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 EU Referendum Discussion, Thursday 23rd June |
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 22nd June 2016, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jun 22 2016, 10:02 AM)  Can the Leave campaign explain to us why the EU would want to send us £100m per month (the rebate we get on our contribution) if we leave? I'm getting quite concerned now about the outcome. Not so much for myself or people of my age - but for the younger generation(s). I just think to leave is absolute madness and I've been quite surprised at some of the people I know and come into contact with - who I felt sure had more sense - are going to vote out. |
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22nd June 2016, 05:12 PM
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My mother said, to get things done, you better not mess with Maj
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/polit...e-a7095441.html
The map shows that in the event of a tied result, Sunderland would vote 53-47 for Leave. The most anti-EU constituency would be Fenland, with a 69-31 vote for Leave. Hartlepool reveals at 01:30, and is indicated at 61-39 for Leave, so it could be a big indicator. The City of Edinburgh is the most pro-EU region, showing a result of 74-26 for Remain. Also, Oxford and Cambridge both show results of over 70-30 for Remain. Just saying... |
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22nd June 2016, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Kath @ Jun 22 2016, 05:47 PM) I'm getting quite concerned now about the outcome. Not so much for myself or people of my age - but for the younger generation(s). I just think to leave is absolute madness and I've been quite surprised at some of the people I know and come into contact with - who I felt sure had more sense - are going to vote out. Same here. When you try to have a sensible conversation about facts background history and issues their eyes glaze over, thy mumble red tape, immigrants, freedom and have no concern about wht happens to young people, they genuinely dont care or just have faith based on someone telling them wht they want to hear. Others moan about lies, nd when i suggest they go online and do some research fr themselves, just make excuses and say tv should tell them the truth, thy havent got time. I despair..... |
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22nd June 2016, 07:20 PM
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Slightly apropos of nothing, but I've just stumbled upon another Yes Minister clip regarding the EU which still has me in stitches every time. Might be a little bit close to the knuckle though (as I imagine it was even then).
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23rd June 2016, 01:24 PM
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If the UK decides to leave the EU, it will be a disaster for all of us.
It will mean that the world isn't going in the right direction of peace, reunification and cooperation. The question should be: do you prefer building bridges or walls. I'm really hopeful the EU stays strong as it is. |
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23rd June 2016, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(marcin @ Jun 23 2016, 02:24 PM) If the UK decides to leave the EU, it will be a disaster for all of us. It will mean that the world isn't going in the right direction of peace, reunification and cooperation. The question should be: do you prefer building bridges or walls. I'm really hopeful the EU stays strong as it is. Some of us have done our best. |
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6th September 2016, 12:18 PM
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So no immigration points system, no extra NHS money (it's getting less), faremers & co are subsidised only until 2020, Obama has repeated his asserion that EU comes first, Japanese countries and the banks are still itchy about moving to Europe based on nothing whatsoever being talked about or reassured, the rest of the world still thinks we're mad, our touted deals with China are looking expensive and ridiculously naive, the EU is not keen to give way on anything in fear of Breaking Up if the Uk gets a sweetheart deal, and with elections and increasing racist rightwing politics in Europe and the USA to follow the British murdering MP's/murdering Polish people/attacking demonstrations against violence, farage has taken his vile politics to other elections in the world after criticizing at length American and European leaders for doing that, he still draws his EU salary, Johnson, Davies & co can't agree what Brexit Means Brexit or is it Biscuits Means Biscuits (presumably not the foreign-owned former-British Biscuits), the pound has still not recovered (and this will mean less money for everyone via inflation), interest rates are at an all-time historical (going back centuries) low and no sign of going up, just a threat of going negative, and Theresa May Not should be renamed, she's just trying to avoid a Tory split.
So, what part of Project Fear was a lie, and what part of Leave Campaigns wasn't a lie? We haven't even left yet and the Glass Half Full idiots still merrily think all will be fine on the grounds that if they don't keep parroting it, and telling us to stop whineging about losing the referendum they will have to admit they are all morons for falling for the lies of Johnson Gove and Farage. |
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7th September 2016, 08:27 PM
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We have a positive Brexit story!
Australia wants to do a trade deal with the UK in 2 and a half years (after leaving the EU)! fabulous! We can all rest assured our future is now secure! That means we can get pour hands on raw materials like lead and gold (along with China and the rest of the world) and presumably all the frozen lamb chops we can eat (cos we don't have sheep in the UK), and we can trade our goods like errr, well, whatever it is we have to sell to a few thousand people on the other side of the world to make up for losing 500 million customers. Yay....... (NB: Australia also says the UK deal will take place after the EU trade deal has been sorted, cos you know, 500 million vs 65 million, so that means we get a trade deal of unknown benefit after we would have gotten a better deal as part of a huge bloc) |
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7th September 2016, 08:39 PM
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Think of all that kangaroo steak we can eat.
