They’ve TaPped out 
Any idea what the replacement will be?
It better not be us going back to the public choosing from a bunch of average/below average songs again…..
This is definitely not news I wanted 
Already makes me concerned about who/what we'll end up with as an entry next year.
Not totally surprising though if the rumour is true that we ended up with Mae more because "she was available" than anything else. I hope the BBC manage to get another label/management company on board who are passionate and able to look back at Sam's success more than Mae's result.
Not surprised at all. They had Ellie and Calvin and chose ... Mae Muller, the worst of the lot, as she can't sing live 
Massively bad judgement. Of course the BBC would say no to them after the embarrassment of THAT entry and performqnce when rhe BBC WAS HOSTING, instead of ending the competition with MIRACLE, which was also so thematically ON POINT for a UK hosted competition, plus sayin Ukraine will get rhrough the war and it'll be like a miracle, after most thought Russia would win in days!
Already makes me concerned about who/what we'll end up with as an entry next year.
Where'd you hear that rumour?!
That being said Mae Muller's song was a huge chart success so it's not a complete failure after all. TaP will be a hard act to follow and I hope the next label will share the same passion, if BBC decides to collab with one again.
oof
there is of course potential for another label to step in with a similar remit but until we hear anything like that everyone's going to be panic stations imagining the x factor finalists national final from hell
Ugh how annoying that it looks to be back to what it was. Feared this would happen though.
I mean it had the highest peak since 2007 aside from Space Man and a top 10 with a chart run since release week, so quite safe to say a huge success no? I won't consider the song a big misfire. It's just the live that fell apart unforch
I think it’s really important to recognise the positives and build on them as well as assess what wasn’t right.
It was a good current pop song - everyone in the arena was singing along and it was a hit in the Euroclub etc. You’d hear it out and about in shops even. Top 10 in the chart is great even if a couple of other countries’ songs did better.
It was not a good overall competition package, but let’s remember all the years when every aspect has been embarrassing; when not even the UK could really get behind its own song.
The other point is that even when you have the right approach you won’t do well every year. And also that being an auto qualifier is a double edged sword as it makes you much more likely to end up at the bottom of the final table.
There are elements that weren’t right that need to be addressed in future but we shouldn’t just think we’re back to square 1.
hope that hasn't put her off trying again because I'd love to see her there next year.That is devastating!
Hope that this year is not a shit show if were not with TAP anymore
She kept teasing it, as she was annoyed that she didn't get it. That's why she released her Eurovision 3 mins single edit the same week Mae was announced.
They had three choices - well, four with Birdy - Calvin and Ellie, Mae or Rina, and they went with Mae. Unbelievably bad judgement. Any of the other three would have done better, esp with thr last slot. Ellie woulda won, Rina woulda come top 3.
Shame she was rejected in this way I do fear for the UK now.
Although ... maybe it is for the best, as Rina wouldn't have won vs Loreen and that drunken nursery rhyme that nobody listened to after that one drunken night - check its abysmal streams. Maybe she can win this year instead... Gping UK - Sweden - UK isn't bad at all. Of course, overlooking an OBVIOUS WINNER in Calvin and Elvie is inexcusable as always.
From the interview of hers, it looks more like she and her team took too long to decide, and she's wound up grateful because she was so busy with John Wick.
So, I don't think it'd necessarily put her off for future. I just wonder if her star has grown a little since the start of the year, what with the Glastonbury stuff, so this year might have been the only feasible year or nothing.
Hopefully they will be CLAMOURING for her after Glastonbury and will ask again.
I still think it's worse that they chose Mae over Calvin and Ellie though at the last minute!!!
If Rina was up for it and this was true, I really wouldn’t be surprised if the BBC got cold feet and put a stop to having a contender for the win as there’s no way they would want to host two years in a row.
That is IF they have a winner-contending song though
The Brexit lot would be LIVID if we hosted a pro Europe event twice and spent so much on it two years runnin.
Mae was awful , lets hope that next year we get a person who can actually sing and has a decent song.
Luke Spiller of The Struts has revealed his interest in representing the UK in his Instagram story today.
We don't want Spulñer!!! He stole VB's no.1. PASS!!
Oh God... here we go again...
The BBC press announcement and Lee Smithurst's comments strongly suggest that the UK 2024 Eurovision entry was internally selected in the summer after receiving a lot of interest.
The tabloids are reporting that Olly Alexander is 'in advanced talks' to represent the UK next year.
As much as I love Olly/Years and Years I’m not 100% sure about that. I don’t rate him as the strongest live singer
Just confirmed out of nowhere on Strictly!!
Confirmed on Strictly; Olly representing UK at Eurovision next year
That sounds very promising!
Interesting reveal time/place but saves the rumour mill from going into overdrive.
Well he's a competent live performer with a lot of charisma, so it all rests on how good the song is!
Yasssss
That was unexpectedly early for the BBC to drop this
Really excited by this, I think he'll deliver! Seems like a lot of countries are going early this year??
One of the slides on his Instagram announcement is a photo of him with Danny L Harle (who produced Houdini for Dua and pretty much everything Caroline Polachek does) so consider me hyped if they're working together!
Ooh an early reveal. Hopefully the song is great!
Oh this is exciting! I find Olly/Years & Years hit and miss but when it hits I really get into it (Shine, Eyes Shut, King, If You’re Over Me) really intrigued!
what no random rumours for months?
That's a pretty good get, I swear he's been one of those 'well why can't they do it, they'd wipe the competition' names for a little while now. The early reveal does sound like they have a plan, or at least are caring to make sure we don't slip back into uselessness now the contest has had its profile boosted here. I'm encouraged.
Two minds... I'm glad we finally have a household name representing us. On the other hand, I really haven't been fussed by any of his solo stuff to date...
Will see how this goes!
I guess they decided to reveal SUPER EARLY, aftee the Mae disaster, and us all wanting Ellie and getting ... yuge flop instead.
No Rina? No ellie? He's gonna flop
My jaw is still on the floor from that Strictly reveal, I thought his news was going to be a tour or something as I haven’t paid rumours much attention this year an exciting name for sure!
Danny L Harle is a GENIUS, this could potentially be great.
He can sing and is a charismatic performer. Already an improvement on 2023 before we’ve even heard the song. Give us a banger like Sweet Talker or Starstruck please Olly 🤞
What an incredible reveal. We always get stuff like this leaked so the fact it wasn't is pretty amazing!
Obviously delighted and I can't believe I'm already getting hyped up for Eurovision 2024 and we haven't even had Christmas yet
EDIT: Oh, the tabloids were reporting on it?! Good job I didn't pick up on that then!
