Mustii - Before The Party's Over
14 Norway: Gate - Ulveheim
15 Latvia: Dons - Hollow
16 Netherlands: Joost Klein - Europapa

Posted by: Colm 23rd March 2024, 10:43 AM

The second semi final is the stronger one (fewer average songs) but we're going to lose more great songs from semi 1 because there's so many of them in the first half.

Posted by: Jerick 26th March 2024, 04:57 PM

The running order will be revealed live on the official eurovision YouTube channel in a couple of minutes.

Posted by: Jerick 26th March 2024, 05:33 PM

Semi-final 1 running order

1. 🇨🇾 Cyprus
2. 🇷🇸 Serbia
3. 🇱🇹 Lithuania
4. 🇮🇪 Ireland
🇬🇧 United Kingdom
5. 🇺🇦 Ukraine
6. 🇵🇱 Poland
7. 🇭🇷 Croatia
8. 🇮🇸 Iceland
🇩🇪 Germany
9. 🇸🇮 Slovenia
10. 🇫🇮 Finland
11. 🇲🇩 Moldova
🇸🇪 Sweden
12. 🇦🇿 Azerbaijan
13. 🇦🇺 Australia
14. 🇵🇹 Portugal
15. 🇱🇺 Luxembourg

Semi-final 2 running order

1. 🇲🇹 Malta
2. 🇦🇱 Albania
3. 🇬🇷 Greece
4. 🇨🇭 Switzerland
5. 🇨🇿 Czechia
🇫🇷 France
6. 🇦🇹 Austria
7. 🇩🇰 Denmark
8. 🇦🇲 Armenia
9. 🇱🇻 Latvia
🇪🇸 Spain
10. 🇸🇲 San Marino
11. 🇬🇪 Georgia
12. 🇧🇪 Belgium
13. 🇪🇪 Estonia
🇮🇹 Italy
14. 🇮🇱 Israel
15. 🇳🇴 Norway
16. 🇳🇱 Netherlands

Posted by: *Tim 26th March 2024, 06:34 PM

The big 5 performing is still very weird to me

Posted by: p a v 30th March 2024, 09:33 AM

QUOTE(LexC @ Mar 23 2024, 01:11 PM) *
How I would arrange the running order:

Semi One

01 Cyprus: Silia Kapsis - Liar
02 Serbia: Teya Dora - Ramonda
03 Lithuania: Silvester Belt - Luktelk
04 Ukraine: alyona alyona & Jerry Heil - Teresa & Maria
05 Ireland: Bambia Thug - Doomsday Blue
06 Poland: Luna - The Tower
07 Croatia: Baby Lasagne - Rim Tim Tagi Dim
08 Azerbaijan: Fahree feat. Ilkin Dovlatov - Özünlə apar
09 Iceland: Hera Bjork - Scared of Heights
10 Moldova: Natalia Barbu - In The Middle
11 Finland: Windows95man - No Rules
12 Portugal: iolanda - Grito
13 Australia: Electric Fields - One Milkali (One Blood)
14 Slovenia: Raiven - Veronika
15 Luxembourg: Tali - Fighter

Semi Two

01 Malta: Sarah Bonnici - Loop
02 Czechia: Aiko - Pedestal
03 Albania: Besa - Titan
04 Greece: Marina Satti - Zari
05 Switzerland: Nemo - The Code
06 Denmark: SABA - Sand
07 Armenia: Ladaniva - Jako
08 Austria - We Will Rave
09 Israel: Eden Golan - Hurricane
10 Estonia: 5miinust and Puuluup - (Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi
11 San Marino: Megara - 11:11
12 Georgia: Nutsa - Fire Fighter
13 Belgium: Mustii - Before The Party's Over
14 Norway: Gate - Ulveheim
15 Latvia: Dons - Hollow
16 Netherlands: Joost Klein - Europapa

She’s cracked

Posted by: LexC 7th May 2024, 10:33 PM

So the running order so far looks like this

First Half

Sweden (Opening)
UK
Germany
Lithuania
Ireland
Luxembourg

Producers Choice

Spain
Italy
Serbia
Portugal
Ukraine
Croatia

Second Half

France
Slovenia
Finland
Cyprus

Posted by: Padamic Tension 7th May 2024, 10:57 PM

I just hope Ireland aren't 2nd on.
I wish Sweden were on 2nd last year as it was an inevitable win and by going on 2nd would take away the 2nd position dread!

