BuzzJack Music Forum _ Pop and Country _ Mae Muller - Sorry I'm Late
Posted by: Voodoo 24th May 2023, 09:44 AM
Posted by: Jessie Where 24th May 2023, 09:56 AM
Ooooh, Cher Lloyd's influence lives on!
Posted by: -Jay- 24th May 2023, 09:59 AM
My first thought was Cher Lloyd too!
Physical CD artwork:
Good for her! Let's hope for some great bops. I Wrote a Song took a long while to properly click with me, but I'm more on board with her now than I was a couple of months ago.
Posted by: One_For_Sorrow 24th May 2023, 10:03 AM
Hahaha first thought was Cher Lloyd too.
Posted by: Hadji 24th May 2023, 10:10 AM
She should’ve included FTG on the album but at least she included Better Days on the album
Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th May 2023, 10:12 AM
QUOTE(Hadji @ May 24 2023, 11:10 AM)
She should’ve included FTG on the album but at least she included Better Days on the album
She probably couldn't/wasn't allowed. Better Days was released by her label, Feels This Good wasn't.
Posted by: Lukuzz 24th May 2023, 10:48 AM
Hope it does well for her, but feel like by September some of her hype will have wore off, hope she’s got another bop ready to release in the next month or so
Posted by: tommie 24th May 2023, 11:45 AM
QUOTE(Lukuzz @ May 24 2023, 10:48 AM)
Hope it does well for her, but feel like by September some of her hype will have wore off, hope she’s got another bop ready to release in the next month or so
To be fair, it would bomb off the back of I Wrote A Song only, so it's better for her to at least try to get another hit. Space Man, I Wrote A Song is not.
Posted by: Roba. 24th May 2023, 12:08 PM
'I Just Came To Dance' is the bop that I overpredicted in BJSC I am intrigued to see if she can bring the bops though. Not heard the dance one that's top 100 atm.
Posted by: TheSnake 24th May 2023, 04:57 PM
I'm disappointed that she didn't call it 'I Wrote An Album'
Posted by: Jessie Where 24th May 2023, 05:00 PM
QUOTE(TheSnake @ May 24 2023, 05:57 PM)
I'm disappointed that she didn't call it 'I Wrote An Album'
Same actually, come to think of it!
Posted by: spiceboy 24th May 2023, 06:26 PM
QUOTE(TheSnake @ May 24 2023, 05:57 PM)
I'm disappointed that she didn't call it 'I Wrote An Album'
Omg what a MISSED opportunity!
Posted by: Sean. 24th May 2023, 10:45 PM
Cher Lloyd =>
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th May 2023, 11:30 PM
I wrote an album would be a great title,.
Posted by: Yobnedor 25th May 2023, 04:20 PM
Are all the songs on the vinyl? Crikey they must be interludes!
Posted by: Cameron 25th May 2023, 10:04 PM
Excited
Posted by: ___∆___ 3rd June 2023, 01:58 PM
Living up to her album title name my signed IWAS CD singles arrived today - they were meant to ship Eurovision week, what a waste of a sales boost for that week!
Posted by: Voodoo 19th August 2023, 08:41 PM
Not much of a trailer, is it?
Posted by: Megan_x 19th August 2023, 09:07 PM
What’s the benefit of pre-adding her album to Spotify or Apple Music instead of encouraging her fans to purchase a physical copy for a chance to win? It doesn’t make much sense except for playlisting one song.
Posted by: Lunar 19th August 2023, 09:10 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Aug 19 2023, 10:07 PM)
What’s the benefit of pre-adding her album to Spotify or Apple Music instead of encouraging her fans to purchase a physical copy for a chance to win? It doesn’t make much sense except for playlisting one song.
There's another separate competition for pre-ordering a physical copy. If you pre-order from her store you have the chance to win her Eurovision outfit
Posted by: Megan_x 24th August 2023, 07:00 AM
Posted by: Megan_x 24th August 2023, 07:04 AM
This album rollout is a little messy IMO but I hope it works out for her.
Posted by: tommie 24th August 2023, 07:36 AM
Unfortunately, with Me, Myself & I doing literally nothing and cancelling the tour to explore "tv and film opportunities" this all screams that they know the album will bomb badly.
I hope it at least can achieve a decent peak, but it's looking rather bleak at the moment.
Posted by: JackTheeStallion 25th August 2023, 08:05 AM
"MTJL" has dropped and ....it's awful lmao. The lyrics are so cringe worthy and gives me "Perfect To Me" / "Live More & Love More" teas.
Posted by: tommie 25th August 2023, 08:38 AM
They thought this was a good promo song for the album?
Posted by: Megan_x 25th August 2023, 10:17 AM
It definitely should have been a banger instead. It hasn't even hit the top 200 on iTunes.
"I wish I was a better singer"....
Posted by: Voodoo 28th August 2023, 06:56 PM
What's MTJL anyway?
Posted by: -Jay- 28th August 2023, 10:59 PM
Maybe That's Just Life
Posted by: spiceboy 29th August 2023, 02:01 PM
Still think she should have released this album off the back of I wrote a song and called it I wrote an Album
Posted by: Megan_x 7th September 2023, 06:13 PM
The messy rollout continues but this time it’s due to EXCITING THINGS!!
New release date is 29th Sept.
Posted by: Jessie Where 7th September 2023, 06:36 PM
I saw a sponsored ad on Facebook yesterday for Mae Muller baseball caps.
I can imagine they're a highly sought after item
Posted by: Hadji 7th September 2023, 07:16 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Sep 7 2023, 07:13 PM)
The messy rollout continues but this time it’s due to EXCITING THINGS!!
New release date is 29th Sept.
She ain’t getting #1 then as she’s put herself against Ed. She’s also against Sigala who she also collaborated with but their collab isn’t on her album
Posted by: Megan_x 7th September 2023, 07:17 PM
QUOTE(Hadji @ Sep 7 2023, 08:16 PM)
She ain’t getting #1 then as she’s put herself against Ed. She’s also against Sigala who she also collaborated with but their collab isn’t on her album
I don’t think she was ever in contention for #1 if it was 15th or 29th.
Posted by: Voodoo 7th September 2023, 07:26 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Sep 7 2023, 09:13 PM)
New release date is 29th Sept.
Her album title has become very apt now.