I’m a little disappointed… he’s not great vocally, live.
I guess it’ll have to be a great track, but I’m expecting it to be an overproduced, club track. He never lived up to the promise of his first 2 tracks.
Zzzz
Random lmao. He’s hit or miss imo, but if he pulls out something like starstruck it could do alright! I do hope we get rina one year though she would smash it. Interested to hear the song, I reckon it’ll be some 80s sounds by dark pop dance tune
This has to be the earliest we've got a UK artist announcement for a very long time? I'm sure we're normally one of the last to announce!
Good to have a relatively contemporary big name for once (still a few years past his peak but close enough) and I'm cautiously optimistic it could be a good song with Danny L Harle being involved - I have always found Years & Years quite hit or miss though so I'm not holding my breath too much. Hopefully at least better than our last entry though which wouldn't be too hard 
Well that's not a reveal I was expecting! That early reveal suggests there's a clear plan though and I think that's a really good name that will be recognisable in Europe but not in a legacy act sort of way, promising!
*All* of their stuff on Spotify is now credited to “Olly Alexander (Years & Years)”. Including ‘Communion’!
That’s a bit rubbish imo, I’m not a fan of that revisionism.
that looks awful, if they must insist on retroactively crediting Olly under his own name they could at least have made it a separate tag lol.
Yeah, not a fan of this change at all. I kind of it though.
I guess we will have an idea of how he could do when we hear the song/hear what he sounds like live singing it
Wait, Olly Alexander and Danny L Harle working together!? Banger incoming *.*
I'm 100% on board. Bloody yes!
I’m mostly excited for this, with a touch of worry based on his often shaky live vocals.
Danny L Harle’s inclusion on the other hand? VERY excited by that as he’s someone I would never expect to attach his name to Eurovision and feels like a huge stamp of serious intention to provide something current and competitive.
Who is Danny??
I've seen him live twice and he's an absolutely SMASHING live performer.
I'm so excited to see what he'll come up with for this!
He's also currently a pretty big name producer in the pop world.
Also the absolute banger 1UL from 2017, an all-time fave of mine.
Hope it’s gonna be an absolute banger, very happy with him
being our representative
Well it’s certainly got promise… would be great if Eurovision shook off the stigma and began to attract genuine UK acts
The problem is not ONE act from Eurovision is big here. The obly one who MIGHR be classed as big, but past it, is Blue, but that's due to their Mighty Hoopla-esque nostalgia tours.
I hope it goes well for him, im not convinced he will do brilliantly, but i think he will give it its all on stage
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc-eurovision-olly-alexander-gaza-israel-genocide-b1128407.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1703150208-1
FFS, our McCarthy-ist media is at it again with our Eurovision entrants.
what an entirely reasonable letter for them to get bent out of shape over too.
I don't understand why they keep attacking our entries like thst over their politics? Brexshit culture war still?
Danny L Harle?! Omfgggg I am SAT, his production is always amazing.
The Daily Mail keep making me want to root for our Eurovision artists more 
Jfc! They’re really abhorrent!
Also, gay marriage isn’t even legal in Israel 
!!!! ICONIC
There’s a clip on Ollie’s insta.. sounds okay!
I like the sound of it, kind of feels like a cross between It's A Sin and Not A Sinner, Nor A Saint but with some trance influenced production, and discordant in places (which suits the title Dizzy).
Very interested to hear the whole thing.
lemme link the thing x
Totally dated Sounds like a mid tier Eurovision song from thr early 2000s 
Obviously it’s just a clip but I think people are overhyping this a bit, if that’s the chorus I don’t hear winner at all but perhaps the full thing will bring more winner vibes.
Sounds right hand table - too dated - maybe even one of thr last places.
It doesn't really sound like a winner or a bottom five? Just a solid low top ten maybe. I'm sure the juries will back it quite well as it clearly sounds like a well produced song with a good melody and will almost certainly be staged well.
It’s a shame he can’t promote it properly on TikTok with the whole Universal thing going on.
It's... a 20 second clip and we don't even know where abouts in the song it is, what precedes it or what follows it. I don't think we can begin to predict where it finishes yet
Sounds promising though! Didn't gag me but gave me a clue as to the whole vibe, and my first take was that it sounds like something that inspires a light show of a staging which always feels impressive.
It sounds like it has anthemic potential, but I definitely need the full thing.
Don't worry!! When Ariana starts sellin perfume, we can hire her to do our Eurovision entry!
As expected this has been majorly overhyped. Last place here we come!
. Even our Mae Muller didn't get the silver spoon
The clip sounds decent, dont see it bothering the left handside of the score board based on the clip but hopefully it does ok for him.
This sounds ok, definitely not winner material as per those 20 seconds. Hope he does well though.
How are you all coming to such exaggerated conclusions from a teaser 😭😭
I never left! I swear people get more histrionic with each year though, especially with the UK!
Spain's entry is even worse though, so they'll be bottom
That's not very mother of you x
It sounds good from the clip, but hard to say how good it’ll be until
hearing the full thing, wish it was released a bit sooner, 1 March seems so far away !
I never left! I swear people get more histrionic with each year though, especially with the UK!This thread is full of madness
Sounding quite promising from the snippet!
The snippet sounds promising 
This is out to stream and download now, I really like it as a pop song, very well produced, catchy. Interesting little spoken bit.
Feels like a big radio hit and probably chart hit. I still think it sounds very PSB with Danny L Harle production - not a bad thing at all.
Not sure on its Eurovision chances - perhaps a decent jury vote and ok televote. Maybe low top 10 to high top 15?? Or is that pessimistic.
Edit: Or optimistic going by our usual form 
Love the full version - very instant and memorable for me!
Not sure on this as a Eurovision hit... But I'm never the best judge in that respect. I like it though!
Preferred 'I Wrote A Song' on first listen. But can see this being a euphoric moment, and I'm sure Olly will perform the shit out of it!
It’s not going to win but again it’s an entry we can be very proud of
It’s better than last year - still don’t think it will get us on the left hand side of the leaderboard though!
This is actually very very strong! Hypnotic production, earwormy chorus, keeps you engaged from start to finish..the whole thing flows so seamlessly too.
Spoken bit *.*
I don't hate it. The production is decent, there's a good tune in there (although hugely unoriginal). My issue is Olly, he's like marmite - people either respond to him or he turns them off. I hope it does well, but I don't think it'll win or come close.
Still, anything is better than last year's total car crash!
