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 Who will win the U.S Presidential election? |
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 2nd November 2016, 04:21 PM
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Just posted this in the News & Politics forum, but this is a great article if you think that the two candidates are even comparable:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/th...s-a7384421.html |
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2nd November 2016, 04:33 PM
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I really hope it is Clinton, but I think it will be Trump.
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2nd November 2016, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Nov 2 2016, 02:35 PM)  I expect Hilary Clinton to win (but then I also expected remain to win - I know, not really comparable.. but still) Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama-Clinton- Jeb in 2020?? Jeb's totally finished. He didn't want to run either way and any hype he ever had is completely cratered. |
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2nd November 2016, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(Qassändra @ Nov 2 2016, 01:29 PM) Aaaaand this is how rich right-wingers turn poor people against their own interests and the 'snobbish metropolitan liberal elite'. (granted, guilty on occasion) Agreed. I really dislike it when I know people have voted without understanding the implications of what they've voted for, but all we can do is encourage them to understand the importance of politics and get them to learn more about the issue for the future so they do vote from a fully informed position, whatever that may be. I understand the sentiment, when people say things like 'the unintelligent shouldn't vote', it's a reaction to what's perceived to be society doing its utmost to go in the opposite direction to what is believed to be good for the society in the future (and it is often when some right-wing populist, like now, somehow enraptures large swathes of those decidedly not part of the liberal elite, and probably desperate for a change, any change, with plans to take 'backwards' steps that won't benefit the people who are voting for him except perhaps in the very short-term). |
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2nd November 2016, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(Andrew. @ Nov 2 2016, 04:10 PM) So you think we should stop people from voting if it gets your (and mine) favoured result? No, and maybe uneducated was the wrong word to use as there are a lot of people who don't go through education who are very intelligent. It's just me being angry and I get people's argument that everyone has the right to vote. It's just to me, I really can't understand how all of a sudden it feels like we're going back in time almost to a place where racism is being more accepted ...it's just upsetting. |
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2nd November 2016, 06:37 PM
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The main problem here is that the media have been able to get away with peddling outright lies and half truths for decades without penalty. I am supportive of a free press but the press should report the truth and their xenophobic and outright racist lies should come with consequences. Otherwise what the f*** is the point in legislation against hate speech.
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2nd November 2016, 09:22 PM
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There is no point in legislating against hate speech, I'd rather know who the racists are and on the whole society shuns them. It just reveals their true character and shows what twats they are rather than have them harbouring and hiding racist views leading to more extreme movements. I'd say this is why the EDL and BNP have faded into obscurity, they had the opportunity to make themselves laughing stocks. That said, newspapers should be fined or something for spreading misinformation absolutely.
As for the candidates neither of them particularly appeal to me but hopefully Hillary will win if only by virtue of not being Trump. |
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 2nd November 2016, 09:52 PM
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Hillary Clinton. The idea of Trump winning is appalling to me.
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3rd November 2016, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(Jacob Alan @ Nov 2 2016, 09:22 PM) There is no point in legislating against hate speech, I'd rather know who the racists are and on the whole society shuns them. It just reveals their true character and shows what twats they are rather than have them harbouring and hiding racist views leading to more extreme movements. I'd say this is why the EDL and BNP have faded into obscurity, they had the opportunity to make themselves laughing stocks. That said, newspapers should be fined or something for spreading misinformation absolutely. As for the candidates neither of them particularly appeal to me but hopefully Hillary will win if only by virtue of not being Trump. EDL and BNP faded into obscurity because more mainstream-friendly movements like UKIP supplanted them lol. You see the same thing now with the Tories adopting UKIP's manifesto, eating up their voterbase and making proposals that would be unthinkable from a major party a decade ago. It's given UKIP a bit of an identity crisis. This post has been edited by Harve: 3rd November 2016, 10:07 AM |
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5th November 2016, 02:24 PM
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That is sadly true to a degree but as loathsome as UKIP is to me there's no way they could reasonably be construed in a way that is as extreme as the BNP and EDL, likewise with the Tories (even now) in comparison to UKIP. UKIP is falling apart now mostly because they achieved their singular goal and they have no idea what to do with themselves. The Tories have always been awful and fickle and now they're just appealing to their voters, they sway with popular opinion among the right wing voter base. It's not an ideal situation in any way it's just better than the alternative. Imagine how much worse it'd have been if it was the BNP that got 3.8M votes last election.
