'ARTPOP' • Album Discussion Thread, 3rd album | 2013 - Pitchfork review just in! |
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8th August 2013, 08:28 PM
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Am i the only one getting the Ke$ha Supernatural vibes from this too?
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9th August 2013, 05:47 AM
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9th August 2013, 08:26 PM
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This song is great after listening a few times. At first, I thought it was crap. However, it got stuck in my head, wanted to listen to it all day + now can't stop.
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9th August 2013, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE When I ignite the flames & put you in my mouth The grass heats up my insides & my brunette starts to sprout -Mary Jane Holland Madeon <3 Interesting! |
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9th August 2013, 09:47 PM
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I'm confused.
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9th August 2013, 10:00 PM
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10th August 2013, 02:44 PM
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The production is interesting, but I can't get over the lyrics. "wear burqa for fun" r u kidding me?????
It's already problematic that so many people think she is the voice of the gay community and she is certainly not a voice for the Muslim community so I don't know why she thinks this is okay lol. This part of her personality really really bugs me. |
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10th August 2013, 06:32 PM
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12th August 2013, 04:27 PM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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Well, not for "fun", but "fashion". I don't really see what's so bad about these lyrics tbh.
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13th August 2013, 12:21 AM
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Must've remembered that line wrong but still...idk this post sort of sums it up well for me. I'm, of course, not personally offended but a lot of people are and that's enough 2 make me listen up. Also seeing a bunch of white twinks on Tumblr using freakin' towels as Burqa's after the song leaked definitely left me with a nasty feeling.
“The thing about this appropriation of the burqa that people need to understand is that people like Lady Gaga haven’t done a thing for the communities [here and abroad] that wear, live and breathe the garb who are subjected to harassment for doing so. The words “appreciation” and “admiration” are painfully hollow when you take a piece of clothing from a community and strip it of its intent and the consequences that come from it. Lady Gaga makes millions and taxes subsequently take a huge chunk of those millions. Therein, a quarter of her taxes are used to ravage Muslim majority populations. Has she spoken out about this? Has anyone orientalist who bast*rdizes our garb done so? Where were they when the Sikh tragedy happened? Where are they now when Newsweek posts a horribly offensive article on Muslim rage, aggressively written by their puppet Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who I’m ashamed to call my fellow Somali? Do they come to our defense when we’re expected to kneel over and apologize on behalf of extremists, who funnily enough kill us as well? If I wear a burqa, niqab.. or hell even a f***ing hijab, I’m a stupid, brown savage who has no capacity to think for herself. But when Gaga wears it, its revolutionary and fashionable. People love to scream equality and colorblindedness when such an event arises, but such a world is completely theoretical until we fix these the caricatured perceptions about Islam. The power dynamics here cannot be ignored.” |
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13th August 2013, 12:26 AM
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I'm not asleep, my mind is alive.
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It's strange and different to me, but I don't dislike it.
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13th August 2013, 01:22 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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This is outstanding. So much better than 'Applause'. My only thing with it is I really wanted one final massive drop after she finally says 'behind the burqa', I feel like the track needed that one last explosion. Oh well, still has given me so much hype for ARTPOP now.
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13th August 2013, 02:05 PM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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Must've remembered that line wrong but still...idk this post sort of sums it up well for me. I'm, of course, not personally offended but a lot of people are and that's enough 2 make me listen up. Also seeing a bunch of white twinks on Tumblr using freakin' towels as Burqa's after the song leaked definitely left me with a nasty feeling. “The thing about this appropriation of the burqa that people need to understand is that people like Lady Gaga haven’t done a thing for the communities [here and abroad] that wear, live and breathe the garb who are subjected to harassment for doing so. The words “appreciation” and “admiration” are painfully hollow when you take a piece of clothing from a community and strip it of its intent and the consequences that come from it. Lady Gaga makes millions and taxes subsequently take a huge chunk of those millions. Therein, a quarter of her taxes are used to ravage Muslim majority populations. Has she spoken out about this? Has anyone orientalist who bast*rdizes our garb done so? Where were they when the Sikh tragedy happened? Where are they now when Newsweek posts a horribly offensive article on Muslim rage, aggressively written by their puppet Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who I’m ashamed to call my fellow Somali? Do they come to our defense when we’re expected to kneel over and apologize on behalf of extremists, who funnily enough kill us as well? If I wear a burqa, niqab.. or hell even a f***ing hijab, I’m a stupid, brown savage who has no capacity to think for herself. But when Gaga wears it, its revolutionary and fashionable. People love to scream equality and colorblindedness when such an event arises, but such a world is completely theoretical until we fix these the caricatured perceptions about Islam. The power dynamics here cannot be ignored.” Hmm I didn't think about it that way. Well, tbh I WAS a bit 'wtf?' when the rumours about her new song being called 'Burqa' appeared. Like, it's an Islam thing and she's never touched anything remotely Islamic before. So that was a bit weird and felt out of character. I hope she will actually DO something though because with the gay thing she did do things that helped people, raised awareness and shit, so it was different and felt more... whole, you know. |
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14th August 2013, 12:08 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Pre-Order #2 on UK iTunes Album Chart.
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14th August 2013, 02:52 AM
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14th August 2013, 07:44 AM
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Sorry but unlike Mel C, Gaga is beautiful! Don't know where such off comparisons have came from!
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14th August 2013, 09:40 AM
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baddest of them all
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QUOTE Lady Gaga Declares Herself 'Over' in 'ARTPOP' Ad Singer tries a little reverse psychology in 47-second clip August 13, 2013 2:29 PM Lady Gaga's ARTPOP is still a a few months away, but the pop star has been steeling herself for backlash in many of her early public statements about the LP. "Dont focus on ANY blogger criticism. I have been a producer/songwriter/musician for over 10 years. Trust the artist bloggers are not critics," she tweeted on August 11. In a follow-up post, she added, "#STOPHarassingTheArtist we are here to entertain you." Gaga tackles the same topic again in a fresh teaser for ARTPOP, a video trailer titled Lady Gaga Is Over: A Film by Haus of Gaga. In the 47-second clip, the "Applause" of the album's first single is replaced by the sound of jeers. Gaga, her face covered in plastic, stars grimly at the camera as messages appear on the bottom of the screen: "If you don't like pop music, you should turn this off." "Lady Gaga is no longer relevant." "Ever since Born This Way, she's a flop." "DO NOT buy her new single 'Applause' on iTunes." "Give her no A-P-P-L-A-U-S-E." "DON'T dance to the song at all." Reverse psychology? Criticism as art? Hear "Applause," which recalls Gaga's early work on The Fame, here. Source. |
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14th August 2013, 09:52 AM
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14th August 2013, 10:00 AM
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14th August 2013, 10:12 AM
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#Venus
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