Very good entry, but it’s such a strong year. Just inside my top 10 so far, absolutely love the production! I think this could and will be a hit in the charts, but I don’t see it as a Eurovision smash. I think it’s a song people will like widely but it won’t be a big favourite to get those points on a wide scale. Either way, sending something by a successful artist that is representative of the UK industry and a song that will most likely be a chart bit is the right way for us to go about Eurovision, even if it did come 22nd we are showing off our music industry with an entry we can proud of and that needs to continue,
I like it. The problems are, as always, firstly standing out in a packed final when you haven’t had a chance to shine in the semis, and secondly that the public will consider anything outside the Top 10 as a flop (even though20th is actually respectable when you’re up against songs that have come through a semi). I don’t see it as something that will really cut through on the night and be in people’s minds when they come to vote.
I've seen comparisons so far to It's A Sin, Deeper Shade of Blue, and the speaking bit to Adam Rickitt's I Believe Again!
The bassline production in parts also reminds me so much of the Who Wants To Be A Millionaire music
I think it's a brilliant studio track, the production is immaculate. I don't see any way juries will ignore this. The public I'm less sure about as there are a LOT of songs angling for televoting points.
I like the video a lot! I keep remembering that it's only a few years ago we were being represented by songs like Bigger Than Us, it's been such a huge step up since in that respect.
Its just ok for me. I don't like the middle 8 either. It's not strikingly better than the last UK entry either, though one would hope Olly will be able to perform it a bit better than whatever Mae thought that was last year.
Wow, this is pretty instant for me, sounds like a winner to me, but I need to see a live performance of the track, it might be featured on The One show tonight on BBC1.
Its a massive step up from last year.
I went - errr.... Pet Shop Boys I think it’s great on first listen, it doesn’t scream winner but certainly seems like a left side of the board if they can get staging and vocals spot on
Slightly tangential rambling but one thing I’ve been thinking about is that we have a big issue with branding ourselves at Eurovision. It’s easy for the Italians - they hardly have to try and when they come on you know it’s the Italian entry, and I think that being distinct gives them a big advantage. How do you sell yourself as the UK when you’ve been responsible for a lot of the best known pop music in history and most other countries are already singing in your language? That plus the fact you now have a reputation for being a big 5 country who doesn’t really try. I think we need to come up with some sort of vision of what the UK in 2020s Eurovision is wanting to be or say.
I have to say I really like the song and video and have listened to it multiple times - it’s really instant for me, how it will fare at ESC I don’t know, I expect him to really bring it with the stage production and performance and give it his all.
I can’t help thinking this is such a risk for him though, I appreciate he wants to launch himself as ‘Olly’ but if he comes 17th it could backfire, he’s past his peak career however did manage Too 40 singles and a #1 album in the UK with his last release so not as if he’s entering off the back off being dropped and a flop album.
I hope it goes well for him but I’m here for us sending current artists with good songs like this.
I read the BBC Eurovision team had a few different songs from Olly and other artists I think and this is the one that everybody thought was fantastic. I think that says more about the calibre of the other entries and not so much how great this song is. I mean it’s a decent enough song but you don’t listen to it and think wow this is massive but it’s a perfectly good commercial radio song. If this was Olly’s lead single without the Eurovision tag it would pass by relatively unnoticed. I do think Olly will give a fantastic performance though and the staging should be decent so that will really help it. The last chorus needs a bit more oomph as well.
Yeah, I can't help but think a final crescendo or even a key change towards the end might elevate it even further but I am absolutely loving this. The chorus is really sticking in my head.
I've seen him live twice and know he can pull a fantastic performance out of the bag, so hopefully he will on the night!
THAT CHORUS IS INSANELY CATCHY! The production is incredible (surely one of the best produced songs we’ve ever sent??)
However, I do agree about having that final “big” euphoric moment in the final chorus is what is needed to elevate this from a 9 to a 10… I love this!
I enjoy this song after a couple of listen, but I don't like the church bell melody. It reminds me of something, I don't know what though!
Right side of thr table, prob bottom 5.
#1 on iTunes - love seeing the UK actually getting behind our entries for the past few years.
Imagine if the BBC had seen sense and actuslly sent Miracles last year!!! I rrally thibk it woulda won
I rrally thibk it woulda wonThe chorus is decent, really don't like the opening verse, there is something about the song though that for me doesn't work and I won't be surprised if dizzy only does slightly better than last years entry.
I like this much more than I usually like one of his tracks tbh. His voice usually irritates me
This is fairly respectable and like last year a fairly contemporary track that doesn’t sound out of place in our charts. Im happy that we’re continuing down that path. It’ll pay off in the long run
I so hear the Deeper Shade of Blue Rich!!!!!!
This feels like another weak entry to me. It sounds like It’s a Sin, it doesn’t go anywhere and the speaking bit ruins it completely and doubt it’ll sound good live. Bottom 7 idsay.
It’s ok but don’t think it’s a winning entry and really think we have gone a step backwards since Sam ryders spaceman.
Olly is performing on Saturday Night Takeaway next week.
I said I could feel winning vibes from Space Man days into it. A day into Müller Lite on Vocals, I said bottom 5. This dong just won't do it, BUT at least we have someone who wants to do Eurovision? BUT!!! the goodwill Sam created won't last forever. Two flops might kill ogf all momentum again
Live version -
Plus he’s also on The One Show and Saturday Night Takeway too.
I really love this. I’m really surprised by how taken to it I am tbh. I find Y&Y hit and miss and donmt really care for them usually, but there’s something about this that I find quite addicting.
Liking this on first listen, definitely very It's a Sin, but it's got some great synth production that sounds quite 90s. I do unfortunately think it's missing that really powerful chorus or crescendo that makes it stand out like Spaceman though which could possibly risk it blending it in, but a big improvement on last year so hopefully a better result x
Also think 'Dizzy' is great. Shame it didn't make it in to the top 40 today but should do in May anyway. Hopefully does okay in Eurovision. Wouldn't deserve last place or bottom 5!
Ya it was fairly close to making it aswell but ended up at 42 but it will easily go top 40 in a few weeks time.
#42 isn't bad for first week really - Mae debuted higher but she came off the back of Sam Ryder's huge success the previous year so was naturally more hype
‘Saturday Night Takeaway’ performance -
The SNT performance sold the song a bit more to me.
The Big 5 countries and host (Sweden) will perform in the semis this year 
I’ve always thought there was a disadvantage to the Big 5 not being in the semis so welcome this change.