Posted by: Lukuzz 8th September 2023, 07:39 AM
Why push it back 2 weeks so random
Posted by: Rob 8th September 2023, 03:21 PM
QUOTE(Hadji @ Sep 7 2023, 08:16 PM)
She ain’t getting #1 then as she’s put herself against Ed. She’s also against Sigala who she also collaborated with but their collab isn’t on her album
Mae was doing acoustic shows with album signings but now these are without the album and she’s signing merch and album cards instead. This should give her a boost if she can sell them. The downside is she hasn’t sold out yet and people might choose to purchase the entry ticket and not the album if they can’t get the CD or vinyl signed. I don’t think she is doing HMV signings but there might not be the interest for that.
Posted by: WhoOdyssey 9th September 2023, 04:44 PM
QUOTE(Hadji @ Sep 7 2023, 08:16 PM)
She ain’t getting #1 then as she’s put herself against Ed. She’s also against Sigala who she also collaborated with but their collab isn’t on her album
She was never going to get a #1 anyway. Besides, Sigala won’t be much competition for the top spots either, his debut only got to #14 and he has less hits this time around.
Posted by: Rob 9th September 2023, 05:14 PM
What sort of poor management does she have that they couldn't move the signings by 2 weeks. How can it even be advertised as an "album singing" 2 weeks before the album is out?!
Posted by: ___∆___ 9th September 2023, 05:29 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Aug 19 2023, 10:07 PM)
What’s the benefit of pre-adding her album to Spotify or Apple Music instead of encouraging her fans to purchase a physical copy for a chance to win? It doesn’t make much sense except for playlisting one song.
Doesn’t pre-adds help with streaming platforms algorithms - when they can see there is a demand for it from people who also listen to X & Y artist they will put it in front of others that listen to them also, or add certain songs to relevant playlists?
Posted by: Megan_x 9th September 2023, 06:19 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Sep 9 2023, 06:29 PM)
Doesn’t pre-adds help with streaming platforms algorithms - when they can see there is a demand for it from people who also listen to X & Y artist they will put it in front of others that listen to them also, or add certain songs to relevant playlists?
I suppose, but I thought she’d be focusing on sales or downloads for a prize, not streaming, but there was another competition to win her Eurovision outfit Her album launch at G-A-Y on 16/09 is only £5 on the door so no album purchase required for that either.
I was thinking of where she’s going to get her sales from aside from her official store tbh. I get sponsored ads but it remains to be seen whether that is effective.
Posted by: ___∆___ 9th September 2023, 06:23 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Sep 9 2023, 07:19 PM)
I suppose, but I thought she’d be focusing on sales or downloads for a prize, not streaming, but there was another competition. Her album launch at G-A-Y on 16/09 is only £5 on the door so no album purchase required for that either.
I was thinking of where she’s going to get her sales from tbh. I get sponsored ads but it remains to be seen whether that is effective.
She’s announced 5 signings/album launch shows, I feel like they are going to have to really go for it though to get sales up and I’m expecting some price drops in release week.
Posted by: Megan_x 9th September 2023, 06:31 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Sep 9 2023, 07:23 PM)
She’s announced 5 signings/album launch shows, I feel like they are going to have to really go for it though to get sales up and I’m expecting some price drops in release week.
Yes my post was before that so I’m glad she announced some. They seem to be 300-400 capacity so they need to add a ton of other promo or discounts during release week.
Maybe she will surprise us all with 20K+ sales
Posted by: JosephStyles 9th September 2023, 06:45 PM
QUOTE(Rob @ Sep 9 2023, 06:14 PM)
What sort of poor management does she have that they couldn't move the signings by 2 weeks. How can it even be advertised as an "album singing" 2 weeks before the album is out?!
Tom Odell did this and his album wasn't even (publicly) delayed. Still played a Rough Trade show and met everyone after, just signed an photo card instead and the albums were shipped out to us. Sales still count so the label won't care.
Posted by: ___∆___ 9th September 2023, 06:57 PM
^^ This, it happens a lot - I’m going to a Holly Humberstone signing before the album is out, they give an artcard at the signing and the album gets shipped on release.
It’s actually a good way of getting in more signings.
Posted by: Jessie Where 9th September 2023, 07:49 PM
It wouldn't altogether surprise me if the release of this album ends up being cancelled.
Posted by: Moby Dick 9th September 2023, 08:30 PM
So she's selling caps on Facebook now, I hear
Posted by: ___∆___ 9th September 2023, 09:06 PM
QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Sep 9 2023, 08:49 PM)
It wouldn't altogether surprise me if the release of this album ends up being cancelled.
I hope not seeing as the release is so close - but it does happen (I remember HRVY’s album getting totally scrapped just before release).
I can certainly see her exiting her label after the album though, I can’t see it achieving anywhere near what they would want for an artist like Mae and further hits don’t appear to be incoming at the moment
Posted by: Yobnedor 9th September 2023, 09:55 PM
I haven’t pre-ordered because I am hoping for a price cut on release week
Posted by: Megan_x 9th September 2023, 10:03 PM
It won’t be cancelled she spent at least 10 minutes signing vinyls the other day
Posted by: WhoOdyssey 9th September 2023, 10:22 PM
She’s doing an interview on Monday with my uni student magazine, her PR agent told us to focus on the album more than Eurovision - so it’s certainly not looking likely to be cancelled!
Posted by: Megan_x 9th September 2023, 10:41 PM
I want it to debut reasonably well for Eurovision. Alright she was absolutely terrible and the marketing could be better but her tour was already cancelled now if her album does badly and then she’s dropped it isn’t going to encourage others to consider it.
PSA to pre-order her album 💿 (no I haven’t)
Posted by: gooddelta 9th September 2023, 10:50 PM
It got a 2/5 review in Retropop magazine so I’m not expecting great things. Apparently some good stuff on there, towards the start in particular, but feels too long and less of a cohesive album and more just a bunch of songs.
I was going to buy it as I bought her EP in 2020 and liked that but will probably stream it first.
Posted by: ___∆___ 9th September 2023, 11:04 PM
QUOTE(Yobnedor @ Sep 9 2023, 10:55 PM)
I haven’t pre-ordered because I am hoping for a price cut on release week
Same! Also it all feels a bit expensive? It’s certainly not priced to attract casual sales and build on her ESC exposure - the signed vinyl is £29.99 and the cassettes are £9.99, I feel with Mae they should be lowering them especially the cassettes that even Kylie is knocking out for £7
Posted by: ___∆___ 9th September 2023, 11:07 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Sep 9 2023, 11:03 PM)
It won’t be cancelled she spent at least 10 minutes signing vinyls the other day
I remember HRVY signing all his vinyl and CDs for it to be pulled just before release!
