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post 12th May 2017, 09:29 PM
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Congratulations to Chelsea another showing of the rat, Terry lifting the trophy. Was there crowd trouble at all, heard something that there was.

Now don't turn into snakes now Chelsea and please not another false dawn in Terry leaving the club.

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post 12th May 2017, 09:57 PM
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Congrats to Chelsea. I really like Conte, he's a good football guy.

That spell where they won 13 games in a row really won it for them as they were unspectacular before that. It will be interesting to see what happens in the summer, I think they will keep the brunt of their squad (Courtious, Costa, Hazard the question marks) and invest in 2-3 great players. I fancy them to do well in the Champions League next year.
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post 12th May 2017, 10:17 PM
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Chelsea did do something right to win the title. Barkley will leave Everton.
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post 12th May 2017, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ May 12 2017, 10:21 PM) *
Hardly impressive as 10th wasn't a real result for Chelsea last year!

I suppose 6th to 1st would be an outstanding achievement, though.
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post 12th May 2017, 11:23 PM
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My point, quite f***ing obviously, was that context is important. The 2015 champions going from 10th back to 1st with fundamentally the same team because their players are snakes and their performance was deflated in 2016 as a direct result of their players actions is not impressive, it just further underlines their shitty actions last season.


6th to 1st would not be an "outstanding achievement" for United. 6th is an underperformance - not that we're winning the league next season anyway.
6th to 1st for last year's 6th placed team Southampton would be an "outstanding achievement".

Once more, context is king.
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post 12th May 2017, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(TroyTempest @ May 12 2017, 11:17 PM) *
Chelsea did do something right to win the title. Barkley will leave Everton.


Another average overhyped player player who has never kicked on. Lukaku will go in the summer too. Everton will be lost biggrin.gif
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post 13th May 2017, 01:42 PM
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Chelsea deserved to win the league and it was never really in doubt since December, if Antonio Conte thinks it's going to be this easy every season then he will have another thing coming from next season onwards.


I'm glad Man City got the win just now against Leicester, hopefully Stoke will win today and Liverpool will win tomorrow. I want Arsenal to finish 5th and feel the humiliation of being the ONLY team in the top six to fail to qualify for next season's Champions League providing that we win the Europa League final. That will shut up the Arsenal fans that have been saying "6th", "Europa League club" to us all season long.
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post 13th May 2017, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(Houdini @ May 13 2017, 02:42 PM) *
Chelsea deserved to win the league and it was never really in doubt since December, if Antonio Conte thinks it's going to be this easy every season then he will have another thing coming from next season onwards.
I'm glad Man City got the win just now against Leicester, hopefully Stoke will win today and Liverpool will win tomorrow. I want Arsenal to finish 5th and feel the humiliation of being the ONLY team in the top six to fail to qualify for next season's Champions League providing that we win the Europa League final. That will shut up the Arsenal fans that have been saying "6th", "Europa League club" to us all season long.


The thing is Arsenal love 4th place. This is why as a Liverpool fan I am really nervous, we have it within ourselves to majorly screw up. The only thing that gives me hope is Arsenal have never beaten Stoke away. And that said if you look at our form against the other teams, we're grinding out wins. But Everton will roll over for them on the last day of the season so they only really need to win their next two games.
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post 13th May 2017, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ May 13 2017, 05:05 PM) *
The thing is Arsenal love 4th place. This is why as a Liverpool fan I am really nervous, we have it within ourselves to majorly screw up. The only thing that gives me hope is Arsenal have never beaten Stoke away. And that said if you look at our form against the other teams, we're grinding out wins. But Everton will roll over for them on the last day of the season so they only really need to win their next two games.


There you go, Arsenal will get 4th now. No room to slip up for Liverpool and I think we will.
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post 13th May 2017, 06:38 PM
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I think Mark Hughes could be gone at the end of the season as Stoke manager. Stoke could be in danger next season for relegation.

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post 13th May 2017, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ May 13 2017, 05:05 PM) *
The thing is Arsenal love 4th place. This is why as a Liverpool fan I am really nervous, we have it within ourselves to majorly screw up. The only thing that gives me hope is Arsenal have never beaten Stoke away. And that said if you look at our form against the other teams, we're grinding out wins. But Everton will roll over for them on the last day of the season so they only really need to win their next two games.

