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post 8th December 2011, 07:49 PM
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I think there's no doubt in my mind that this tour will bring in more revenue compared to their LP sales.

Tickets from £20 - £30+ (?), and there was the VIP tickets, £100. Compare that to £8.99 at around 27,000 sales. I'm right in thinking that around 27,000 people are attending the tour based on the information regarding 'sell outs' from picture proof, and information regarding venue capacity?

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I can't believe people think they should attempt to 'break America' or even Europe. They haven't even broken the UK!!!


I agree, and they know it. Frankie said a few months ago that although they want to brake Europe first, she acknowledged that they needed to break the UK first.
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post 8th December 2011, 07:55 PM
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Thing is, you don't need to actually travel outside the UK to chart in other countries. I think the likes of Alexandra Burke, Ed Sheeran, Plan B, Example, The Wanted and One Direction all charted in other countries without promotion. I know it's not as simple as this, but can't they just send their songs to radio and music channels?
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post 8th December 2011, 08:02 PM
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I hate to nitpick but Ed Sheeran performed on Aussie XF tongue.gif He get top 10 before that though iirc, then again I just can't see The Sats doing it even WITH promo.
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post 8th December 2011, 08:06 PM
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The problem is The Saturdays were on a playschool record label with Fasanation, a label who just happened to have Girls Aloud fall into their laps. Outside of them they have had no artists with any major levels of sucsess, despite having artists who have massive sales in other countries on their label (being the home of Hollywood Records artists in the UK). As managment they are even worse, they are people who would rather be friends with famous singers and their famous friends than actualy be their bosses, as show in 24/7 their managment want to be their friends and hang out with them. It's a joke, yes you can be friends with your managment, but this just seems unatural.
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post 8th December 2011, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Martyn @ Dec 8 2011, 08:06 PM) *
The problem is The Saturdays were on a playschool record label with Fasanation, a label who just happened to have Girls Aloud fall into their laps. Outside of them they have had no artists with any major levels of sucsess, despite having artists who have massive sales in other countries on their label (being the home of Hollywood Records artists in the UK). As managment they are even worse, they are people who would rather be friends with famous singers and their famous friends than actualy be their bosses, as show in 24/7 their managment want to be their friends and hang out with them. It's a joke, yes you can be friends with your managment, but this just seems unatural.


I agree, it's always seemed to me that they only started the management group so they could have some bezzie showbiz friends. I mean they are the only high profile artist on their roster. They manage The Alias too which is why they collaborated for the LP and b-sides.
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post 9th December 2011, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(Slick @ Dec 8 2011, 04:32 PM) *
Touring also makes no money for the record company I believe...


Anyway, the label gives them the money to make the record and then they have to give it back, so they can take the money from the tour to cut any losses the album might have made.

I have no complains about the promotion the management get for them...I'm sure is the most they can do. My problem is that they don't know how to sell them: in Chasing Lights they were fun and elegant, in Wordshaker they were all mature and boring, in Headlines! they were suddenly all childish/fun and innocent, and now in OYR they are marketed as sexy and sophisticated, there is no cohesion through their campaigns.
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post 9th December 2011, 06:07 PM
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I despised their Wordshaker image. They were turned into right slappers. sad.gif







Didn't suit them at all.
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post 9th December 2011, 06:16 PM
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On your Radar exclusive limited edition has been reduced to £11.99
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post 9th December 2011, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Martyn @ Dec 8 2011, 02:34 PM) *
It looks fake to me... However I wouldn't want to say it deffinitly is.


Turned out it's a scan from the tourbook...so it's official! Seems weird that they keep talking about the US deal if it was only a fake story to make damage control about the splitting rumour...they must have something planned.

Although, like the supossed trip to Germany of last summer, nothing will happen if things don't work in the UK first (luckily, the tour seems to be doing fine, and an arena tour is nothing to laugh about).
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post 9th December 2011, 09:34 PM
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On your Radar exclusive limited edition has been reduced to £11.99


That's annoying, I wouldn't have paid £21 if I knew they were gonna knock the price right down!
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post 9th December 2011, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(The47thbelmon @ Dec 9 2011, 08:30 PM) *
Turned out it's a scan from the tourbook...so it's official! Seems weird that they keep talking about the US deal if it was only a fake story to make damage control about the splitting rumour...they must have something planned.

Although, like the supossed trip to Germany of last summer, nothing will happen if things don't work in the UK first (luckily, the tour seems to be doing fine, and an arena tour is nothing to laugh about).


That's a bit out of context if I'm being honest.

There was truth to the US 'deal' just not as big or extravagant as the press made it out to be. They confirmed that it was all still in "planning stages" and that it was an idea they've had for a while, and it's them putting the ideas forward as they don't just want it to be another reality series like 24/7 and What Goes on Tour.

And the Germany trip was going to plan. They flew out there a few times to talk to their German label (Una even took pictures as proof) but they later decided that they wanted to release the same track at the same time, as in new material at the same time; Not old material that's been round for a while. They may as well maximize potential by releasing a track no-one has yet rather than one that would have been out for nearly a year (Higher).
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post 9th December 2011, 09:56 PM
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Do you know what confuses me. When people copy and past there posts between here and popjustice. Confuses the hell out of me!
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post 10th December 2011, 03:17 AM
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Ugh at the fan edition being reduced. sad.gif Oh well.
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post 10th December 2011, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Martyn @ Dec 9 2011, 10:56 PM) *
Do you know what confuses me. When people copy and past there posts between here and popjustice. Confuses the hell out of me!


Haha, yeah, but I was going to say the very same thing anyway so...
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post 11th December 2011, 07:14 PM
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Album down to #75 today!
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post 11th December 2011, 07:16 PM
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That's good! Well it's not obviously, but you know what I mean - at least it's holding onto top 75 (even if only JUST).
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post 11th December 2011, 08:27 PM
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There's no promotion for On Your Radar, Single 4 needs to be sent to the radio stations now and they need to promote on some shows.
They could have done something simple like performing on T4 Stars, Text Santa (ITV) or something, I sometimes feel the management let them down majorly.
I just hate seeing such a good album having a poor chart run!
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post 11th December 2011, 08:49 PM
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Yes because they can do TV appearances whilst they're on tour. Be realistic.
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post 11th December 2011, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(2ndAdventure @ Dec 11 2011, 08:49 PM) *
Yes because they can do TV appearances whilst they're on tour. Be realistic.


Of course they can! The only realistic thing they need to do is soundcheck before the show.
They can do that around 5pm, so they have the whole rest of the day to promote, but instead they are 'resting'.
I mean, I know it takes a lot out of them to perform 90 minutes a night..

Look at Rihanna, who has done a lot (a LOT) more shows than them, and she at least did X Factor.
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post 11th December 2011, 08:59 PM
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^ It's the difference in work ethic and stars and a MEGA star. Thats why she is where she is. Simple. The Saturdays aren't serious lol
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