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26th December 2011, 02:19 PM
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IDK if anyones mentioned this but I heard 'Faster' played on Alan Carrs Radio 2 show on Christmas Eve (it's around the 48 min mark JSYK) Maybe it still is the 4th single? Its Still going to be a Single but apparently it has been pushed aside for the release of TWYWM |
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26th December 2011, 07:18 PM
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I would love for "Faster" to be a single but honestly I'm worried that a 4th single would completely flop and not even make top 20, which would probably be detrimental to them. They've never been a Girls Aloud where "every single MUST make the Top 10" sort of thing. They (thankfully) blew that with Work. I'm not saying that they have never been like "GET WORK TO #1" because, let's face it, they've been there. In those words actually! I don't think another single could resurrect the album as well as Issues did with Chasing Lights; But at the same time, look at what another single did for Chasing Lights, and Headlines. There's a certain confidence that there's a chance the album would stabilize I'd say. I've seen this said a lot on forums that because 'The Way You Watch Me' is sort of confirmed for the next single, that it will be a guaranteed radio smash because "It has Travie in it". I've always been under the impression that radio have never gone near him? Faster is the safest track that they could go with right now. It's very reminiscent of 'Up', 'Ego' and it ties in nicely with their new-found dance sound. |
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26th December 2011, 07:37 PM
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I've seen this said a lot on forums that because 'The Way You Watch Me' is sort of confirmed for the next single, that it will be a guaranteed radio smash because "It has Travie in it". I've always been under the impression that radio have never gone near him? Exactly! He's had one hit with Billionaire in his solo career, and arguably that was largely because it was just as Bruno Mars blew up but he had no solo singles out. The 2nd solo single he did absolutely TANKED, number 193 or something Even if you count him with Gym Class Heroes, they've had 4 'hits' (Cupid's Chokehold, Clothes Off, Cookie Jar and Stereo Hearts, which arguably was largely because of Adam Levine) and that's really it. He certainly isn't a cert to save the entire album of a struggling girlgroup just by having a featured rap. |
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27th December 2011, 09:04 PM
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As a fan of the sats who has the album I have to say that The way you watch me was by far my least favourite track, buuut it has grown on me A LOT, but they don't need a single that 'grows on' people, they need a single that is instantly catchy and people remember (á la Faster or Get Ready Get Set or even White Lies) especially considering this track needs to appeal to more casual listeners rather than fans who already have it on the album. I desperately want them to do well and salvage this era, but it doesn't seem likely to me ;( (on a brighter note I have a great tendency to be completely wrong with my instincts about impending success/failure)
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27th December 2011, 09:53 PM
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I am still annoyed they are only releasing one more single and moving on the next album? Why on earth are they doing this? It's obvious we're going to see their new single in August time, ala Missing You.
The thing is On Your Radar could still do well if it's promoted well! It's their own fault/management as On Your Radar/Tour could have did so much better with promotion, although saying that they did well considering people wouldn't go to see the same artists twice in the space of 10 months. This post has been edited by lee wallace: 27th December 2011, 09:54 PM |
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27th December 2011, 10:04 PM
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I think the whole 'winter chart battles & pregnancy & secret illness & arena tour & album & single' was just far too much for them to do all the necessary promotion for successes - but I totally agree that this is salvageable. Release The Way You Watch Me (with low expectations) and get it out of the way for one more single from this era. At least make it worth it before releasing the inevitable summer single that will lead to a new tour/album *hopefully not at xmas and not at the same time as each other!*
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27th December 2011, 10:18 PM
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I am still annoyed they are only releasing one more single and moving on the next album? Why on earth are they doing this? It's obvious we're going to see their new single in August time, ala Missing You. The thing is On Your Radar could still do well if it's promoted well! It's their own fault/management as On Your Radar/Tour could have did so much better with promotion, although saying that they did well considering people wouldn't go to see the same artists twice in the space of 10 months. We don't even know for sure if there's going to be another single or not. I'd like to think there is (infact I really want there to be a 4th single) but right now, it could be 'released' as late as February. Promotion will do nothing for On Your Radar now. Especially now the Christmas market has come to an end. The album will only start selling again when they inject some interest back into them by releasing another single. I don't know who's fault it is, but the last 2/3 months I imagine have been mental for them. Una pregnant and Frankie hospitalized; Juggle that with the promotional round they did with My Heart Takes Over, tour rehersals and the actual tour. |
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27th December 2011, 10:57 PM
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I actually have to commend them for doing all aforementioned, especially Una, which must have been tiring due to her pregnancy.