A few have found their way onto the market though - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275924652591?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=QxXUTeJxTwS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=loaa11rktzg&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Posted by: WhoOdyssey 9th September 2023, 11:09 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Sep 10 2023, 12:07 AM)
I remember HRVY signing all his vinyl and CDs for it to be pulled just before release!
A few have found their way onto the market though - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275924652591?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=QxXUTeJxTwS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=loaa11rktzg&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Poor HRVY, even a “RARE” signed album on vinyl is only £19.95
Posted by: Megan_x 10th September 2023, 08:03 AM
What a rip-off £9.99 for a cassette or £25 for all 3?? They need to speak to Dua, Olivia or Billie’s supplier!!!
There should be a CD and Cassette bundle for £14.99.
Posted by: Rob 11th September 2023, 08:36 AM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Sep 9 2023, 10:03 PM)
It won’t be cancelled she spent at least 10 minutes signing vinyls the other day
Amelia Lily and HRVY did the same thing and both albums were cancelled before release. Hopefully the same thing won’t happen Mae.
Posted by: ___∆___ 11th September 2023, 03:14 PM
Extra singing added at Banquet which is a plus - it shows there is some interest, I think the in stores are usually only for around 100 people though so low numbers but better than nothing!
Posted by: Megan_x 11th September 2023, 05:35 PM
I am surprised that Mae's management did not attempt to book (at least) a bigger venue in London after she did a reasonably sized headline tour in 2022. It would have been a good opportunity to combine signings with a mini tour especially as she doesn’t have HMV signings. The venues they chose seem small…
Posted by: ___∆___ 13th September 2023, 05:47 PM
Mae confirmed for Graham Norton on the 29th!
Excellent promo and King Graham supporting ESC artists.
Posted by: Voodoo 13th September 2023, 06:13 PM
So that's why EMI delayed the album.
Posted by: Megan_x 14th September 2023, 10:35 AM
Mae appeared on The One Show yesterday and the first thing they mentioned was how she finished 25th at Eurovision
Posted by: JackTheeStallion 14th September 2023, 01:52 PM
She got downgraded in Manchester from Club Academy (capacity: 470) to YES (capacity: 250) and on my ticket which I bought on Monday, it's numbered "53" - hopefully that's not how much she sold ������
Posted by: RobBot 14th September 2023, 01:59 PM
!!
Oh god, we were Ticket 7 from the first day, so I would hazard a guess that it is indeed the amount they sold
Posted by: Lukuzz 14th September 2023, 02:20 PM
Yeah seems it’s definitely been moved to coincide with the GN appearance
Posted by: Megan_x 14th September 2023, 02:38 PM
I looked at her extra signing at Banquet Records 5 minutes ago (back by popular demand!) and it showed 3 left so I thought YAE MAE you sold out both of them and then I realised I clicked on the original one and it's still showing 43 left. It was showing 50 on Monday soon after it was announced.
Posted by: ___∆___ 14th September 2023, 08:54 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Sep 14 2023, 03:38 PM)
I looked at her extra signing at Banquet Records 5 minutes ago (back by popular demand!) and it showed 3 left so I thought YAE MAE you sold out both of them and then I realised I clicked on the original one and it's still showing 43 left. It was showing 50 on Monday soon after it was announced.
The first signing was showing as sold out for at least a day so potentially they’ve added more?
Posted by: Megan_x 14th September 2023, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Sep 14 2023, 09:54 PM)
The first signing was showing as sold out for at least a day so potentially they’ve added more?
They mae have added some spaces but it’s tomorrow and I thought they had both sold out.
I hope she sells 10K! Go on Mae
Posted by: ___∆___ 14th September 2023, 09:50 PM
Personally signed copies also available via Banquet - https://www.banquetrecords.com/mae-muller/sorry-i%27m-late-%5Bpersonally-signed%5D/EMICDPS2097?fbclid=PAAaamj368ei2mAiVETuFhUhv0lDE3o1o5E3cqRFfPx54BGQiJyEmRDDUnpW8_aem_Abfg43y s9G40RwOUa4gxc1XZPrbg6r9lOMitUz84pmGr-HGwA0dX6zTcAhuJLIzdZNY
Posted by: Megan_x 15th September 2023, 09:33 AM
New single:
Posted by: Mangø 15th September 2023, 09:46 AM
Much better than her last one! Still can't see it being a hit though.
Posted by: Davidson 15th September 2023, 11:20 AM
Sadly the material is not there is it?
I would love to support her as I really warmed to her personality during Eurovision and I am willing her to do well, but I can't buy an album of material that is this average.
Posted by: JackTheeStallion 15th September 2023, 12:00 PM
Unfortunately I agree the last two have been average duds which is a shame as I really love her as a person!
Saying that I unashamedly LOVE "Me, Myself & I"
Posted by: conorw 15th September 2023, 12:35 PM
This one is so good! Love the dramatic instrumental! I must admit the date push back was a pain but fingers crossed it can still go top 10 in two weeks time. I’m expecting it to perform similar to Tate McRae or Mimi webbs albums and chart at around 7
Posted by: Voodoo 16th September 2023, 12:14 PM
Just realised that her vocal is so similar to Jesy Nelson's. They could duet together.
Posted by: Rough_edges 16th September 2023, 01:07 PM
Nothing she has done has been good in my eyes, still shocked she was picked for our entry with that song. She seems genuinely lovely though so hope this does something for her, but we probably won't hear from her again after this album
Posted by: ___∆___ 19th September 2023, 04:48 PM
Price drop on the CD and vinyl
https://ibb.co/fFLKgX7
Posted by: Hadji 19th September 2023, 06:24 PM
She can try every trick she can to get #1 but she ain’t gonna get it as she’s up against Ed Sheeran
Posted by: Brer 19th September 2023, 06:26 PM
I highly doubt she'll be anywhere close to #1.
Posted by: Voodoo 19th September 2023, 06:39 PM
She'll be lucky to go Top 10.
Posted by: ___∆___ 19th September 2023, 07:05 PM
QUOTE(Hadji @ Sep 19 2023, 07:24 PM)
She can try every trick she can to get #1 but she ain’t gonna get it as she’s up against Ed Sheeran
I don’t think their aim is anywhere near #1 tbh - I’m sure they are wanting a Top 10 and have dropped the price based on pre-orders (or lack of).
Posted by: _Clo_ 21st September 2023, 10:16 AM
Jorja Smith nabbed the Strictly Come Dancing performance slot next weekend (release week), which is good for her, unfortunate for Mae, but she does have Graham Norton and hopefully will get other daytime opportunities.
