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 EU Referendum Discussion, Thursday 23rd June |
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 2nd March 2017, 08:55 PM
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I always thought it was deeply ironic that everyone reciting of by heart the lies about the EU being undemocratic and unelected were perfectly happy with the House of Lords. The undemocratic and unelected upper house.
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2nd March 2017, 09:43 PM
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I Drink Wine
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I like the Lords apart from the hereditary aspect of it, it proves usefulness in protecting us in situations like this.
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2nd March 2017, 11:05 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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I still like my idea of having the members of the House of Lords chosen at random by an annual draw.
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3rd March 2017, 08:48 AM
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 I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Mar 2 2017, 11:05 PM)  I still like my idea of having the members of the House of Lords chosen at random by an annual draw. House of Ords? |
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3rd March 2017, 12:58 PM
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If the current "What I say goes regardless of hundreds of years of democratic principle" unelected woman running the country goes to show it's that a Second House is vital to the effective guarding of Democracy. Now I'm not in favour of hereditary peers, and I would prefer the chamber to be elected 2 years after the last election if we go that route - but the current system has at least the advantage of a skillset available that elected potential third-rate farage's lack.
A single Parliament is a very bad idea, they rush through half-arsed legislation at the drop of a hat and with little planning and forethought as it is..... |
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12th March 2017, 02:59 AM
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Article 50 could be triggered next week if the Brexit bill passes through the commons on Monday.
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21st March 2017, 02:18 PM
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29th March. can we call this the blackest day.
i'm still f***ing terrified about what brexit means for me. pls just let all of these rumours about european citizenship for any brits who want it to be true |
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21st March 2017, 02:48 PM
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Queen of Soon
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Scottish Government found out from BBC News
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21st March 2017, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ Mar 21 2017, 02:48 PM) Scottish Government found out from BBC News But all four nations will be full involved at all stages in the process. It must be true, Mrs Mayhem said so 
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21st March 2017, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(bad gal lotita @ Mar 21 2017, 02:18 PM) 29th March. can we call this the blackest day. i'm still f***ing terrified about what brexit means for me. pls just let all of these rumours about european citizenship for any brits who want it to be true My hope against hope 
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21st March 2017, 06:09 PM
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Queen of Soon
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I will sell my soul to keep EU citizen rights
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29th March 2017, 11:45 AM
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The letter has been sent. It is starting.
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29th March 2017, 03:57 PM
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What a sad sad day for the UK.
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29th March 2017, 05:11 PM
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 'For ten years, the Mail has campaigned for this day. We have not wavered in our conviction that Britain's best and brightest future is with Europe' (yes there's been a change in the EU's position today but this is actually hilarious!!) |
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29th March 2017, 05:21 PM
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Crap.
The interviwws of people on the news shows how ignorant and uninformed and brainwashed by the press a lot of voters were. This should never have gone to a vote. And the scant 'majority' should never have led to Brexit. This is just to stop the Tories losing any voters to UKIP. Disgusting. |
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29th March 2017, 07:19 PM
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I must admit, it's quite a sad day.
Quite scary to think of many aspects of our economy and business that will be greatly affected. Going to be major talent gaps for certain areas. |
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29th March 2017, 07:21 PM
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Brexiters still remain utterly convinced that the EU will roll over and do what we want, and that even if we leave without a deal it wont really affect anything much.
Oops. If they are right I will humbly admit that I, all credible experts, most politicians, and the bulk of most countries are wrong, and experts really don't know jack shit. If it all goes pear shaped I am never going to stop reminding anyone who voted for it what they have done to the country. Because you can be 100% certain if it goes right they will be bullying everyone to never offer up a democratic alternative opinion and will crow and crow and crow, just as they constantly harp on already about remoaners after a mere 9 months of alternative viewpoints (we've had 2 decades plus to endure of them). So what goes around comes around... |
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29th March 2017, 10:16 PM
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The EU have seemingly softened their position a bit at least. I do think a win-win situation can be achieved, but it'll take a lot of work. We'll have to see how the French presidential election goes first though - if Le Pen manages a "surprise" win that could throw a spanner in the works.
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29th March 2017, 11:37 PM
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Queen of Soon
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The utter hypocrisy is mind blowing. Scotland can't vote until Brexit has been well implemented coz it's unfair to vote on something we don't really know about but we can get pulled out of the EU by a lying red f***ing bus?!?!
9 months later we still have no actual plan. There's no idea of the consequences of a disorderly exit, nor planning for what will happen without transitional arrangements. It's a farce. A blatant power grab by Cameron has destroyed our future economic prosperity, bitterly divided the country and will lead to the break up of the UK and the reunification of Ireland. I hope history remembers him as the desperate opportunistic weasel he is. |
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2nd April 2017, 08:54 AM
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According to the Sunday Express (meaning it might be complete rubbish) the blue passport is to return at a cost of half a billion quid. Even 50p to do something so utterly pointless would be a waste of money.
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