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5th November 2016, 05:22 PM
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This is as good a thread as any to put it in but a YouTuber who I'm very much a fan of did this video essay on the history of Hilary Clinton in the media. Certainly puts all the associations people have of her into context of the best part of the last 25 years.
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6th November 2016, 03:04 AM
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Have just rediscovered this site which tests how much you agree with each of the candidates running and decided to take it again lol. I get 97% for Jill Stein (the whole anti-vax thing (as well as her not actually having any chance of winning) is a shame really because she'd be pretty good otherwise), 93% for Hillary, 42% for Gary Johnson and a whopping 13% for Trump. That's slightly higher for Hillary and slightly lower for Trump than I remember from the last time I did this ~
(also allows you to show the dropped out candidates - 95% for Bernie Sanders (R.I.P.), and despite how low that number for Trump is, he's still somehow more agreeable than all of the other Republicans bar Rand Paul who I get 20% for, with John Kasich being the only other one even above 10% :') and it also shows the 2012 candidates, giving me 91% for Obama (surprisingly low) and just 3% for Mitt Romney  )
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6th November 2016, 08:33 AM
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heard a rumour bré prefers donald trump to mitt romney
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6th November 2016, 09:23 AM
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My mother said, to get things done, you better not mess with Maj
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My results:
96% Jill Stein 93% Hilary Clinton 42% Gary Johnson 7% Donald Trump |
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6th November 2016, 10:18 AM
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Simpatizo con Hillary Clinton an la mayoría de los asuntos de las Elecciones Presidenciales del año 2016.
Los candidatos que apoyas... Hillary Clinton 88% DEMOCRAT Hillary Clinton Jill Stein 87% GREEN Gary Johnson 68% LIBERTARIAN Donald Trump 18% REPUBLICAN And 89% Bernie and 92% for Obama 7% Romney 
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6th November 2016, 11:45 AM
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92% Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
83% Jill Stein (Green) 41% Gary Johnson (Libertarian) 15% Donald Trump (Republican) 95% Barack Obama (Democrat 2012) 21% Mitt Romney (Republican 2012) 79% Bernie Sanders |
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6th November 2016, 11:46 AM
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98% Jill Stein
97% Hilary Clinton 35% Gary Johnson 23% Donald Trump 95% Obama 12% Ron Paul 6% Romney 97% Sanders 62% O'Malley 22% Bush 12% Rand Paul 6% Huckabee 6% Cruz 5% Christie 5% Rubio 4% Carson 3% Fiorina 3% Graham 1% Santorum In conclusion, I am so not a republican. |
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6th November 2016, 11:47 AM
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what's surprising is that there were so many Republican candidates that are apparently even worse than Trump. Some scored as low as 5% for me.
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6th November 2016, 11:58 AM
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95% Hilary Clinton
93% Jill Stein 36% Gary Johnson 25% Donald Trump (oops) 98% Obama  21% Ron Paul 6% Romney 89% Sanders 74% O'Malley 22% Bush 11% Cruz |
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6th November 2016, 12:22 PM
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97% Hillary
95% Jill Stein 94% Bernie Sanders 40% Rand Paul 36% Gary Johnson 8% Trump 8% Ted Cruz the shift between left and right between the US/UK is still baffling at least this proves identifying as centre right in the UK does not make me a Trump supporter  (as has been legitimately asked before)
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