Just heard the song and I think this is radio-friendly and the production is good. However, the chorus melody feels very flat and I don't find it memorable at all. I much prefer last year's entry tbh. I think this song will depend on the staging and vocals on the night, so hope they deliver! It's a solid 6/10 for me.
Apparently former Y&Y member Emre liked a comment someone put on that Instagram about the fact they should’ve stayed together and sorted out any differences.
I imagine he's not too happy at all his music being billed as "Olly Alexander (Years & Years)" on streaming platforms...
EDIT: I found the post, announcing that him & Mikey are making new music together.
^^ I remember when the spilt happened and the posts the band members made, it all seemed like a bit of a surprise to them that the band had come to an end.
In terms of Olly’s streaming billing I’m sure he appreciates it’s a need, rather than starting off as a solo artist with 0 monthly listeners.
Olly will be on Kelly Clarksons show TODAY!
In my opinion, this is a really big year for the UK in terms of their fortunes. If Olly finishes really low then what next? Would officially confirm that Sam Ryder was a fluke although we didn't take it seriously with Mae Muller due to the expense in hosting again had she won.
We’ll do well when we send the right song and act. I don’t think Olly is that - it’s not going to be an embarrassing performance but I doubt it’s going to excite many people either. I think we could be right at the foot of the table again, but I’m happy to be proved wrong - and I’ll enjoy the contest in any case.
It'd be nice if you could for once provide a source to back up this supposed theory behind 'Miracle' being intended for Eurovision, seeing as you've been endlessly banging on about it for well over a year now.
A pretty extensive search on Google has returned nothing credible to corroborate it, and Calvin himself shut down the suggestion on X (formerly known as Twitter) very early on.
I think what this may well have on its side, which Mae NEVER had, was the jury appeal. There's quite a lot of ~quirky~ entries this year, and while Olly himself could be described as that to an extent, I think this will be a well performed, well sung, slick and polished, radio-friendly pop song.
He has reasonable name power, the song is really good, and Olly's worst performance is a trillion times better than what Mae served last year! I just don't think it's instant enough to be a smash. I'm expecting mid-low table, but who knows. The closest other song to this is probably Unforgettable, and that's a stretch!
I really would love Olly to get a Top 10 out of it, I just don't see it (despite it being my second favourite entry!)
I am intrigued to see how this does now. I think the song is just OK. I'm still nervous about his live vocals but he can entertain.
Good to see he racked up a decent amount of points on the OGAE poll, which hopefully suggests he won't be near the bottom.
Its not a bad song but i cant see it doing any more than low top 20 on the night.
Hope it doesn't end up extremely low. Deserves to be at least top 20 in the results.
And people thought Irelands staging was good. This looks epic
Wow! Looks great!
Also: CD (£3.99), 7" (£12.99), and USB Spinner (£9.99) available to pre-order. Released next Friday!
Pretty sure this will be top 10.
The staging looks very good from the rehearsals which definitely elevates the song but I think the over campness of the male dancers slightly distracts from it and mixed dancers might have worked better.
I think this year it could be a bit like 2011 with Olly doing the same or maybe slightly better than Blue and Ireland getting a similar result to Jedward. I think actually the past couple of years have been similar to 2009 with Sam doing well like Jade then again similar to 2010 where they tried the same way of getting an act but didn’t go to plan. Then getting a known artist the following year like 2011. I just hope the BBC don’t give up and send someone like Engelbert next year.
Who would be the most random swerve for 2025? Cliff again? Lol
I think it's time to go rock! They'd never do it, but a band like Nothing But Thieves would be amazing.
I've said this a few years in a row now and I'll say it again, next year our song should not be in English! Give us a Welsh-language rock song or a Gaelic folk banger à la Shum/Fulenn.
Defo excited with our staging this year, Olly's done the kind of grotty public bathroom thing at Glastonbury before and it ate so I have high hopes. At least in the last few years the BBC have finally worked out how to make an act look interesting.
The first artist that pops up in my mind which could fit the Welsh bill well is Gwenno
I don't think they've released anything in the Welsh language, but Skindred would be fantastic for Eurovision. And I reckon they're the sort of band who would be up for it too - they don't take themselves too seriously.
Oh I might have confused Welsh with Cornish then
Obsessed with the staging - and love it or hate it, it has got people talking about the performance and song.
After years of sending oversized trumpets via James Newman or glow in the dark outfits via ElectroVelvet then I’m totally here for it this year and the continued renewed interest from the BBC.
ElectroVeñlñet was a great song!
It was a cute little bop. But it was, realistically, never going to smash in any chart or contest (in any reality/parallel universe 😂)
Well, it was great to see it back in the charts this year thanks to Meghan Trainor & T-Pain under the name 'Been Like This'
Why did I started to sing Here I Go Again by E-Type when hearing this?
The song is growing on me especially the chorus.
I like Dizzy but I really hope there is a better vocal moment at the end. It irrationally annoys me that in the part after the spoken word middle 8 there isn't a vocal belt bc Olly is capable of one.
Can’t wait to finally see the whole performance of the song/staging tonight and the updated version of the song which apparently has added in a better build up at the start and high note finish.
There’s 7 inch vinyls and cd singles up for sale… even though I’m not really a fan of the song I’ve been trying to get as many cd/cassette singles as possible this year, and ivf got the last couple of uk entries so will probably grab one! Hopefully the song starts to grow on me because I should like it, but something about it just falls flat
https://store.ollyalexander.co.uk/
There’s the link. CDs are £4, vinyls £13 and there’s a usb that is also a tabletop spinner toy! Haven’t checked shipping but there they are!
If anyone want a sneak peak at the full performance the full jury show can be found https://m.vk.com/video-145118820_456239697
The staging concept is great. Possibly the best we’ve had. However the song is awful and Olly can’t keep his breath and therefore his vocals are appalling
Ireland has got to win!! UK sounds rubbish, but looks good
Yeah the vocal are weak, but the staging, OMG!
We’ll do brilliantly in the Eurovision Staging Contest when it next comes round then. 
Imagine we had someone who could sing. We would be right up there but the vocals are awful
https://youtu.be/kiIhvA2Ozzk?
I really hope the vocals are better than that on Saturday.
I thought the vocals were good? It’s like everyone expects the UK to be pin point perfect every year.
Yeah his vocals weren’t great but not car crash either. On the plus side the choreography and staging was on point! I just hope he can finish a respectable top 10.