Posted by: ___∆___ 21st September 2023, 05:46 PM
^^ I think Mae will snatch any bit of promo that comes her way tbh - radio, daytime TV etc., if they will have her then she’ll be on!
Posted by: Rob 22nd September 2023, 02:14 PM
QUOTE(Hadji @ Sep 19 2023, 07:24 PM)
She can try every trick she can to get #1 but she ain’t gonna get it as she’s up against Ed Sheeran
Why do you keep pushing this weird narrative about her chasing a #1? I think her team must know she'll be lucky to get Top 20.
Posted by: JackTheeStallion 29th September 2023, 08:15 AM
I absolutely love her as a person and I do think I Wrote A Song and Me, Myself & I are solid pop songs but the rest is all a bit if a slog and her voice is actually kind of annoying too
Posted by: Yobnedor 29th September 2023, 08:43 AM
I’ll have to give this a listen before I commit to buying…
Posted by: ___∆___ 29th September 2023, 08:50 AM
I really like the album on first listen, I would love to see it do decently for her - surely she can pass the 3.8k ish needed for a Top 20.
She has over 4 million Spotify listeners and have added her big collab to the album - I know streams will be downgraded but it’ll help.
I think she’ll be everywhere this week and all over socials pushing the album, she has Banquet personally signed, I know they have done a price cut but I think they’ll need a £4.99 CD / £19.99 vinyl / £4.99 iTunes price reductions.
Also she has signed vinyl but they should have pushed a cheap signed CD option.
Posted by: _Clo_ 29th September 2023, 10:23 AM
The album is decent overall, but I think "Me, Myself and I" is the best track. "I Wrote A Song" feels out of place, as its theme is quite shallow. At times, it feels like she is trying to emulate RAYE or Mimi Webb in terms of themes, but the melodies are lacking and therefore forgettable in comparison.
Posted by: Davidson 29th September 2023, 11:17 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Sep 29 2023, 09:50 AM)
I really like the album on first listen, I would love to see it do decently for her - surely she can pass the 3.8k ish needed for a Top 20.
Hmmmm I am not convinced. The album market is dead and her promo on socials have been getting no traction. He has hidden her likes now but her Banquet Record signing one got barely a few hundred likes most of the day before the likes were hidden.
I’m predicting 1.5-2k end of week max.
I can see this entering at somewhere between #80-#100 on the album chart.
Posted by: ___∆___ 29th September 2023, 11:21 PM
QUOTE(Davidson @ Sep 30 2023, 12:17 AM)
I’m predicting 1.5-2k end of week max.
I can see this entering at somewhere between #80-#100 on the album chart.
Poor Mae if that happens.
Posted by: Davidson 30th September 2023, 12:21 AM
I’m actually really pleasantly surprised by this album though.
The worst songs are definitely the singles… why they chose ‘Me, Myself & I’, ‘MTJL’ and ‘Written By A Woman’ as the post-Eurovision songs, I will never know. It basically made me write this album off as the material was so weak.
‘Nervous’, ‘Something New’, ‘Little Bit Sad’ and ‘Miss America’ are really lovely and well-produced 80s leaning pop songs. I would have had no clue there were songs of this quality on this album if I hadn’t decided to look past the singles. The two former ones would have been GREAT follow ups to IWAS.
Posted by: _Clo_ 30th September 2023, 06:48 AM
Mae's album climbed significantly on Amazon after her appearance on Graham Norton, but I suspect her team spent more on advertising than they earned in pre-orders. The song entered at #38 on iTunes which is its highest peak.
Jorja Smith is performing on Strictly, curious to see which TV promotion is more effective.
Posted by: Padamic Tension 30th September 2023, 08:02 AM
Her performance on GN last night was good and the song is catchy (I also loved her aweness of Kylie when she hugged her) I don't think the album will be huge but think she should manage to go top 40 with it or possibly top 30.
Posted by: _Clo_ 30th September 2023, 08:22 AM
It's lovely to see how much she genuinely appreciates releasing her album. She said she was worried about her pop career before "Better Days" was a hit, so it's great that her label released it after Eurovision. I'm not sure how long her career as a popstar will last, but I wish her all the best.
Based on my prediction of 2,936 sales, I think she has a good chance of breaking the top 40, but that might be too optimistic because she hasn’t got any more signings or promo booked in.
Posted by: Rob 30th September 2023, 09:04 AM
I’m really rooting for her but the album is a bit of a slog. The amount of people’s names used just so she can rhyme them off something is just lazy songwriting.
Posted by: ___∆___ 30th September 2023, 12:53 PM
I think she’s really likable but the GP are not taking to her music (I don’t think it has anything to do with her ESC performance either).
The single hasn’t made the Top 30 on iTunes yet and the album climbed from #9 to #8 after the show was aired (Kylie climbed from #7 to #2).
Posted by: darrens94 30th September 2023, 02:19 PM
Had a listen to the album. I was expecting there to be a song or two that would have been better for Eurovision but there just isn’t. It says a lot when ‘I Wrote A Song’ is the stand out track for me.
Posted by: Jessie Where 30th September 2023, 04:44 PM
I tried with this but I gave up after a few songs. It's just so insipid
Posted by: Rough_edges 30th September 2023, 05:39 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Sep 30 2023, 01:53 PM)
I think she’s really likable but the GP are not taking to her music (I don’t think it has anything to do with her ESC performance either).
The single hasn’t made the Top 30 on iTunes yet and the album climbed from #9 to #8 after the show was aired (Kylie climbed from #7 to #2).
She's lovely she's genuine she could be very much a success. The songs are awful and dated and I do believe the eurovsiion song was universally quite hated and a lot of people were annoyed we came off the success of Space Man to a very low tier irritating song.
Posted by: spiceboy 30th September 2023, 07:42 PM
QUOTE(Rough_edges @ Sep 30 2023, 06:39 PM)
She's lovely she's genuine she could be very much a success. The songs are awful and dated and I do believe the eurovsiion song was universally quite hated and a lot of people were annoyed we came off the success of Space Man to a very low tier irritating song.
It obviously wasn't "universally quite hated" otherwise it wouldn't have gone top 10.
Posted by: Rough_edges 30th September 2023, 07:56 PM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Sep 30 2023, 08:42 PM)
It obviously wasn't "universally quite hated" otherwise it wouldn't have gone top 10.
A song can still be universally hated and chart. It was mass exposed following the hype of the previous year any song that would have been entered would have done the same success. A chart position doesn't mean a liked song anymore especially in the streaming age.