Posted by: LexC 9th May 2024, 09:50 PM

Final running order draws

First Half

Sweden (Opening)
UK
Germany
Lithuania
Ireland
Luxembourg
Greece

Producers Choice

Spain
Italy
Serbia
Portugal
Ukraine
Croatia
Switzerland
Armenia
Latvia
Georgia
Estonia
Israel
Netherlands

Second Half

France
Slovenia
Finland
Cyprus
Austria
Norway

Posted by: Juranamo 9th May 2024, 09:58 PM

I don't get the whole drawing thing... What's the point in putting some first and second half, and then half of them wherever they want? Might as well have them all wherever they choose...

Posted by: LexC 9th May 2024, 10:09 PM

If it were up to me then I'd run them like this (this might also be the "do everything to prevent an Israel win short of giving them the death slot" order)

01 Sweden
02 Latvia
03 Luxembourg
04 Germany
05 Greece
06 Israel
07 Lithuania
08 Spain
09 Estonia
10 Serbia
11 United Kingdom
12 Armenia
13 Ireland
14 Finland
15 Slovenia
16 Cyprus
17 Switzerland
18 Georgia
19 Portugal
20 Italy
21 Norway
22 Netherlands
23 Ukraine
24 Croatia
25 France
26 Austria

Posted by: ___∆___ 9th May 2024, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(LexC @ 9th May 2024, 11:09 PM) *
If it were up to me then I'd run them like this (this might also be the "do everything to prevent an Israel win short of giving them the death slot" order)


Except this year you can vote for a song as soon as it’s performed so maybe not 6th place for Israel!

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th May 2024, 12:46 AM

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Posted by: DoBelieveTheHype 10th May 2024, 05:23 AM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ 9th May 2024, 11:36 PM) *
Except this year you can vote for a song as soon as it’s performed so maybe not 6th place for Israel!


Really? That's a crap change.

Posted by: Sour Candy 10th May 2024, 05:34 AM

Running order doesn't matter at all in Israel's case. People who vote for doesn't probably even watch the contest.

Posted by: Crown_The_Witch. 10th May 2024, 10:07 AM

Ukraine in the dreaded 2nd place.

Posted by: calxyum 10th May 2024, 11:19 AM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ 9th May 2024, 11:36 PM) *
Except this year you can vote for a song as soon as it’s performed so maybe not 6th place for Israel!


Wouldn’t this create a disproportionate advantage in favour of countries who perform earlier though? Obviously everyone gets the same amount of votes, but you might be inclined to use them on an earlier act that you enjoyed and subsequently not vote for the later acts that were also good

Posted by: Liam sota 10th May 2024, 11:22 AM

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/eurovision/eurovision-2024-how-to-vote-b2542733.html#

I'm baffled by this

specifically this “ As of 2024, viewers watching around the world can now vote for their favourite songs for 24 hours before each Semi-Final and the Grand Final.

The change was initially introduced last year, with people from countries outside the contest being allowed to vote online and on the app for both the semi-finals and final.”

Posted by: ElectroBoy 10th May 2024, 11:36 AM

QUOTE(Liam sota @ 10th May 2024, 12:22 PM) *
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/eurovision/eurovision-2024-how-to-vote-b2542733.html#

I'm baffled by this

specifically this “ As of 2024, viewers watching around the world can now vote for their favourite songs for 24 hours before each Semi-Final and the Grand Final.

The change was initially introduced last year, with people from countries outside the contest being allowed to vote online and on the app for both the semi-finals and final.”


You missed the next line, which sort of explains it

QUOTE
Their votes will be converted into points that have the same weight as one participating country.