Not the biggest increase, prior to the semis it was only charting in the UK -
Apple Music
#48 Lithuania
#110 Finland
#143 Norway
#150 Sweden
#163 United Kingdom
iTunes
#10 United Kingdom
#42 Austria
#67 United Kingdom
#123 Spain
#159 Netherlands
#160 Belgium
I don’t think his vocals were bad. I’ve heard him sound a lot worse live
I wasn’t bowled over by the staging but can see why people are raving about it
How soon before the contest in the prior two years were Sam Ryder and Mae Muller added to Hot Hits UK?
If it's NMF, no as both Mae and Olly appeared on the playlist on the week their songs were released
Hot Hits UK is the one I'm referring to
I did a bit of digging and last year Mae was actually added on the 15th, which was the Monday after the contest took place!
I love our entry so much this year. I've really taken to it and I am impressed with our performance too. Olly has never been the best live vocalist, but I've definitely heard worse.
Performance Version has been released -
I’m afraid I didn’t really enjoy the SF1 performance of this at all. Yeah the staging’s nice but that doesn’t make up for everything else.
Yeah he did sound rather out of breath to me mainly at the start but he did pick up vocally towards the end. Staging is great though and hope Olly can still avoid the bottom several at the very least.
Based on SF1 I can see it only beating the German song so we could be set for a repeat bottom 2! I don’t know whether France and Spain have flop entries yet though.
The sound of Olly’s performance sounded better from all the audience recordings than the BBC performance.
I still think he sounded decent but the expectation is high.
Even if he absolutely nailed the vocals I don’t think the song is top half material. The standard is high now and a middling radio friendly pop track doesn’t cut it. As ever I’m happy to be proved wrong.
That said I still think we’ve taken a step forward in the last 3 years. You have to remember that you have nearly 40 countries in the competition, almost all of which take it seriously. That means if we take it seriously too we should win roughly once every 40 years. If we don’t take it seriously we’ll win never. Only if you make it a national institution like Sweden can you win every 5-10 years and that isn’t going to be us. I’m hopeful that we’re moving from the never to the 1 in 40 category - there’ll still be plenty of diff years with that and that’s OK.
Based on the YouTube views of the performances 24 hours of the semi-final, here is where Olly placed:
1. Croatia (1.8M)
2. Ireland (1.8M)
3. Ukraine (1.5M)
4. Finland (891k)
5. Serbia (591k)
6. Cyprus (486k)
7. Lithuania (422k)
8. United Kingdom (381k)
9. Slovenia (352k)
10. Portugal (260k)
11. Luxembourg (251k)
12. Sweden (204k)
13. Germany (163k)
I know YouTube views won't neccessarily turn into votes, but could be an indicator where the interest is at this point. I am going to try and do the same with Semi-Final 2, exactly 24 hours after it finishes, to see where they place in this list...
But it could suggest that Olly is looking like the top of the second half of the board if this is a good predictor.
My physical copies have just shipped - would expect ‘Dizzy’ to be high up on the first look chart on Sunday.
Czechia is the best so far in Semi 2, I hear Garbage vibes
Right bang in the centre as song 13 to perform on Saturday.
Oh dear. I'm late to the party, and I want to bring positivity but UK 2024's effort with Olly Alexander is just dreadful. 27 years now without a win - something isn't working.
Staging - 1/10 - it would look great in a pop video, but on the vast Eurovision stage, it feels odd, lost and very self indulgent.
Vocals - 2/10 - Based on Tuesday, Olly can't sing live - and was possibly the weakest vocalist on both nights. Blame the tech but a true artist would overcome this.
Song - 3/10 - formulaic rubbish - it's just not good enough - not even close.
Performance 3/10 - generic and forgettable - look at some of the favourites, UK just gets lost.
Prediction - bottom 5
Somebody just said: ' That said I still think we’ve taken a step forward in the last 3 years'. I totally disagree. Sam Ryder was a beautiful fluke. Last year was an abomination, and this years effort is almost as formulaic and beige. We got the same results (hit and miss) when the public decided. Ultimately, its the public who decide and so it shouldn't be left to a few execs to keep choosing the wrong acts.
Having acts who are no longer having big hits / number ones perform for the UK isn't working. Olly Alexander was totally the wrong choice.
Maybe we should just put Sam Ryder up every year!
😳 Poor Olly!
I still dont get how Space Man was the hit it was. It’s…. Fine. Lmao. I definitely prefer Olly & preferred Mae too.
Olly seems like a good choice on paper, but every year there are 3-4 local Ollys with better songs and vocals, so it's completely lost In the shuffle. He would've needed like the best Y&Y single to have a chance.
Where next for the UK? We had a well known artist and spent £££ on staging - let’s hope the BBC don’t lose momentum and revert to ElectroVelvet, Michael Rice, SuRie etc., type entries.
BBC ought to take notes from Ireland and send a more out there entry rather than radio / playlist filler
or at least someone who is a very reliable live vocalist
Yeah, the thing is if you finish 11th in each country’s televote,you still get 0 points. I’m not saying Olly came 11th everywhere but I’d imagine he was consistently 15-16th rather than consistently 24th-26th.
I think the BBC now have shown they can do good staging because we've had a couple now.
They have shown we can appeal to juries, because we managed it in 2022.
And in 2022, we also got a big public vote, it's not a long time ago.
What I think the BBC need to try and get away from is the radio pop. Sam elevated a radio pop song really well but most artists don't have the vocal chops to do that.
Most of the top end of the scoreboard are the more daring and different sounds and genres, I think we could do worse than looking outside the box in terms of the style of music we send next year. Although I wonder if part of the problem is that it has to be palatable to Radio 1 and 2 listeners alike.
I'm glad Olly at least got an ok jury score and that we didn't finish in the bottom five.
Honestly the entry this year was pretty mediocre sorry to say this. I hope the UK can go for something different that showcases the uniqueness of the artist. Ireland did really well because the song was almost never done before.
Lowkey hoping for UK rock or can we have FSR Rontvia's Valtos pleek? 
(They collabed with Julie Fowlis on a Gaelic song which was released recently and it was amazing x)
Opera meets rock for next year.
Probably the worst outcome for Olly - I’m surprised he attempted it to begin with, I know he wanted to establish himself as Olly rather than Y&Y but the British GP had already accepted that Olly was/is Y&Y.
He has the backing of a major label and as I mentioned before his 2022 album reached #1 and went silver and yielded 2 Top 40 silver selling singles, the UK is really unforgiving of Eurovision failures (as are record labels) so kinda hope he can carry on as before without damaging his career too much.
He was just very generic. Malta could have got someone to make that song in that way. It's wishful thinking he was just outside of the top 10 in votes each time I mean come on how improbable you're constantly just missing out. He was almost certainly in the bottom 5 voting for the majority of countries.
