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post 23rd February 2010, 03:51 PM
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Keisha replied to a fan who asked about them reforming on twitter and she said "Never say Never"

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post 23rd February 2010, 04:01 PM
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Oh no. I loved Sugababes 1.0. One Touch is one of my favourite Sugababes albums, but I'm not looking forward to a reunion. That'll only bring more haters to the Sugababes and alot of Suga 4.0 loons will hate the Saltybitches (let's just assume the new 1.0 will call themselves Saltybitches.)

But I predict a flopping Keisha and then she will probably turn to Siobhan and Mutya.
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post 23rd February 2010, 08:42 PM
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It would be great to see the original Sugababes reform, but I would like to see how Keisha does solo first. tongue.gif
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post 25th February 2010, 03:00 PM
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I would just like to say that Heidi may aswel be an original. After The sugababes first album One Touch, London Records dropped the band because only 1 single out of 4 that were released only made top 10. Overload-6, New Year-12, Run for Cover-13, Soul Sound-30. The band only started getting real success when Heidi Joined the band and the were signed to Island/Universal

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post 25th February 2010, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(AV102 @ Feb 25 2010, 03:00 PM) *
I would just like to say that Heidi may aswel be an original. After The sugababes first album One Touch, London Records dropped the band because only 1 single out of 4 that were released only made top 10. Overload-6, New Year-12, Run for Cover-13, Soul Sound-30. The band only started getting real success when Heidi Joined the band and the were signed to Island/Universal


Oh snap! But it does really need to be put to rest now though laugh.gif
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post 25th February 2010, 03:46 PM
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Ok just said i would mention it haha
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post 26th February 2010, 10:37 AM
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And what? All of the ORIGINALS hard work in getting the group on its' feet, the critical acclaim they received and everything else they achieved should be ignored?

Heidi didn't help create the group. She joined on their second album thus she isn't an original. Just because she was there when they exploded (and to be honest, it could have been any girl. The material/production was much more mainstream) doesn't give her (or anyone) the right to discredit Siobhan and everything she brought to the table, because if it wasn't for her Heidi wouldn't have had a group to join in the first place!
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post 26th February 2010, 02:59 PM
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1.0 didn't get any critical acclaim other than Overload and they didn't write. Also they were put together. You also can't say Heidi could of been any girl 'cus she wasn't and she was one of reasons they became massive
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post 26th February 2010, 03:10 PM
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''They didn't write''? Excusez-moi. They wrote or co-wrote 9 songs on One Touch. That is alot more than the Sugababes are writing nowadays.
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post 26th February 2010, 03:11 PM
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Also they got great critical acclaim. (Maybe you oughta do a little more research).

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post 26th February 2010, 03:14 PM
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I think he was saying they didn't write Overload.

TBH i don't know why people say Heidi is an original. IMO she is more of a Sugababe than Siobhan and Mutya though but she isn't an original.
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post 26th February 2010, 03:16 PM
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Yes they did. They were often praised by critics for their lyrics, vocal performances - both live and in studio and the album - for the most part - gained good reviews. And um, they wrote the majority of their album. WTF?

And as for Heidi being one of the reasons they blew up - please. You think everyone said "Wow. I have to go out and buy this song because of this new unknown girl that has just joined"? Yeah, right. No one knew who the hell she was and she sure as hell didn't help them explode because of her fantastic vocals. The reason they blew up was because they had better material + better promotion aswell as timing and a better team of people behind them. Like I said, it could have been any girl singing on "Freak Like Me" and that song STILL would have shot to number one.


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post 26th February 2010, 03:39 PM
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Even though New Year and Run For Cover missed the top 10 they still had pretty decent sales for the positions they acheived, last i saw New Year had done 75k and RFC 58k, but i imagine both totals have increased since then. Also didnt Run For Cover give the album a second wind of sales?
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post 26th February 2010, 03:54 PM
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Ok where are these critically aclaimed reviews? I've looked and couldn't find them, I thought 1.0 were great but I hate it when people keep bringing up $h!t that 1.0 were so critacally acclaimed.
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post 26th February 2010, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(ms09 @ Feb 26 2010, 03:54 PM) *
Ok where are these critically aclaimed reviews? I've looked and couldn't find them, I thought 1.0 were great but I hate it when people keep bringing up $h!t that 1.0 were so critacally acclaimed.


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Further proof that the major labels think American kids are stupid: The Sugababes debut album arrives on these shores with dubiously glossed-up cover art and a drastic MTV make-over for the unusually credible teenage threesome. Never mind, the music on One Touch still remains vital and raw; like a downtown version of TLC or All Saints without the gargantuan studio budget. Lead-off track "Overload" is a pulsating, cool-headed R&B concoction, while the title track sounds more deep, down and dirty than anything that has appeared on pop radio in recent memory. Scour the import bins for the original unfiltered version. Other girl groups will look utterly lightweight in comparison.
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Great pop is all in the detail. A great hook, a great look and a great gimmick can all help, but at the end of the day the difference between great pop and the seemingly endless pop conveyor belt of Record Co. Inc. in West London is an elusive thing? Great pop is harder to make than great rock, great indie, great dance... great anything, but when Sugababes sulked on to Saturday morning kids TV a few months ago with the 'no-smiles, no dancing, no-smiling, no sh*t' non-performance that was 'Overload', the birth of an important pop band was posted in all the right places.

Siobhan, Mutya and Keisha - a great hand in a game of Scrabble - are a pop trio so young that bumping into label-mates All Saints at London Records must be like bumping into your mum down the shops on Saturday morning when you're with your mates. The music? Oh the music is just magnificent. Sugababes sing like angels - angels who've earned their wings listening to TLC and SWV not the Spice Girls.