Other changes this year see voting at the Grand Final open just before the first song begins, and will remain open throughout the performances and for up to 40 minutes after the final song is performed.


Just means there's a 'rest of the world' vote which is then considered a country in itself.

Posted by: Smint 10th May 2024, 11:40 AM

QUOTE(calxyum @ 10th May 2024, 12:19 PM) *
Wouldn’t this create a disproportionate advantage in favour of countries who perform earlier though? Obviously everyone gets the same amount of votes, but you might be inclined to use them on an earlier act that you enjoyed and subsequently not vote for the later acts that were also good


I would have thought that. So country who performs 1st has hours more voting time than country who performs last.

Posted by: Liam sota 10th May 2024, 11:43 AM

QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ 10th May 2024, 12:36 PM) *
You missed the next line, which sort of explains it
Just means there's a 'rest of the world' vote which is then considered a country in itself.


Makes more sense

Posted by: Juranamo 10th May 2024, 02:50 PM

QUOTE(Smint @ 10th May 2024, 12:40 PM) *
I would have thought that. So country who performs 1st has hours more voting time than country who performs last.

Yeah: this is an awful change.

Posted by: SemiDongContest 10th May 2024, 02:54 PM

QUOTE(calxyum @ 10th May 2024, 12:19 PM) *
Wouldn’t this create a disproportionate advantage in favour of countries who perform earlier though? Obviously everyone gets the same amount of votes, but you might be inclined to use them on an earlier act that you enjoyed and subsequently not vote for the later acts that were also good


Even bloody X Factoer doesn't let tou vote till after the end!!

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th May 2024, 02:58 PM

QUOTE(calxyum @ 10th May 2024, 12:19 PM) *
Wouldn’t this create a disproportionate advantage in favour of countries who perform earlier though? Obviously everyone gets the same amount of votes, but you might be inclined to use them on an earlier act that you enjoyed and subsequently not vote for the later acts that were also good


Exactly that - hence why Sweden chose to open the show.

Posted by: SemiDongContest 10th May 2024, 02:59 PM

If Sweden wanted to win again, kt would have sent Loreen though

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th May 2024, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(SemiDongContest @ 10th May 2024, 03:59 PM) *
If Sweden wanted to win again, kt would have sent Loreen though


Except she had no interest to enter again and is busy with her pop up shop in Malmo for the Eurovision Gayz

https://eurovoix.com/2024/05/09/🇸🇪-eurovision-2024-loreen-announces-pop-up-store-in-malmo/

Posted by: The Dong Contest 10th May 2024, 03:09 PM

Also UK next to Ireland again!! Goinf to be completely overshadowed ... AGAIN!!

Posted by: witchsting 10th May 2024, 03:10 PM

QUOTE(The Dong Contest @ 10th May 2024, 04:09 PM) *
Also UK next to Ireland again!! Goinf to be completely overshadowed ... AGAIN!!

Good for Ireland happy.gif

Posted by: J❄️hq 10th May 2024, 09:56 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ 10th May 2024, 03:58 PM) *
Exactly that - hence why Sweden chose to open the show.


Sweden's position in the running order was drawn at random

Both 2010 and 2011 had voting open from the start, so I don't think it's that much of a big deal. At least this year it's only for the final, when we have already seen all the performances by now.

Posted by: LexC 10th May 2024, 10:18 PM

IIRC in 2010 & 2011 the vast majority of viewers still waited until after all the songs had been performed before they voted.

Posted by: Sour Candy 11th May 2024, 06:47 AM

There is a massive propaganda campaign for Israel on X/Twitter. I guess Russia is behind this because some of them are what we call here as "Putin's trolls" (and living next to Russia we know who those are). The running order will not have anything to do with the number of votes Israel will get.

Posted by: Liam sota 11th May 2024, 06:58 AM

Lazy to blame Russia, it's the usual counter culture bores, whatever people protest about they go against it as they think that's enlightening for some reason. Seen a lot of people say they never watch but they re going to vote Israel

Posted by: Sour Candy 11th May 2024, 07:06 AM

Regardless, the winner of the televote will be decided by people who don't watch the contest, and it's the saddest thing ever.