Posted by: JosephStyles 30th September 2023, 08:02 PM
QUOTE(Rough_edges @ Sep 30 2023, 08:56 PM)
A song can still be universally hated and chart. It was mass exposed following the hype of the previous year any song that would have been entered would have done the same success. A chart position doesn't mean a liked song anymore especially in the streaming age.
Surely the streaming age is a BETTER representation of what is actually liked? It's severely dampened the impact of a fanbase buying any old crap an artist puts out, and has almost totally eradicated the chance of rubbish covers for charity charting highly based off their cause alone. If people didn't like I Wrote a Song, it wouldn't have charted at all, but it charted *on its debut week* (SPACE MAN did not) and obviously climbed into the top 10, only the second of our Eurovision entries to do that in recent times. Did everyone like it? No, clearly not, and something obviously didn't resonate across Europe based on its leaderboard position, but I know the song was still popular among Eurovision stans (and clearly the wider public if they went and streamed it).
Posted by: _Clo_ 30th September 2023, 08:24 PM
“I Wrote a Song" was popular, but I agree it benefited from the success of "Space Man”. Radio stations and streaming platforms supported it upon release, while Space Man wasn’t until May. The success of 2022 sparked people’s curiosity to listen whether they liked or hated it and it had a prime TV feature. I'm unsure of its streaming performance in the UK, but it hasn't been certified yet, suggesting it may not be that popular.
Posted by: ___∆___ 1st October 2023, 10:44 AM
Never seen so many social media ads for an album - literally constantly on Insta, FB etc.,
The predictions for this seem to be between Top 20 to Top 100! Really hope it at least manages Top 40 but I’m not overly confident now
Posted by: Megan_x 1st October 2023, 11:32 AM
It’s hopeless. Her team need to get out of bed and do something!
It’s even more hopeless that she cannot add more signings. Where are her fans?
Reduce it more but if all else fails just get on insta live and cry and beg until people buy it.
I want her to do well for for Eurovision but she will be lucky to get 100 extra sales on top of her pre-orders/signings at this rate.
Posted by: ___∆___ 1st October 2023, 11:36 AM
^^ agree, her team have let her down on this - firstly it’s far too expensive (the vinyl was nearly £30 until they reduced it to £25 - but still not a great price especially for a debut release).
They should’ve chucked signed CDs on Amazon, done daily signings etc., - Mae’s trying on socials but seems to be pushing people towards downloading on iTunes.
They need to create some fan buzz and get Mae in any indie that will have her in for a signing - could make all the difference between #30 or #98!
Posted by: JackTheeStallion 1st October 2023, 11:41 AM
Maybe I'm being delulu but I don't think it's going to do as bad as some think, I could see low Top 10
Posted by: Voodoo 1st October 2023, 11:49 AM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Oct 1 2023, 02:32 PM)
if all else fails just get on insta live and cry and beg until people buy it.
Well, it definitely worked for Freya Ridings.
Posted by: ___∆___ 1st October 2023, 11:51 AM
QUOTE(JackTheeStallion @ Oct 1 2023, 12:41 PM)
Maybe I'm being delulu but I don't think it's going to do as bad as some think, I could see low Top 10
That was what I was predicting initially now I’m not convinced - it just seems a bit flat for release week?
Posted by: Davidson 1st October 2023, 12:13 PM
The first day Spotify streams are tragic. All the new songs were streamed around 5,000-9,000 times. ‘Nervous’ managed 72,000 due to being on NMF but the rest has really tragic numbers.
I feel for her.
Posted by: ___∆___ 1st October 2023, 12:48 PM
Those streaming numbers - so it’s going to be solely reliant on physical sales this week then, also looking at her socials, engagement seems quite low too, poor Mae.
Posted by: conorw 1st October 2023, 01:17 PM
QUOTE(JackTheeStallion @ Oct 1 2023, 12:41 PM)
Maybe I'm being delulu but I don't think it's going to do as bad as some think, I could see low Top 10
No honestly same I thought she’d make top 20 lowest, probably top 10. Idk I feel like thete are enough people to buy it that it’ll do alroght
Posted by: Megan_x 1st October 2023, 01:21 PM
I hoped she could have sold 4K-5K which would be reasonable for a debut but it’s strange that she could barely sell out 5 tiny venues for her signings. It’s only Sunday but now isn’t the time to be sleeping.
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st October 2023, 01:25 PM
I don't really know what to expect from her physical sales but I had extremely low streaming expectations so those numbers haven't surprised me at all. She wasn't a big artist before Eurovision, and I Wrote a Song wasn't big enough to change that much, certainly five months on from the contest where, it's safe to say, she was no Sam Ryder success. Any interest in Mae is likely very UK-centric as well which will have an impact on how high her streams will go.
I don't think her team have done a bad job though. Graham Norton is one of the best promo slots around, she's done a series of signing events (them happening pre-release won't affect that when a pre-order is required for entry), there are adverts on social media and around London. There's not much more they can do other than a few daytime TV interviews over the week. The only other big promo performance slot around is Strictly, and Jorja Smith nabbed this week's slot with her album also out this week.
Price reductions may come later in the week, there's plenty of time to see how her team react if it's not performing all that well.
Posted by: conorw 1st October 2023, 01:41 PM
I must be in a minority because I’m loving this album!
Posted by: Megan_x 1st October 2023, 02:02 PM
Mae posted she purchased 3 copies of her album so that is progress!
Posted by: Moby Dick 1st October 2023, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Sep 30 2023, 08:42 PM)
It obviously wasn't "universally quite hated" otherwise it wouldn't have gone top 10.
Yes, ir was. I told y'all it was awful and embarrassing and that she couldn't sing, but noo, she was gonna win
Posted by: ___∆___ 1st October 2023, 02:11 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Oct 1 2023, 03:02 PM)
Mae posted she purchased 3 copies of her album so that is progress!
I saw that - queen of multi buying her own album
Looks like she’s in Fopp in Covent Garden so hopefully she’s whipped her sharpie out and signed all their other copies.
Posted by: Jessie Where 1st October 2023, 02:12 PM
I don't think ANYBODY thought she was gonna win it, c'mon.
I don't believe the song was "universally hated" either, although she did totally flunk the performance on the night.
Posted by: Moby Dick 1st October 2023, 02:20 PM
QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Oct 1 2023, 03:12 PM)
I don't think ANYBODY thought she was gonna win it, c'mon.
I don't believe the song was "universally hated" either, although she did totally flunk the performance on the night.