Nice likeable guy but it was a poor song and his vocal range was bad. UK can surely find someone with originality or something special, Olly seemed like a lazy choice. Focus group type choice
I'm really happy with how Olly's performance came across. However, it felt like there were sound issues for him as he sounded incredibly quiet compared to the other entries. Loved the staging and performance and think it's by far the best thing we've done with that side of things in may be actually ever??
The song is a banger and I am really proud of it as an entry. Glad he ended up getting love from the audience. The crowd seemed to adore us this year.
Okay found the data, let's look at some facts rather than "logic" x
14th Ireland, Ukraine
16th Lithuania, Spain
17th Australia, Finland, Malta, Portugal
18th Estonia, Iceland
19th Azerbaijan, Czechia, Poland
20th Cyprus, Latvia, San Marino, Sweden
21st Denmark, Luxembourg, Norway
22nd Belgium, Georgia, Moldova, Netherlands, Slovenia, Switzerland
23rd Armenia, Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Italy
24th Albania, Croatia, Israel, Serbia
And "Rest of the World" was 16th/17th it looks like.
Obviously not just outside the top 10 for the majority of countries, could be a better outcome really. Countries beyond the "friendlier" ones giving us placements in line with the likes of Ireland and Australia though x
Would be interesting to compare this data with some other recent non-Sam Ryder UK entries to really put it into context.
Friends who I was with said it was too homoerotic to do well
I thought it was good performance, good song but I'm one of those who thinks that Eurovision generally doesn't reward quality.
The same was said in my house and felt it wasnt needed as strongly for the song but I don't think it affected the scoring.
In the play back recap of all 25 songs I felt it sounded lifeless although when hearing it in full I liked the song.
how was it overly homoerotic jdsfksdkfh i cant even
If anything I didn't think it was homoerotic enough!
I thought that the choice to make the stage smaller was probably a mistake for the platform they had. They could have broken out of that cage thing earlier in the song and had a dance routine.
Generally my take on it was that it didn't really show a lot of artistic merit and looked as if it had been choreographed in order to hide a weak dancer's shortcomings - which was a mistake because I think Olly could have a) handled a dance break if one was given, and b) could have brought in something like playing the piano to start it off or doing a transition or something.
Put next to the likes of Nemo's performance it just didn't stack up and then compared to others on the night, it didn't have a particularly outstanding vocal OR dance performance OR gimmick apart from the stage.
I can see Eurovision fever within the BBC being well and truly over now and them giving up. I think the BBC team really thought they cracked it with Olly and had a contender and won’t look at the bigger picture of why it didn’t do well.
looks like their logic is that Embers placed 23rd in the overall televote because there were multiple 'nil points' and tiebreak is done by running order placement, whilst Mae came 2nd from last and Olly last
It wasn’t a great performance, or great staging or a great song.
That’s why it didn’t so well.
Olly was probably the weakest singer on the show which doesn’t help for a start.
I had a feeling it would go like this, maybe not to the extent of 0 points on the televote but it’s just a decent radio friendly song, nothing special, and his vocals really weren’t great. I expect a lot of people liked the song well enough but not enough to actually vote for it. And that’s our issue, with this and I Wrote A Song it was just a case of them being decent pop songs and nothing more, but that’s not enough for Eurovision.
I think we need to do a big vocal song again like Space Man or honestly take a risk with something in Gaelic or Welsh, just go totally different. I do think they will just put less effort in again since even then, it’s easy ratings for the BBC really.
Agree with what Liam and others have been saying about the song and performance. I think the staging didn’t tell enough of a story - here’s a homoerotic locker room scene might have been a talking point 20 years ago but not now.
Also to reiterate that in a pool of 37 countries doing their best you aren’t going to do well each year. We’ve just effectively come 18th out of 37 so that’s really nothing to be ashamed about.
The only times we’ve come top ten this century are with great singers, not even singing particularly amazing songs.
So maybe the BBC should just aim for the jury points next year in the first instance and try and find a standout singer like Jessica/Jade/Sam. Then if we can actually for once pair that with an amazing song, with a standout performance, we might motivate the televote too and stand half a chance.
With hindsight and Olly being announced last year he really should have teased maybe 3 or 4 songs on TikTok or even release an EP in January that he had been working on and seen what one got the best reaction. Instead of letting the BBC choose as they don’t always get it right or want to get it right. I think the early announcement of the artist was a wasted opportunity. I really can’t see how the BBC and Polydor thought ‘Dizzy’ was going to do well. I wouldn’t have selected it as a lead single never mind a Eurovision entry.
To me the staging is the least of their problems. I think it actually stands out with the dirty locker room vibe and the moments pertaining to dizziness. That ending with squares breaking down into a whirpool some sort of thing is highly mesmerising.
I agree that the biggest problem is the vocals and the song. This year has been extremely strong with the quality and every song has at least something unique in its production (or if not the performance is). Hope the UK tries something different with the song because Ireland got very far with it.
Bringing back a selection competition show should now be considered. Let the public decide again.
Poor Olly. Though I agree Dizzy is generic compared to a lot of the other entries and his vocals, while far better at the final than at the semi, aren’t really strong enough for a vocal moment. I think next year they should send Alexandra Burke. The UK public might not like her much but other Europeans might! 
I think she is at that stage in her career to be able to pull it off to success too. She can do a big strong ballad and/or give a great performance of a highly catchy pop song!
I think she is at that stage in her career to be able to pull it off to success too. She can do a big strong ballad and/or give a great performance of a highly catchy pop song!
Speaking of selections we should send Cassyette next time because:
she is not a typical ILR artist
She wrote a top 10 Eurovision song
She could easily make something that would connect with the audience and the jury could lap it up
Interesting - I didn't realise that Cassyette co-wrote Burn the Witch! I see that one half of Wargasm did too.
rina sawayama save us
I thought Olly did a pretty decent job vocally, for somebody whose televised live performances have historically tended to be on the shaky side!
I really like the song, I feel like the overall result could've been worse but that 0 in the televote was brutal and I don't think quite deserved - although I can understand how it may not have stood out in a crowded field.
Just got to the bit of the final where Olly performed
Totally undeserving of 0 points in the televote. I don’t buy the whole thing about a song not standing out getting nothing from the public. There were a few this year and yet Olly was the only one to get nothing
I do think UK are stuck in a trap of sending an amazing song and get top 5 in the public vote (never winning it) or send a less than amazing song and get nothing. There seems to be no in between
Susan Boyle with an original song could be a shout. She has the vocal chops and big name recognition.