Posted by: Smint 11th May 2024, 07:39 AM

Zionist lobby obviously as well - like how Facebook/YouTube was spammed with pro invasion propaganda for months.

This will be Israel's equivalent of Berlin 1936 Olympics. Well next year will be as well if/when they win but hopefully amd very sadly it might not take place if countries start boycotting

Posted by: Liаm 11th May 2024, 08:30 AM

The rest of the world vote was due to open 24 hours prior to the show but hasn’t, so I am assuming Joost won’t be part of the final tonight otherwise they would let people vote and include Europapa surely. The incident being investigated by the Swedish police now, so I assume it was some kind of physical altercation at the least.

I’m not going to defend violence, but unless he beat the living daylights out of someone unprovoked, I struggle to see why it should be so drastic. I mean… it’s a tense situation and if a reporter had hounded him about Israel or something, after the press conference, I could see why he might snap and something might happen. Everyone has said how the atmosphere is very tense, and Joost was kind of a main character in the press conference drama about Israel, so I could see how it could escalate into something. But obviously that’s all speculative when we don’t know what happened.

I understand if it’s an ongoing investigation, they can’t say what’s going on but they should at least make a statement before the show. Just simply say that Joost won’t be part of the final due to an ongoing issue!

QUOTE(Smint @ 11th May 2024, 08:39 AM) *
Zionist lobby obviously as well - like how Facebook/YouTube was spammed with pro invasion propaganda for months.

This will be Israel's equivalent of Berlin 1936 Olympics. Well next year will be as well if/when they win but hopefully amd very sadly it might not take place if countries start boycotting

None of the broadcasters have withdrawn or really spoken out (other than Belgium on the semi 2 broadcast) about Israel, I suppose there’s contract/potential fine issues (not that’s that’s an excuse for morals) though compared to them just not joining the next season. Even if israel doesn’t win I wonder if we will see countries withdraw due to the absolute shit show this year has been! If they do win I expect a fair few countries to just not renew participation.

Posted by: ___∆___ 11th May 2024, 08:41 AM

QUOTE(Liаm @ 11th May 2024, 09:30 AM) *
I understand if it’s an ongoing investigation, they can’t say what’s going on but they should at least make a statement before the show.
None of the broadcasters have withdrawn or really spoken out (other than Belgium on the semi 2 broadcast) about Israel, I suppose there’s contract/potential fine issues (not that’s that’s an excuse for morals) though compared to them just not joining the next season. Even if israel doesn’t win I wonder if we will see countries withdraw due to the absolute shit show this year has been! If they do win I expect a fair few countries to just not renew participation.


Honestly this - I keep thinking that it’s such a political mess this year I think it will encourage withdrawal, also in the future it might make artists think twice about participating?

Like all of us, I’m a total ESC stan, it’s the biggest night of the year and I’ve been 4 times and it’s always been incredible yet this year I’m hardly looking forward to tonight, I’ve just got a feeling of dread at the outcome.

Posted by: Crown_The_Witch. 11th May 2024, 08:58 AM

I am disappointed with how its all been handled and something feels really off with how the EBU have approached who whole Israel situation and its completly overshadowing the contest.
I was initially super excited especially with the fact Ireland qualified after so many years of DNQ but with how things are now I can't help but feel this years contest could leave a lasting effect on how people feel about the competition that will do damage.
The political connection to eurovision is always speculated which now this mess seems to confirm it for many.

Posted by: Liаm 11th May 2024, 09:10 AM

That’s what’s sad too, it’s a really good year songs wise and countries like Georgia, Ireland and Latvia have ended long NQ streaks so the fans from those countries should be happy and excited.

Even if we disregard Israel which has been a cloud over the whole season, even just the way this Joost saga is being handled shows no regard for the fans. People have come from all over the world for this, and Eurovision is nothing without the fans. This isn’t what Eurovision has been in the past or anywhere near what it should be.

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