Check the pre-Eurovision thread on here!! There were people literally claiming that, thanks to being 25th, she had a goof chance at winning, depending on the prrformance!! I laughed snd got told to shut it
Posted by: Megan_x 1st October 2023, 02:27 PM
QUOTE(Moby Dick @ Oct 1 2023, 03:20 PM)
Check the pre-Eurovision thread on here!! There were people literally claiming that, thanks to being 25th, she had a goof chance at winning, depending on the prrformance!! I laughed snd got told to shut it
I said she would finish bottom 5 from the moment I heard the song on TikTok but people on Twitter just called me a hater.
Posted by: LMFan 1st October 2023, 02:51 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Oct 1 2023, 03:27 PM)
I said she would finish bottom 5 from the moment I heard the song on TikTok but people on Twitter just called me a hater.
Me too! My brother was furious I was suggesting bottom 5. His delusion always takes over every year.
Posted by: Moby Dick 1st October 2023, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Oct 1 2023, 03:27 PM)
I said she would finish bottom 5 from the moment I heard the song on TikTok but people on Twitter just called me a hater.
Right!!! They said the same to me I wasn't so kind - I said nil points
Posted by: Jessie Where 1st October 2023, 03:42 PM
QUOTE(Moby Dick @ Oct 1 2023, 03:20 PM)
Check the pre-Eurovision thread on here!! There were people literally claiming that, thanks to being 25th, she had a goof chance at winning, depending on the prrformance!! I laughed snd got told to shut it
Just went to the liberty of checking the thread and (surprise surprise), you've made it up.
Especially as she was actually performing last and the consensus is that's the worst possible slot you can get anyway.
Posted by: Moby Dick 1st October 2023, 03:55 PM
QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Oct 1 2023, 04:42 PM)
Just went to the liberty of checking the thread and (surprise surprise), you've made it up.
Especially as she was actually performing last and the consensus is that's the worst possible slot you can get anyway.
Wrong!! I'll quote some later
Posted by: Yobnedor 1st October 2023, 03:58 PM
Posted by: JosephStyles 1st October 2023, 04:00 PM
Just finished the album and I think it's actually pretty solid. It's a bit "Anne-Marie reject" in certain parts but there's some strong tracks on there, it would make a really strong 12 track album I think.
Posted by: Yobnedor 1st October 2023, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Oct 1 2023, 05:00 PM)
Just finished the album and I think it's actually pretty solid. It's a bit "Anne-Marie reject" in certain parts but there's some strong tracks on there, it would make a really strong 12 track album I think.
Agreed!
Posted by: Moby Dick 1st October 2023, 05:47 PM
QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Oct 1 2023, 04:42 PM)
Just went to the liberty of checking the thread and (surprise surprise), you've made it up.
Especially as she was actually performing last and the consensus is that's the worst possible slot you can get anyway.
This is one of MANY:
QUOTE(Silas @ May 12 2023, 11:18 AM)
I’m sad because that just guts Austrias deserved placing and overinflates Croatia to a place it has no business being. I think Israel are a threat from there and if Mae pulls off a great jury and great final vocal then weirdly the UK is also a potential threat - but that hinges entirely on Maes vocals.
Posted by: Silas 2nd October 2023, 06:15 AM
Potential threat =/= good chance of winning
Don’t try and put words in my mouth because you ran yours and can’t back it up
Posted by: Mangø 2nd October 2023, 10:34 AM
Just gave this album a listen and I don't think I'll be returning. So much potential and the opening track sounded really promising but then, singles aside, nothing else stood out. 'Written By A Woman' is pretty good so I'm disappointed nothing else came close to being as good as that!
Posted by: ___∆___ 2nd October 2023, 03:05 PM
Just seen the mids and it ain’t pretty
Posted by: ___∆___ 2nd October 2023, 03:24 PM
They’ve just reduced the cassettes further to £5 - https://shop.maemuller.com/
Posted by: Megan_x 2nd October 2023, 03:29 PM
I haven’t seen anything but I hope it’s not that bad because I can’t be dealing with the “EuRoViSiOn kILls cArEerS” takes from her stans.
Posted by: gooddelta 2nd October 2023, 03:43 PM
Indeed. And I can just see the papers salivating at a bad placing for the album and the return of the stupid Eurovision is a curse discourse.
I haven't listened to the album yet but I did buy it in HMV the other day, they only had one copy in and after much searching of new release and A-Z racks I finally found it hidden in the wrong place. So it hasn't exactly had major exposure by the biggest/only major physical record chain in the country.
Posted by: Jessie Where 2nd October 2023, 03:56 PM
#33 in the midweeks
Posted by: Davidson 2nd October 2023, 03:58 PM
QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Oct 2 2023, 04:56 PM)
#33 in the midweeks
To be fair... that is what I expected.
James Blake debuted at #30 in the Monday midweeks last week though and he charted outside the top 100 so I think this could easily happen for Mae.
Posted by: ___∆___ 2nd October 2023, 03:59 PM
QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Oct 2 2023, 04:56 PM)
#33 in the midweeks
With 1,180 sales
Posted by: Lukuzz 2nd October 2023, 03:59 PM
Jeez that’s bad, was hoping she’d at least be safe for a Top 40
Posted by: ___∆___ 2nd October 2023, 04:01 PM
Poor Mae - the media will be out for her as a Eurovision/career flop, and I doubt her label will be keen to continue backing if it doesn’t recover (which as we know is almost an impossibility).
Posted by: gooddelta 2nd October 2023, 04:12 PM
I feel for her as everyone will have expected more due to the platform she's had this year but I don't think a Mae Muller album was ever going to be a raging success, whatever the circumstance. If anything, Eurovision will probably help her to achieve a top 75 album that she wouldn't have otherwise had.
Gen Z British artists like Mae tend to do well with individual songs over time and have slow burn but eventually quite impressive streaming numbers - she has 4.8 million listeners on Spotify which is actually almost triple what Sam Ryder has. I guess you've got the likes of Maisie Peters, Beabadoobee and dodie who have had big (albeit one week wonder) albums, but many Gen Z streaming friendly artists that release albums don't even trouble the top 75.
Posted by: Rough_edges 2nd October 2023, 04:23 PM
QUOTE(gooddelta @ Oct 2 2023, 05:12 PM)
I feel for her as everyone will have expected more due to the platform she's had this year but I don't think a Mae Muller album was ever going to be a raging success, whatever the circumstance. If anything, Eurovision will probably help her to achieve a top 75 album that she wouldn't have otherwise had.
Gen Z British artists like Mae tend to do well with individual songs over time and have slow burn but eventually quite impressive streaming numbers - she has 4.8 million listeners on Spotify which is actually almost triple what Sam Ryder has. I guess you've got the likes of Maisie Peters, Beabadoobee and dodie who have had big (albeit one week wonder) albums, but many Gen Z streaming friendly artists that release albums don't even trouble the top 75.