Susan Boyle, Burke, x factor all seem a bit past the sell by date. Can't see there being much enthusiasm for those types. Not an easy choice as most top names wouldn't touch it
A rock band like Finland or an indie act like Bambie...
We don’t need any sort of washed up name, look how well it’s gone for us every time we’ve tried it. There are plenty of talented artists who would do it to build a profile for themselves who aren’t household names. Nemo and Baby Lasagna were not household names either.
BBC needs to do a song submission process I think and go from there. I don’t really think the artist first, song second approach works very often.
A talent who has an artistic vision and an interesting song would work wonders. But if the BBC insist on handicapping themselves by only having songs in a narrow range of genres then they're much less likely to stumble on something standout.
It also didn't quite work out for Sweden so 
The only name I've seen so far that I think could work well (with the right song, though her last album was really bland) would be Alexandra Burke. She has a phenomenal voice, and can perform.
But as much as I love her, I think sending someone like Rina (or someone else current/upcoming) would be an excellent bet. The song HAS to be instant though. Not a mid-tempo grower! Can't recall many saying Dizzy was great on first listen...
The zero votes was utterly brutal, it did not deserve that all. I said it wasn't the strongest performance of the night but it wasn't the worst either. The song itself is pretty good and the staging was great in my opinion.
At least he took it in good humour bless him.
Remember, Loreen's staging, more like a video, gotncriticism last year from fams too
https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/united-kingdom
From 2003 onwards the game changed
Tbf Olly's (Y&Y) last album wasn't particularly well reviewed either. He is riding a lot on the success of King and the first album and a career resurgence from Its a Sin which itself is now 3 years ago.
Yeah I agree Blue did ok. The staging could have been better and a lot of pressure was placed on Lee's voice (apparently he was off in the jury final which is why they marked the entry down, but I have no hard evidence of that - it just doesn't feel like a massively jury friendly song in the first place - imagine if they'd turned up with something like Breathe Easy).
I Can was actually a reasonable hit in Europe too, going top 10 in Germany, Switzerland and Austria - it always reminded me of Written In The Stars from the year before. But Blue haven't had it on their setlists for a long time, so I doubt it's recalled as a glowing moment for them, even though actually top five on the televote was really impressive because 2011 was at least seven years since Blue's heyday.
Some of these comments are killing me: 'Olly did a decent job vocally' or 'It was a great song' - neither are true. It was the worst vocal of the night.
This lame argument that the UK are somehow building towards something is ridic and laughable. Eurovision is boom or bust. You can have a country who are in the top 3 one year, and if they get it wrong the next, they can be in the bottom 5.
Send a lame act with a poor vocal and generic song, with self-indulgent staging and your song will not land, nor resonate, and will get ZERO points from the public. It's not rocket science. Olly was awful.
We need a 'UK decides' public vote - after all, we can't be any worse than what they've come up with.
I don't think anyone's saying we'll do well every year. More often than not, we'll get it wrong.
People just seem quick to forget the successes (Sam/Jade, to a lesser extent Blue). It's worth remembering, if we take an average of say 38 songs competing... Coming 19th or above is technically top half (so we could add the likes of Olly and Lucie to that mix too). We don't need to compete in the semis, so we're competing against the songs that have already proved themselves - and that's a problem most of the big 5 feel - Italy do a similar thing to Sweden, and feel the rewards of that, but I'm sure they are also capable of sending a "lower half" song.
We're heading in the right direction, Olly didn't appeal to the public, but he was smack bang in the middle of ALL songs competing. That says we are getting something right.
or Estonia's for that matter
I think Armenia has good vocals tho
They should get someone like Xenomania to produce the next UK entry. Producers who make quirky quality pop music.
Get Xenomania to reform Unperfect and send them 
Love you all and no offense but none of the other Big 5 country fans are so f***ing arrogant and echo chamber-y in regards to their own entries lmao
UK just hosted the contest literally last year AAAAAAAaaAAAAAaaaaAaAAaa
Also, Olly is not really a household name you think he is LOL 'It's a Sin' was not a big thing outside of UK and I guess Ireland.
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I wonder if Olly saw the top 10 hits Sam and Mae got and thought he might try his luck to kickstart a solo career (in his own name at least). It’s a shame he did so badly in the public vote as it will probably deter other famous musicians from taking part. we need to go all out there next year theatrics and all.
Olly may not be a "household name", but he's had multiple sizeable hits in Europe and outside of the UK so I think that's doing him a bit of a disservice. He's at least known internationally to some degree.
Wouldn't it be fairer if UK (and the other big 4 countries) had to qualify like all others? Has that every been seriously considered and if not, why not?
From what I have seen of the Big 5, Spanish fans are just as passionate and echo chambery as us about their entry choices and performances (or often, lack of). They have been very damning about some of their past entries and results. Italy has an incredible selection process that attracts great names, songwriters and performers and always sends quality - we can only dream for something similar here, I don't think Italian fans really need to worry much. France know what they are doing and even on flop years they have usually sent something unique and interesting that fans can be proud of, not plodding radio pop every single time. Germany is pretty much in the same boat as us, although I don't know enough about German fans to comment on how they react to their entries usually.
I think all many of us ask is that the BBC looks outside the box a bit more, especially when we don't get a choice in the artist or song. I don't think any of us here believe we have a God given right to high points and a good placing (one top ten since 2010 has hardly allowed us to build massive egos), I just think we hoped that maybe Sam might get the ball rolling on entries we could be a bit more proud of as fans of the contest.
If it comes across as arrogance, I don't think it's intentional. I think it's the passion of knowing that we could and should be exposing Europe to more interesting facets of our music industry and we don't.
As for Dizzy, I was super excited about this year, tbh moreso for Danny L Harle as a songwriter than Olly because I love nearly everything he's produced, so to have another damp squib zero is going to provoke reaction from fans due to the initial promise of that annoucement - whether the song, ultimately, deserved it or not.
I can't see that it would have changed anything. Eurovision is littered with names that did nothing - DJ Bobo, Cascada, Las Ketchup, Darude, The Rasmus. I can't see that the Years & Years name would have brought the points rolling in - maybe in 2016, not 2024.
Actually come to think of it, I do know a couple of people here in Germany who were even offended at the idea of the German song this year potentially doing bad. Although somehow they came 12th. Touché on that part 😅
Yeah, the Spanish fans are definitely the most passionate I've ever witnessed (which I love to be honest) and they were foaming at Zorra's result and Eaea's last year. I guess, similarly to the UK, you could say they're ungrateful seeing as Chanel came 3rd in 2022. I wouldn't see it that way myself though.
