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 29th December 2011, 11:36 AM
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the most straightforward option is to release Faster, but this needs to be issued before Feb, otherwise I think it will be too late to save the album
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29th December 2011, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(missingyou @ Dec 29 2011, 11:36 AM)  the most straightforward option is to release Faster, but this needs to be issued before Feb, otherwise I think it will be too late to save the album Well that pretty much guarantees it won't happen with their management being the way they are  I do think there's some hope for TWYWM, it's continuously growing on me to the point where it's one of my favourite tracks from the album and it's uber-radio play friendly, so it will get to grow on others too if they promote it enough.Fingers still crossed they save the era. |
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29th December 2011, 12:08 PM
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White Lies being dismissed was gutting, it's such a favourite of mine and clearly that's the case with many other fans too.
 Oh well, forgotten album gem it is then.  Oops at #101, that's typical. Not that it really matters whether it was a place higher, but "not Top 100 in Christmas week" sounds bad. |
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29th December 2011, 01:19 PM
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I wonder if it could climb this week now that all the "Christmas present" effect will be gone and all the Xmas albums will surely plummet.
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29th December 2011, 02:40 PM
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I'm wondering if the album will re-enter the top 100 this week, if they're already at 101 then there's a chance that they can climb the couple of positions they need to re-enter, especially when the sales of many christmas albums is going to plummet - and drastically. And AFU re-entering the iTunes (& hopefully UK) top 100 that could give the album the little boost! (If they had a super Twitter promo session and released a little 'what we're up to' vid on youtube and talked about the album this week that would even be enough to climb two points! I think so anyway
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29th December 2011, 02:56 PM
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There's a fair few albums in the midweek Top 40 that weren't in the Top 40 last week, so there's certainly a lot of climbers & fallers this week. It's hectic.
In fact, there's 14 climbers into the Top 40. Of these 14, 10 were in last week's Top 75. The other 4 weren't even in the Top 100 - so that's at least four albums that have leap-frogged over The Saturdays this week. It totally depends whether The Saturdays can over-take a lot of albums that were higher than it last week... but while it may do that, it's also contending with a fair few albums climbing above it too. Will be interesting to see where it charts on Sunday (if it's back in the Top 100 that is). |
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29th December 2011, 03:36 PM
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Aww. I dunno whether it will get into the top-100 on sunday if it hasn't in the midweeks. I don't get why it's flopping so badly. In ASDA/Tesco/Sainsburys it's in their pop sections being prominently promoted. Also it's in the iTunes store being displayed with other top albums in the pop section. Apart from it having a terrible, generic 'remix collection' looking cover there's no reason for such a lack of sales.
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29th December 2011, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(seanopop @ Dec 29 2011, 03:36 PM) Aww. I dunno whether it will get into the top-100 on sunday if it hasn't in the midweeks. I don't get why it's flopping so badly. In ASDA/Tesco/Sainsburys it's in their pop sections being prominently promoted. Also it's in the iTunes store being displayed with other top albums in the pop section. Apart from it having a terrible, generic 'remix collection' looking cover there's no reason for such a lack of sales. I think it's mostly the compitition. Most casual buyers will walk in to any store looking to spend their Xmas money on some new CD's. They see The Saturdays, but they also see Rihanna/Coldplay/Michael Buble/Ed Sheeran/One Direction/JLS/Adele/Gaga/Bruno/Jessie/Olly/Rebecca/Amy/The Wanted/David Guetta/Cher Lloyd etc, most of them are much bigger names than The Sats and again it baffles me why OYR was released during this time period. The album market was dead in the first half of the year and there were barely any releases, and The Sats would easily have had a top ten position and been able to sell over a longer period of time but they're being completely overshadowed and unfortunately don't have any singles promoting it right now. The worst thing is they haven't even ANNOUNCED the next single, which means they'll probably wait until January to announce it/film it/edit it/release it and then it by that time the album will be completely dead. I have a feeling theyr'e just going to move on to the next era (again). |
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29th December 2011, 06:05 PM
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Psht. It sucks that this album is dead (<- 'cos it is, there's no realistic way they can fix this, not even with another headlines-style EP)
I wonder if they will learn from their mistakes this time? (or at least their management) and release at the right time, with the right promo. I am a big fan and didn't even know this album existed until it was released, which is ridiculous. They NEED to change their promo tactics! |
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30th December 2011, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(seanopop @ Dec 29 2011, 07:05 PM) Psht. It sucks that this album is dead (<- 'cos it is, there's no realistic way they can fix this, not even with another headlines-style EP) Wordshaker went back into the top40 in January after falling well under #100 in December. OYR is selling more, so I don't see why they can't do the same. |
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30th December 2011, 12:30 PM
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I think Ego really helped it go back top 40 though. They haven't even announced the 4th single yet and when they do surely it'll be too late?