Almost all of them 4.8 million listeners would be from Better Days I'd imagine without her involvement in that she would probably be under 1 million
Posted by: Brer 2nd October 2023, 04:23 PM
QUOTE(Davidson @ Oct 2 2023, 04:58 PM)
To be fair... that is what I expected.
James Blake debuted at #30 in the Monday midweeks last week though and he charted outside the top 100 so I think this could easily happen for Mae.
I'd expect Mae will hold better than James Blake - his album was released 2 weeks earlier on streaming/download so the midweek entry last week was just the belated physical release and very minimal 3rd week streams. Still, probably quite likely to drop to the lower end of the top 100.
I think Rich is right, a Mae Muller album was simply never going to be a major prospect for the chart no matter what, it probably wouldn't even have made the midweek chart without Eurovision.
Posted by: gooddelta 2nd October 2023, 04:40 PM
QUOTE(Rough_edges @ Oct 2 2023, 05:23 PM)
Almost all of them 4.8 million listeners would be from Better Days I'd imagine without her involvement in that she would probably be under 1 million
True, the dance features have helped her but some of her other songs have streamed quite well on Spotify - 20 million streams for I Wrote A Song is better than most of our Eurovision entries (Sam excepted), and a few of her earlier singles have solid streams like Therapist (21 million) - she's not done badly for herself with her own songs. Certainly as well as many of her contemporaries. It seems to me that artists like Mae tend to do better with singles - often over a long period of time rather than big concentrated sales - than albums for whatever reason.
I tend to think of artists like Slayyyter last week, big and well known online, do pretty well on streaming, but her album was never going to do anything commercially in week one. Mae has had a lot more expectation on her than other similar artists due to Eurovision, which is probably to be expected after Måneskin and Sam's successes, but this kind of Gen Z Spotify pop style of music and artist just so rarely sells albums.
Posted by: Rough_edges 2nd October 2023, 04:42 PM
It's a shame as she really deserves a lot more, the songs are just absolute diabolical and the lyrics even worse. There is absolutely no market for her with this output
Posted by: _Clo_ 2nd October 2023, 05:00 PM
Realistically, Mae's team invested heavily in her Eurovision participation, hoping to boost her career after the contest. Her album sales were destined to be low. Her fanbase is small, her tour was cancelled and her signing venues were downsized. The British public embraces success, as evidenced by Sam Ryder and the Women's World Cup, but they perceive Mae to have let the country down.
The success of Sam may have lured Mae's team, but they should have been more realistic after she finished 25th. The label's marketing costs will surely exceed her album sales.
Posted by: Lunar 2nd October 2023, 05:09 PM
Ahhh such a shame as I actually thought the the album was pretty decent!
Have just bought the cassette bundle to help out. She's also doing personalised copies that are shipping tomorrow, hope that can help at least a tiny bit?
Posted by: Megan_x 2nd October 2023, 05:34 PM
She is doing a Rita Ora and telling everyone she’s #19 atm and hopes to get top 10.
Posted by: ___∆___ 2nd October 2023, 05:42 PM
QUOTE(Megan_x @ Oct 2 2023, 06:34 PM)
She is doing a Rita Ora and telling everyone she’s #19 atm and hopes to get top 10.
Why the lies
Surely it’s better to say I’m #33 and gonna tank if you lot don’t buy and stream!
Posted by: Davidson 2nd October 2023, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Oct 2 2023, 04:59 PM)
With 1,180 sales
If these are the sales so far, I reckon she will end the week at between 1,700 to 1,800. Streaming won’t add basically anything as it’s so low and I feel like most of the rest of the sales this week will come from the signed copies about to get sent out tomorrow.
If she does that kind of number it would have reached somewhere between #75 - #90 on last weeks album chart. That is what I’m expecting now.
Posted by: Brer 2nd October 2023, 05:48 PM
#19 was probably her position in the Sunday mids?
Posted by: Jessie Where 2nd October 2023, 06:00 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Oct 2 2023, 06:42 PM)
Why the lies
Surely it’s better to say I’m #33 and gonna tank if you lot don’t buy and stream!
I think the most likely scenario is someone in her team has lied to her and she hasn't looked herself.
Or they've told her the sales chart position or something?
Posted by: Rough_edges 2nd October 2023, 06:21 PM
Album sales are so poor in general to the point she gas currently sold the same amount of number of people who went to my school.
Posted by: ___∆___ 2nd October 2023, 07:57 PM
Banquet personally signed being done tomorrow - have no idea of the impact of these but could add 100+?
Cassettes down to a fiver on her store... I think I'll do my bit to help her out.
Posted by: ___∆___ 2nd October 2023, 09:15 PM
QUOTE(FezVez @ Oct 2 2023, 09:50 PM)
Cassettes down to a fiver on her store... I think I'll do my bit to help her out.
Same - I ordered a signed CD from Banquet and the 3 x cassette bundle from her store
Posted by: Padamic Tension 2nd October 2023, 09:28 PM
QUOTE(Lukuzz @ Oct 2 2023, 04:59 PM)
Jeez that’s bad, was hoping she’d at least be safe for a Top 40
i thought the same.
Posted by: gooddelta 3rd October 2023, 03:53 PM
So I've listened to this now and sadly only liked Nervous (In A Good Way) and Miss America enough of the new songs to add to my playlist.
There's some very solid singles on there and I'd probably take away a very good 6/7 track EP from it - I Wrote A Song, Me Myself & I, MTJL, Written By A Woman, the two I mentioned and maybe Sorry Daniel. But it's padded out so much.
Posted by: _Clo_ 4th October 2023, 02:16 PM
Mae pleaded for people to download her album on iTunes, but it's unclear if that strategy will work, as it’s fallen to #24. However, she signed about 100 copies yesterday and more on Thursday, which will boost her sales and may help her scrape into the top 75.
Posted by: Voodoo 4th October 2023, 02:20 PM
There's no way she will get to keep her record deal with Capitol. She isn't a Bebe Rexha whose albums flop yet still manages to score worldwide hits sometimes.
Posted by: ___∆___ 4th October 2023, 04:07 PM
Download reduced to £4.99 on iTunes now and currently #4 (Andrew Cushin done the same and is #1).
Posted by: ___∆___ 4th October 2023, 04:09 PM
https://ibb.co/Y3ds0Tv
Posted by: Davidson 4th October 2023, 04:43 PM
#26 in todays midweeks - up from #33 on Monday.