How do I now look back on how this did? Disappointed. We made so much more effort this year than anything pre-Sam, not just phoned in as it was for much of the 2010s, so I think we have a right to be disappointed that the effort was met with a 0. In hindsight, was the performance probably offputting to many? Probably. And the song likely wasn't good enough to counteract that, in the way that it probably did for Bambie Thug, whose performance definitely riled up many, but also stunned its lovers. I don't know that Olly's song/vocals conjured up enough opposing support to the detractors.
I still adore the staging though, I don't take that back, and it was easily one of the most impressive to see live. I still love the song, one of my favourites of the year. I can't believe it got ZERO, I could've been unsurprised at like 5 or 6, but it was a much better package than zero for sure.
Thanks for clarification but that feels a bit "all countries are equal but some are more equal than others" But we live in a world where money talks.
Although the fact that UK phoned in its entrants with no.hope of winning for several years but people still watch means that maybe there would still be healthy ratings for a UKless show f they didn't qualify on merit.
It would be interesting to know in other countries how much them not being in the final affects the ratings.
I’ve long thought auto-qualifying isn’t all it’s cracked up to be as it actually means you’re statistically likely to have a higher proportion of very low finishes in the final. Better that the song is put out of its misery in the semis if it isn’t good enough.
I remember 2010 having a really low rating in the UK compared to most others in the last twenty years, probably because there was very little hype for Josh Dubovie to do well at all compared to Jade and Blue either side of it and no obvious big novelty entries that year to tune into. I think it also took place on a very sunny day which might have hit ratings further.
Many of my friends this year didn’t even realise it was on compared to the massive publicity Liverpool got, and yeah no one ever thought Olly had a shot at winning compared to his almost-namesake Molly a decade ago, which was another big ratings year here.
I wouldn't watch the show if it wasn't for the UK being in it and I suspect the majority of the UK wouldn't either. The lure of it is the inevitable lack of televotes or the surprising votes from some juries, the campness but also how bad the show is really. It's always incredibly naff with moments of brilliance which makes it so entertaining.
Has Olly given any press interviews since the contest? I can't find any.
Oh he has spoken glad he’s seeing the nil points as iconic at least. I thought he’d have a TV interview at least.
So we might as well go back to having a national selection next year, right? Could be fun - maybe have each local radio station pick their artists / songs and put them forward for a grand final?
I’m not against a national selection but the problem is that if it’s controlled by the BBC you tend to end up with a MOR winner. If the public are just asked to choose between 50 shades of Dizzy it won’t necessarily help. And I’m not sure the general public in this country are invested enough in Eurovision to make a selection contest a success.
I am absolutely against a national selection. I'm sorry. The public cannot be trusted with ANYTHING. Seriously.
But the real competition is decided by the public, so saying the public can’t be trusted with it seems slightly circular. OK it’s only 50% public votes and by all countries not just the UK, but I don’t think there’s any evidence that the UK public televotes are out of line with other countries’. And you could have 50% jury votes in the national contest too.
Of course you still have to make sure that the selection show is being watched by a representative audience and that you’re shortlisting enough variety in the first place. The last bit is where I worry it would fall down.
I think that’s why the shortlist should come through local radio - enough decent musical experts there. You could have a 50/50 voting split with juries for the final.
Also, the acts we chose via the national selection, Javeen excluded, were just awful. I think you’d really struggle to get anyone of note to sign up for that right now.
The UK has a unique problem that, in every other country, to promote yourself via a national final is unbeatable promotion, money can’t buy. And if it winds up being the peak of your career - no issue. Here, no artist starting to make moves in their career wants to come 3rd in a selection to decide who represents the UK at Eurovision.
You think Rina Sawayama is fighting it through heats to see if she gets to Eurovision etc? That’s why we end up with failed X Factor early-outs and what not, because it’s all they have, but they’re nowhere near the calibre we need. It does make it difficult for us because the British public are just so judgemental. God knows this position will probably be held over Olly Alexander for years, whilst we saw how Benjamin Ingrosso is now one of Sweden’s biggest stars despite not doing great by Sweden’s standards.
Basically we’re just a shit negative country that makes it difficult for our artists xx
Why can’t we have as a competition for unsigned artists? As I said, get local radio to nominate someone from each area and then have a national final with regional winners. A proper grassroots competition - it’s what the BBC should be about really.
I imagine local radio would have the same older-skewing demographic as our previous national finals, and we'd probably still end up with a boring ballad. The idea in theory sure, I don't pay much attention to BBC Introducing but I'm sure there's some great stuff in there, there's just the risk of us choosing a nice enough song that lacks stage presence.
Spain's Benidorm Fest is probably what we should aim for in the long-term considering they were in a similar situation to us before, but I think we need a few more years of the BBC gently holding the British public's hand to get them to understand what a modern Eurovision entry looks like. I think one thing that Benidorm Fest does well is it guarantees competing artists a slot at so many events over the year (Madrid Pride, national holiday concerts and other broadcaster-related events), maybe if we did something like that then artists would see it as an opportunity for promo even if they don't win.
The problem with a selection through public vote is it will most likely be won by a vanilla pretty boy. Unless all the contenders offered something truly exciting, I think we’d be left with a bland winner.
I'm pretty convinced nothing's gonna change until the BBC radio-friendly criteria is done with, we may strike lucky occasionally with a standout ballad by a capable performer, but otherwise, we're just too darn boring.
Poor Olly, re-entry at #48 today The fact he couldn’t snatch a hit I’m sure will have him wondering why he entered in the first place.
He’s #1 on the vinyl and physical charts so managed to shift a decent amount.
The national selection was rather hit and miss.
From 2016-19, we only got one decent result (Lucie). I think the UK's expectations are (hopefully) higher after Sam, but it depends on what the choices are.
I thought Asanda (Legends) would have been a better choice for us in 2018 but the performance wasn't good enough.
Freaks has over 100m streams on Spotify, while Bigger Than Us, a song that was performed to 182 million people, has 6 million streams who knows if Freaks would've done all that well at Eurovision, I'm sure it would've been screwed over by the BBC's nonchalant attitude to Eurovision back then with some rubbish staging, but goes to show that songs from the national selection can find an audience somewhere. I assume almost everyone who's streamed Freaks is entirely unaware of its Eurovision connection, but it's a shame that kinda thing isn't being capitalised on when it's been proven to have a pretty wide reach for a song that hasn't really been promoted post-You Decide!
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