'Overload' was the most extraordinary debut pop single since Fine Young Cannibal's 'Johnny Come Home' - a twisted, pumped up stripped down pop song thats attention to detail - the now obligatory sound of a dust-laden stylus, the bass note rising on the intro as the snare kicks in, the bonkers guitar solo and the angst ridden tale of school girl lust - marked it out as the year's most original pop hit single by a city mile.

And there's plenty more where that came from. Using a backing band who appreciate that an acoustic guitar will always be more effective than a Vocoder, that jazz chords compliment sweet vocals - especially so when they are this sweet - 'One Touch' will terrify the competition. The fact that this is only stage one in the trio's plan for pop world domination makes it doubly impressive.

By the time the acoustic latin thrum of 'Just Let It Go', which puts Craig David's own impressive unplugged performances of 'Seven Days' to shame, grinds itself into your brain, it's clear that these girls aren't looking to usurp Atomic Kitten or S Club 7. Hell, they've got TLC at their best in their sights and nothing less will do. Gotcha.

'Look At Me' will probably be the last time Sugababes can claim to be daddy's little girls - a sweet anthem to a life they are already fast leaving behind, while 'One Touch' arrives courtesy of the coolest jazz guitar intro of the new millennium and a call to kick off the past and move on up - brilliant, smouldering stuff.

If it's more straight ahead funky soul you're after then we got that too. 'Real Thing' harks back to classic 80s jazz funk and leads us neatly into 'Overload''s follow up, and the very the seasonal 'New Year'. Not as wired or skewed as the debut, but amusingly adding that old stylus again, this sweet Xmas single simply shows how well these girls can sing - not shout, not dance - sing. It won't knock Westlife off top spot at the end of December but it shows they can compete on more than one level.

'One Touch' is being released very early on in Sugababes' career. Chances are some of you out there still haven't heard much of the girls. You will. At the risk of giving them the musical equivalent of shin-splints by putting them in the first team too early, this record announces the arrival of potentially one of the most important new groups for many years. If they carry on singing this well, we'll even forgive them for not talking to us!



And that's just two in the space of five minutes. You didn't look hard.
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post 26th February 2010, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(AV102 @ Feb 25 2010, 03:00 PM) *
I would just like to say that Heidi may aswel be an original. After The sugababes first album One Touch, London Records dropped the band because only 1 single out of 4 that were released only made top 10. Overload-6, New Year-12, Run for Cover-13, Soul Sound-30. The band only started getting real success when Heidi Joined the band and the were signed to Island/Universal

Couple of things, we have a pinned thread for singles so everyone here is well aware of how the One Touch era went.

Next, the band got a brit nomination for Overload, despite it's missing the top5.

London Records dropped them because the album did poorly, not the singles

[Someone mentioned the albums second wind] It came after the Brit nomination and around the time of RFC a double whamy lifting it to a new peak position.

The band had success when Heidi joined because Freak was a f***ing amazing song. Anyone would have had a hit with it. Everything about it was amazing and why they need to work with Richard X again [well 1.0 should when they comeback]

They were amazingly critically acclaimed. Most journalists were stunned that they were a pop group that could actually sing live. Their non-stage schooled style was also praised as well as the amazingly raw music. Writing 9/12 track on your debut when your 14/15 is a f***ing amazing feat.

The girls were not thrown together, i don't know what trash you've been reading, perhaps the GA loon version of events. Siobhan's manager [who became the babes first manager] met Mutya's dad in a supermarket, somehow the conversation turned to singing. Mutya's dad quite rightly mentioned his daughters f***ing sublime vocals and RonTom mentioned Siobhan. There was a meeting of the minds and the two girls started to record in a studio. Sugababes 1.0Beta was formed. They thought there was something, or rather someone missing. One day when Mutya brought her best mate Keisha to the studio with her she was asked if she could sing, she said yeah. Sang something [i can't remember what] and wowed them. Sugababes 1.0 was born rather naturally. This was in 1998 when the girls were just at high school. They spent two years writing and recording [Recording at first, they got signed by London, then they decided they wanted to write] and released Overload in late 2000.


I hate when people down play Mutya's and Siobhan's involvement in the band. Without either of them the ENTIRE band would not exist. It was Shiv's manager and Mutya's dad that kickstarted the band. They both play a hugely important role in the bands history. Heidi never will be an original babe and she should get over that fact. I may have fallen in love with 2.0 but that doesn't make her an original nor does it take away siobhans hugely important contribution.
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post 26th February 2010, 05:11 PM
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^ Excellent post, Silas.

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post 26th February 2010, 06:14 PM
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Yes, excellent post.

You're making me miss Sugababes 1.0 even more. Having them back now wouldn't be the same though. I wish Keisha good luck on her solo career.
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post 26th February 2010, 06:30 PM
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3.0 got were also critically acclaimed for their live performances. Also that review is one review from Yahoo music. 1.0 did get critical acclaim for their live performance but many thought their songs weren't overy amaaing

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post 26th February 2010, 06:39 PM
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OK, well this is what the sticker on my CDcase of OT says

''An irresistable R&B/Pop crossover that bristles with class, it's (yeah that typo is really on the sticker) looped beats and soulful vocals unlike anything in recent memory'' NME
''A debut album of a class beyond their years'' Time Out
''A Fantastic album... with enough style, attitude and originality to mesmerise us all'' The Guardian
''The classiest new pop act of the year'' Music Week

And I would like to use this opportunity to ask you guys what 'Lush Life' means. It's my favorite song from the album (well, I like One Foot In equally) and I never figured out what it really means (i'm Dutch).


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