Signed copies definitely helping… maybe this can manage a top 40 place afterall? I’m predicting a top 50/60 is more likely though.
Posted by: Megan_x 4th October 2023, 05:53 PM
I’ve seen so many people saying they are buying it out of pity that I figure she will be fine! I hoped it wouldn’t flop for attracting future Eurovision artists cause it won’t be long until they start looking. She’s doing some more personal singings tomorrow so that will be good. I hope she can at least breaks 2500 sales.
Posted by: Voodoo 4th October 2023, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(___∆___ @ Oct 4 2023, 07:09 PM)
https://ibb.co/Y3ds0Tv
Is the OCC fine with it? I thought it was illegal according to chart rules.
Posted by: k👠th 4th October 2023, 06:20 PM
QUOTE(Voodoo @ Oct 4 2023, 04:20 PM)
There's no way she will get to keep her record deal with Capitol. She isn't a Bebe Rexha whose albums flop yet still manages to score worldwide hits sometimes.
Bebe will keep pushing no matter what!
Posted by: Lukuzz 4th October 2023, 08:22 PM
She’s upto number 3 on itunes
Hope she does manage top 40 !
Posted by: ___∆___ 5th October 2023, 12:09 AM
QUOTE(Voodoo @ Oct 4 2023, 06:59 PM)
Is the OCC fine with it? I thought it was illegal according to chart rules.
First thing I thought when I saw it - I’m sure The Lottery Winners tried something similar and quickly had to apologise and withdraw the offer.
Anyway I’ve just ordered 2 x personally signed CDs for friends from Banquet, I so want Mae to hold on to the Top 40 on Friday!
Posted by: ___∆___ 5th October 2023, 10:39 AM
She’s back at Banquet now and pushing the signed versions and #1 and #35 on iTunes - hopefully safe for a Top 40 now which is a great outcome compared to the first mids.
Posted by: _Clo_ 6th October 2023, 08:45 AM
Fingers crossed for Mae today, I hope she secures a top 20 placing (optimistic, but hey, stranger things have happened!)
Posted by: Lukuzz 6th October 2023, 04:54 PM
33 Officially! congratulations on a top 40 Mae!
Posted by: ___∆___ 6th October 2023, 05:44 PM
Pleased it’s gone Top 40 both for Mae and for artists considering ESC - she’s achieved a Top 10 single and Top 40 album off the back of it (none of which appeared to be forthcoming prior to ESC!).
Posted by: Yobnedor 7th October 2023, 09:01 AM
Fair play, she worked hard for that Top 40 placement!
Posted by: conorw 7th October 2023, 10:07 AM
Very happy for her making top 40 in the end!
Posted by: Anita Hanjaab 12th January 2024, 12:21 AM
She's quit music.
Posted by: conorw 12th January 2024, 01:33 AM
It sounds more like she’s stepping back from actively releasing on her post to me. I reckon it’ll be a bit of an extended break as opposed to quitting for good (which she never mentioned in her post)
Posted by: Rob 12th January 2024, 11:57 AM
Strange to make those posts when she's just dropped a new song today.
Posted by: gooddelta 12th January 2024, 12:06 PM
Sounds like the Eurovision experience likely affected her, among other things (the pressure to get chart hits really gets to a lot of artists and I get that). From her posts last year and seeing her at events, she seemed to enjoy the build-up and the contest itself, but I expect the trauma of the result itself and then the heave required to get the album top 40 paid their toll.
I still really like her and a Eurovision result is really only one barometer of success. It still was a UK top ten and has well over 20 million streams on Spotify, so I expect there are a lot of other contributing factors. I don't think people do necessarily think of her as a Eurovision flop in quite the same way as the likes of James Newman and Jemini, as she was the home turf entry and it was a popular song commercially and all over the radio. There does seem to be more sympathy to her result than with other UK artists.
Posted by: Chloe🎄 12th January 2024, 02:54 PM
Mae said on her live stream that she is no longer with her management or record label.
Posted by: pippa 15th January 2024, 12:34 AM
I hope she gets the opportunity for releases in the future.
Posted by: ___∆___ 7th May 2024, 02:21 PM
Not surprised by this and everyone should be able to speak their truth but always find it disappointing when artists discredit their Eurovision experience afterwards as I’m never convinced had she won or done better that she would be saying the same.
Off the back of Eurovision she got a Top 10 silver selling single and Top 40 album, I’m not convinced we’d have seen either without ESC.
Hopefully she finds herself and the music she wants to make though and can have her ‘Raye’ moment.
QUOTE
Mae Muller claims her former record label pushed her to do 'traumatic' Eurovision song contest which made her lose 'authenticity' as she goes independent to 'get back to being me'
I do find a lot of the album better than I Wrote A Song and do wonder if she would have chose it as a single if Eurovision wasn’t in mind. Having said that, it has given her a hit that is clearly still getting some streams by it getting certified last week.
Whatever comes next, I hope she continues with pop.
Posted by: darrens94 8th May 2024, 07:36 AM
I imagine if ‘I Wrote A Song’ racked up the points last year her authentic self would be out the window and Eurovision would have been the best experience of her life.
Posted by: Jessie Where 8th May 2024, 09:00 AM
I mean, I sort of get it and I think the whole experience has left her traumatised. I feel pretty bad for her really.
Posted by: ___∆___ 8th May 2024, 09:42 AM
QUOTE(darrens94 @ 8th May 2024, 08:36 AM)
I imagine if ‘I Wrote A Song’ racked up the points last year her authentic self would be out the window and Eurovision would have been the best experience of her life.
This, I get overall it might not have been the best decision for her in hindsight but she grabbed the opportunity and got more promo and exposure in 3 months than in the previous 3 years.
And that’s what always gets me a bit - if she’d have come out of the show and had the same level of success as Sam I’m not convinced we’d be getting the comments she made.
She also said on her live that she disliked ‘Better Days’ (Her only other Top 40) so guessing we’re going to get a totally different sound/direction from her.
She’s really likeable and I bought her album so I hope she is able to salvage something from it all.
Posted by: Crown_The_Witch. 8th May 2024, 11:02 PM
I think she was banking on a result similar to Sam Ryder and not the result she got which I know would have to be disheartening but had it gone that way I think she would not be saying this.
I am intrigued to see if she can bring the bops though. Not heard the dance one that's top 100 atm.
Her album launch at G-A-Y on 16/09 is only £5 on the door so no album purchase required for that either. 
the last two have been average duds which is a shame as I really love her as a person!