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30th December 2011, 12:33 PM
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Frustrating times.
It really is one of the best pop albums this year imo, gutting to see the album not recieving the sales it deserves. No idea where they go from here. And I'll be genuinely shocked (but pleased with more new Sats music) if they do record a new album next year... said this already but I need more Xenomania tracks from them But more pop rooted tracks, rather than the all out dancier All Fired Up/Get Ready...Perhaps it'd be better (and cheaper) to churn out a greatest hits, release it around end of summer so it doesn't get buried like OYR did in the Xmas rush, and see how that would do. It seemed to work for Girls Aloud. If it doesn't have a similar effect for The Sats then maybe it'd be time to call it a day :/ They've the right number of singles there for a Greatest Hits - all the singles, 2 new tracks maybe and perhaps even a B Side collection too - I want a CD of their B-Sides so badly! And also, I guess it's an image problem that is causing the public to be hesitant and fully accepting of the girls? I like their image this era, but perhaps for the public they've grown up a bit too quickly? Maybe they can still keep the whole 'mature' and grown up style but make it a bit more colourful and brighter - like the All Fired Up single artwork. Kinda caters for everyone then, and doesn't really alienate their younger fans? This post has been edited by Encore: 30th December 2011, 12:42 PM |
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30th December 2011, 01:37 PM
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I was keen for a Greatest Hits because it worked well for Girls Aloud, but then I saw N-Dubz go to #38 with theirs (and they've had more success than The Sats) and realised The Sats would probably do just as badly. It's not like they have any big massive singles under their belt, they only have three that actually met 300K, and even that isn't amazing in todays climate.
If they're planning on doing a GH they better release it between Jan - August when sales are dead and no one is releasing. If they wait until next November to release it i'll actually cry. That is, if they're even going to release one. I think we might just get one final album from them. |
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30th December 2011, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(shadow2009 @ Dec 30 2011, 01:37 PM) I was keen for a Greatest Hits because it worked well for Girls Aloud, but then I saw N-Dubz go to #38 with theirs (and they've had more success than The Sats) and realised The Sats would probably do just as badly. It's not like they have any big massive singles under their belt, they only have three that actually met 300K, and even that isn't amazing in todays climate. If they're planning on doing a GH they better release it between Jan - August when sales are dead and no one is releasing. If they wait until next November to release it i'll actually cry. That is, if they're even going to release one. I think we might just get one final album from them. Depends how you measure success. For example all I'm aware of N-Dubz success is that they've sold over 1m albums and they've done a sell out tour? Post-N-Dubz is a different matter however. I don't really find the comparison justifiable. There's many reasons why the N-Dubz Greatest Hits album didn't do well... a) The cover. Members photo shopped together from different photo calls - hardly says that this a 'peacefull' group worth investing in. b) There was no promotion - unless you call Tulisa being a judge on Xfactor 'promotion'. c) No single (that I'm aware of) to actually promote the record d) The negative press 'they' get. 300k in 2008-2010 was an achievement. Not so much nowadays as it's quite easy to clear anywhere between 200 and 300k in a matter of weeks. |
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30th December 2011, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(2ndAdventure @ Dec 30 2011, 05:24 PM) Depends how you measure success. For example all I'm aware of N-Dubz success is that they've sold over 1m albums and they've done a sell out tour? Post-N-Dubz is a different matter however. I don't really find the comparison justifiable. There's many reasons why the N-Dubz Greatest Hits album didn't do well... a) The cover. Members photo shopped together from different photo calls - hardly says that this a 'peacefull' group worth investing in. I agree with a lot of your posts dude, but I don't think I or anybody I know considers how a group look, whether its 'peacefull' on the cover of a CD. |
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30th December 2011, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(missingyou @ Dec 30 2011, 07:22 PM) I don't think I or anybody I know considers how a group look, whether its 'peacefull' on the cover of a CD. At the end of the day, if their label/management or the group themselves can't be bothered for whatever reason to actually get the group together and make a new cover instead of using random shots from different photocalls etc then they obviously weren't that bothered about the release. It also adds fuel to the fire about the rift rumors. A cover can say a lot. Anyway I don't see what relevance N-Dubz have in this forum so let's move on 
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1st January 2012, 07:04 PM
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Failed to re-enter the top 100... Worrying times.
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1st January 2012, 07:13 PM
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From good news about 'All Fired Up', to this... ouch. I had hoped it had a chance of rising back into the 76-100 section at the very least. Being outside the Top 100 in this week is a disaster, the sales will be awful.
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1st January 2012, 07:51 PM
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Does anyone know where it charted this week?
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1st January 2012, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(vivek @ Jan 1 2012, 07:51 PM) Does anyone know where it charted this week? Jay might be able to tell us on Thursday. |
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