This is the one time, I think they actually do deserve a break. i imagine they have worked flat out for a few weeks, probably tour rehearsals in the day and then promotion in the evening (Children in Need for example) |
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27th December 2011, 11:03 PM
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Oh I definitely agree they deserve a break! Especially Frankie and Una who have obviously been going at 100mph despite illness/pregnancy! However I also want them to do something (<- read anything) to get the On Your Radar sales up to at least half of what they deserve to be. Especially considering All Fired Up was close to the top-50 and Notorious in the top-200 year end charts! one more awesome single could really help, then they can have a nice break before the fifth album
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28th December 2011, 04:16 PM
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The Chart Position On Your Radar fell to this week fustrates me!
From #85 Last week, They Fell to #101 on Sunday! |
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28th December 2011, 04:24 PM
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Does anyone remember when HMV posted the On Your Radar tracklisting before the official website did? They had White Lies as track 05 and Get Ready, Get Set as track 11. Makes me think that that was the original tracklisting. But because Get Ready Get Set was so 'new' to the girls as it was the last to be recorded for the album, it somewhat 'replaced' White Lies on the album and on tour, because they had White Lies since April and were probably bored of it. White Lies could be the song to save this album, I don't see it happening now because of it being shunned from the tour and the fact that it's very Una heavy. The latter is also why I think Get Ready Get Set won't in hell be the next single. I see them going for Faster, tbh. Which is still a great move!
Just a theory btw, idk. If that is the case, It angers me LOL! I stan for White Lies and I'm still bitter over it's exclusion from the tour, haha! This post has been edited by Steven.: 28th December 2011, 04:27 PM |
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28th December 2011, 05:29 PM
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^^ I think It was Play.com Steven, I remember posting it
But yeah the tracklist that we got after that had been re-shuffled . White Lies is never going to happen as a single for many reasons unfortunately. It's a shame because that track is 'classic' Saturdays sound. But I agree with you, Faster is the track that sticks out the most to be the next single, if there's one. |
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28th December 2011, 05:33 PM
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LMAO, well Play then! :L I was close enough, haha!
Yeah it is a pity about White Lies, guess I'll just have to get over it! Here's hoping they do go with Faster and it turns out to be some sort of success! |
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28th December 2011, 05:33 PM
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I'd say Faster really is the only option. As I said in my post a few posts up, TWYWM isn't as much of a guaranteed safe hit as people say, Travie solo isn't really a big name. I mean if they had Nicki Minaj or someone like that then yeah but Travie isn't going to save the whole campaign... Well nor is Faster but I believe it would go top 20 and that would honestly be an achievement for them right now!
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28th December 2011, 05:55 PM
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Yeah I agree. Does anyone think that Do What You Want With Me could have some success as a single or a 'promotional track' ? I think it's very current, more current that dance material they've done.
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28th December 2011, 06:19 PM
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Oh dear, it really seems like the only way to partially save this era would be to release Faster. It's not happening though, at least not as the next single, I had a feeling from the start that TWYWM would be released regardless of how well/badly the album did or how much the fans liked it solely because of the Travie inclusion. Hopefully they do well enough with it to release another single - which surely must be Faster?!
As for Do What You Want With Me I think it really could do wonders as a promotional track, especially if they got the video of their MEN performance on some music channels, it's saucy and got personality. Even if it is a little risqué! |
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28th December 2011, 06:54 PM
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Yeah I agree. Does anyone think that Do What You Want With Me could have some success as a single or a 'promotional track' ? I think it's very current, more current that dance material they've done. I think it would! It sounds really current and I think people would click with it. That or Promise Me would be a good 'promotional' track, especially with a tour video. |
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29th December 2011, 01:56 AM
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The thing with this group is that they hop sounds that much to stay current, always jumping on some sort of band-waggon or new trend. But who isn't? The sad thing is, if they did something on the lines of a promotional track with Do What You Want With Me next year, the whole dubstep think could be water under the bridge. It's what has happened to the dance genre too. I hope it dies a painful death next year because it's just grating now.
I think it would! It sounds really current and I think people would click with it. That or Promise Me would be a good 'promotional' track, especially with a tour video. Yeah that one too! 'Promise Me' isn't one of my favorites off the album, but it's still not a track I skip on the album (Infact I don't skip any tracks, apart from I Say OK now I think about it). There's something about 'Promise Me' that has JLS written all over it. It sounds really JLS esque. I know some people have also noticed it as well. There's just something about that opening chorus and the melody and structure of the lead synth. |
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29th December 2011, 02:27 AM
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I am still bitter Last Call was not single 3.
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29th December 2011, 03:36 AM
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'Do What You Want With Me' would be a fantastic single choice and they proved that they can more than do it justice without Una being there to promote it, so maybe when she has her baby break that could be the next single? I'm also a little frustrated as to why 'White Lies' was pretty much the only track left off from the tour. It's stupid and gutting. Isn't it a heavy fan favourite? (Along with 'Faster'?)
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