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10th September 2016, 09:45 AM
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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-busin...6dcead39f6b772c
So, the questions are... a) Is Fox trying to get himself sacked because he realises his job is impossible and he wants to be able to blame someone else? b) How come he was saying the UK was a marvellous success and we could prosper outside the EU (5th biggest economy in the world) 3 months ago, and now according to those doing the deals (Brexit big knobs) UK trade is run by lazy arses and workers are lazy arses? 3 months is a pretty big about turn for such a key issue? c) why has he not handed over the charity cash to servicemen that is currently "resting in his account" and being used as a personal credit card facility? d) Has he been lying tosspot about many issues this year or he is just a completely useless greedy self-centred former-disgraced-Minister-Of-Defence-best-mates-on-foreign-business-pushing-their-firms-and-not-even-elected-to-be-in-on-UK-defence-ministry-secrets-and-contracts idiot who hasn't two brain cells to rub together enough to cause a spark of humanity sitting in his vast empty skull? Metaphorically speaking. I can't make up my mind and would welcome clarity... |
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10th September 2016, 10:12 AM
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And, in the meantime, going abroad could be about to get more expensive and involve more hassle, aka more of that fiendish "red tape" the Leave campaigners kept complaining about.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/s...-eu-visa-scheme |
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10th September 2016, 04:17 PM
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Now I'm seriously giving weight to the idea of learning German intensively, asking work for a secondment to the German firm and jumping through the necessary hoops to get my hands on that passport.
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10th September 2016, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Sep 10 2016, 11:12 AM) And, in the meantime, going abroad could be about to get more expensive and involve more hassle, aka more of that fiendish "red tape" the Leave campaigners kept complaining about. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/s...-eu-visa-scheme that would be a pain in the arse. The reason I switched to Spain as my holiday destination of choice is the wave yer passport easy option, from plane to bus stop inside 25 minutes. Florida travel became a bloody nightmare, advance tedious forms to fill in, credit card fees, long flight then ages standing in line to get past grim-faced suspicious customs officers, getting fingerprinted, photographed and bending over to get an internal examination before going to collect luggage. One of those items is not true, the rest are. |
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11th September 2016, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Sep 10 2016, 08:04 PM) that would be a pain in the arse. The reason I switched to Spain as my holiday destination of choice is the wave yer passport easy option, from plane to bus stop inside 25 minutes. Florida travel became a bloody nightmare, advance tedious forms to fill in, credit card fees, long flight then ages standing in line to get past grim-faced suspicious customs officers, getting fingerprinted, photographed and bending over to get an internal examination before going to collect luggage. One of those items is not true, the rest are. Finger printing I presume, thought they'd switched to iris scanners. |
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9th October 2016, 09:07 PM
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/world...t.co/wILuCnrhPN
so, according to intelligent people in the rest of the world, the UK is deluded and f***ed. And every single word said in the Leave Brexit campaign was a lie. Not even one thing was true..... Altogether now... "Always Look On The Bright Siiiiide of Life" |
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9th October 2016, 09:17 PM
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Brexit means Breakfast... !
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9th October 2016, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Oct 9 2016, 10:07 PM) http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/world...t.co/wILuCnrhPN so, according to intelligent people in the rest of the world, the UK is deluded and f***ed. And every single word said in the Leave Brexit campaign was a lie. Not even one thing was true..... Altogether now... "Always Look On The Bright Siiiiide of Life" And we have a PM who thought the same thing a few short months ago, but has now changed her mind so completely that she now wants as little to do with the EU as possible. We also have a leader of the opposition whose first reaction to the referendum result was to say that the PM should invoke Article 50 immediately, thereby making it more difficult to ask her about her dramatic volte face. |
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9th October 2016, 09:56 PM
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The whole thing's a mess. I'm going to crawl under a mattress with a packet of Battenberg until everything blows over. Thankfully, I've learned that despite its name, Battenberg is a British cake, so Brexit can't take that away from me.
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9th October 2016, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Oct 9 2016, 10:56 PM) The whole thing's a mess. I'm going to crawl under a mattress with a packet of Battenberg until everything blows over. Thankfully, I've learned that despite its name, Battenberg is a British cake, so Brexit can't take that away from me. Unfortunately as Battenberg is also a town in Germany Amber Rudd will call round tomorrow to destroy all any Battenberg's you have in your storage cupboards and existing stock will be expunged. Anybody caught eating one will be put on a list and sent to Milton Keynes. |
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9th October 2016, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Oct 9 2016, 10:46 PM) And we have a PM who thought the same thing a few short months ago, but has now changed her mind so completely that she now wants as little to do with the EU as possible. We also have a leader of the opposition whose first reaction to the referendum result was to say that the PM should invoke Article 50 immediately, thereby making it more difficult to ask her about her dramatic volte face. Oh as if she ever thought the same. |
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