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 28th June 2016, 11:26 AM
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It wasn't the best episode by a long shot, even last week's was better for me.
I feel a little troubled by Marge's end. It was quite anti climactic for such a well built and interesting character. |
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28th June 2016, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Joe. @ Jun 28 2016, 12:26 PM)  I feel a little troubled by Marge's end. It was quite anti climactic for such a well built and interesting character. She was the only one to die in that explosion whose arc hadn't reached a satisfying end but then it was her death that was the main catalyst for the subsequent actions of Tommen and Olenna, so I don't see how they could have avoided it sadly, and the unfinished feeling is probably to do with her being much less of a cipher here than she is in the source material. At least they stayed true to her intelligence and let her realise who it was who killed them in the end. |
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28th June 2016, 12:18 PM
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To be honest I was saddened by her death, but she never really had that moment in the sun, that huge victory were she transcended her potential and became a truly unforgettable character. I think she's probably been the best served non-core cast member, so that death felt quite fitting to me really. She knew it was going to happen, she was a truly brilliant political strategist and worked her way around so many people. The one thing even she couldn't top was utter INSANITY.
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28th June 2016, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jun 28 2016, 02:41 PM) She was the only one to die in that explosion whose arc hadn't reached a satisfying end but then it was her death that was the main catalyst for the subsequent actions of Tommen and Olenna, so I don't see how they could have avoided it sadly, and the unfinished feeling is probably to do with her being much less of a cipher here than she is in the source material. At least they stayed true to her intelligence and let her realise who it was who killed them in the end. I don't think Tommen killed himself because of Marge's death but rather because he realised what a monster his mother was. |
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29th June 2016, 12:39 PM
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Odds on Ser Pounce being on the new Small Council?
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29th June 2016, 07:58 PM
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I agree Margarey's death was such an anti-climax - but the rest of this episode was incredible! Absolutely LOVED Arya's scene. I expect we'll see her back with her family soon - finally!
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30th June 2016, 08:26 AM
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Only 13 episodes left have been confirmed. 7 Next season and 6 the season after.
Producers also released this...Confirms some things about Jon's relation to Dany.  And now that the end is in sight, who do we actually predict will finally win the game of thrones? |
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30th June 2016, 12:09 PM
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I'll be surprised if Dany doesn't win after everything she's been through/the fan love for her.
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30th June 2016, 12:21 PM
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Oh I think at this point it's pretty evident that's how it's going to go down. I had some doubts when the field was a bit wider but now it's her V Jon V Cersei and one of those is related to her so that's an easy out.
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30th June 2016, 12:22 PM
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Of the main, main characters who do you all think will make it to the very end?
Daenerys Arya Sansa Jon Tyrion Cersei Bran |
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30th June 2016, 05:42 PM
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I think you're missing Jaime! I really think he'll be in it for the long haul too.
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30th June 2016, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(Joe. @ Jun 30 2016, 01:22 PM) Of the main, main characters who do you all think will make it to the very end? Daenerys Arya Sansa Jon Tyrion Cersei Bran Well, clearly Cersei won't as we've basically been promised either Tyrion or Jaime will kill her (there's also speculation that 'little brother' could be a reading of Littlefinger but I'm doubtful). She'll come close but won't reach the end You could possibly argue Theon and Brienne as main characters too, as they've been pretty much ever present since the show began, and are essentially POV characters. This post has been edited by Severin: 30th June 2016, 05:52 PM |
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30th June 2016, 06:29 PM
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I'm only 100% certain on Dany being alive, but I'd imagine Jon, Sansa, Tyrion and Arya would be fairly safe bets too. I foresee Bran doing something heroic/sacrificing himself through using his powers to defeat the whitewalkers.
Cersei was never going to make it to the end, but recent events have finally shown us why/how. I expect she will die in the penultimate episode. |
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30th June 2016, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(Joe. @ Jun 30 2016, 09:26 AM) Only 13 episodes left have been confirmed. 7 Next season and 6 the season after. Producers also released this...Confirms some things about Jon's relation to Dany. And now that the end is in sight, who do we actually predict will finally win the game of thrones? The only really interesting thing about this graphic is that it suggests Rhaegar abducted Lyanna rather than the generally accepted idea that she ran off with him. |
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30th June 2016, 10:27 PM
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A part of me still thinks the white walkers will be the winners, they are really the main enemy that all the groups should be worrying about the most (indeed probably Bran and his powers would be the only one that could possibly do something about that).
Other than that, it's difficult to see past a Dany win, especially with the link to Jon Snow so they won't be all out enemies. |
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30th June 2016, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Jun 30 2016, 11:27 PM) A part of me still thinks the white walkers will be the winners, they are really the main enemy that all the groups should be worrying about the most (indeed probably Bran and his powers would be the only one that could possibly do something about that). Other than that, it's difficult to see past a Dany win, especially with the link to Jon Snow so they won't be all out enemies. I don't see that being the case personally. The ending is supposed to have a LOTR style 'bittersweet' feel to it. The Night King is a pretty 2D villain right now and it no longer feels like Martin's overall story is as inverted as it first did. I don't see their being a huge amount of development for them in only 13 hours worth of tv left. Jon's pretty much a classic hero trope now, and all the remaining Stark's, Dany and Tyrion have an underdog emerges triumphant feel to them. That said, whilst the white walkers do have a victim element to their story, there's no meat on the bones of it and a final victory for them would feel like a cheap attempt to create shock for shock's sake |
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1st July 2016, 07:32 PM
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I hope the next one season will be more dynamic... Last 2 episodes were great ...
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1st July 2016, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Severin @ Jul 1 2016, 12:25 AM) I don't see that being the case personally. The ending is supposed to have a LOTR style 'bittersweet' feel to it. The Night King is a pretty 2D villain right now and it no longer feels like Martin's overall story is as inverted as it first did. I don't see their being a huge amount of development for them in only 13 hours worth of tv left. Jon's pretty much a classic hero trope now, and all the remaining Stark's, Dany and Tyrion have an underdog emerges triumphant feel to them. That said, whilst the white walkers do have a victim element to their story, there's no meat on the bones of it and a final victory for them would feel like a cheap attempt to create shock for shock's sake I can't see the white walkers winning either, there would be no point in demonstrating that they can be killed by valyrian steel unless they are going to be defeated. In fact, with how the story has developed, I think it would be a better story if the white walkers weren't even part of it as they feel entirely separate from the rest of the interplay between the different houses. |
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1st July 2016, 10:39 PM
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I completely agree, though I've always felt they were an element too far. Perhaps the Bran can change/impact history thing will come into play and he'll just UNDO them all. Deus Ex Hallelujah.
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1st July 2016, 10:43 PM
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Perhaps Winter will actually finally arrive and kill all and sundry and the iron throne will be empty forever more.
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