I've got a feeling that Liverpool will bottle it as well, you have to beat West Ham because Arsenal will almost certainly win their last two matches against Sunderland and Everton. A lot of Man Utd fans, possibly the majority would rather Liverpool miss out than Arsenal but for me the novelty of watching the top 4 merchants play on Thursdays will be too funny to resist and it will serve those Arsenal fans that I mentioned before right.
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post 14th May 2017, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(Houdini @ May 14 2017, 12:37 AM) *
I've got a feeling that Liverpool will bottle it as well, you have to beat West Ham because Arsenal will almost certainly win their last two matches against Sunderland and Everton. A lot of Man Utd fans, possibly the majority would rather Liverpool miss out than Arsenal but for me the novelty of watching the top 4 merchants play on Thursdays will be too funny to resist and it will serve those Arsenal fans that I mentioned before right.


Thankfully only one banana skin to go now.. Boro! We were the better side by far but got a bit of luck (Ayew should have scored and that 3rd goal should never have stood really.. West Ham should probably have had a penalty..) along the way.

I imagine there are quite a lot of Arsenal fans that don't want Arsenal to finish in the Top 4 - as it means Wenger is less likely to stay!
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post 14th May 2017, 04:01 PM
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I don't even care anymore. So many united players demonstrating yet again why they aren't fit to wear the shirt. Fire sale in the summer please
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post 14th May 2017, 04:17 PM
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We were in equal parts unlucky and completely abject there. Our heads completely went as soon as you broke away for the third goal.

After ending Tottenham's title hopes, it was clearly one favour too many for Arsenal today. Assuming Boro won't be much of a problem if yesterday was anything to go by.
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post 14th May 2017, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ May 14 2017, 05:01 PM) *
I don't even care anymore. So many united players demonstrating yet again why they aren't fit to wear the shirt. Fire sale in the summer please


You have the same problem Liverpool had for many, many years. Lots of average players. But even with a stronger team I still think Spurs would beat you today.

QUOTE(Soy Adrián @ May 14 2017, 05:17 PM) *
We were in equal parts unlucky and completely abject there. Our heads completely went as soon as you broke away for the third goal.

After ending Tottenham's title hopes, it was clearly one favour too many for Arsenal today. Assuming Boro won't be much of a problem if yesterday was anything to go by.


Yeah we really could have scored 5/6. We hit the bar 3/4 times as well. We were properly up for it today, but West Ham were in holiday mode. Thankfully Antonio and Carroll were injured, otherwise it would probably have been a different game. Boro could be a problem as our home form recently is pretty average. But we know we have to win really, so I expect a proper performance.
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post 14th May 2017, 05:20 PM
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Hull are relegated after losing 4-0 to Crystal Palace, this means that the only issue which could potentially go to the last day is fourth place which is what happened in the 2012/13 season. It looks like it could be quite an uneventful day next weekend.
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post 14th May 2017, 06:10 PM
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I knew that we would lose today, I didn't even bother watching the match because it's not important and I couldn't be bothered to search for a stream to watch it on. If this was season mode on FIFA then these last few league matches would get a quick sim and just skip straight to the 24th of May.
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post 14th May 2017, 06:34 PM
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We finally scored an away goal at a top 6 team!!

Ended up watching the whole thing. Some good points with Martial playing well and the subs made a good impact. On the flip side this really proved that the whole strong squad thing is a complete myth we need a fire sale. Rooney, Smalling and Jones can all go immediately.
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post 14th May 2017, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ May 14 2017, 07:34 PM) *
We finally scored an away goal at a top 6 team!!

Ended up watching the whole thing. Some good points with Martial playing well and the subs made a good impact. On the flip side this really proved that the whole strong squad thing is a complete myth we need a fire sale. Rooney, Smalling and Jones can all go immediately.


You have a strong squad imo. The problem is your 1st team could do with a few additions and Mourinho's attitude to games. I think if he actually set you up to attack the top teams, you have the players to cause problems. Think it's funny as if this was Moyes or Van Gaal there would be hell breaking loose!
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post 14th May 2017, 08:06 PM
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It is starting to in parts of the fandom but they need to get a grip.

The difference between the Moyes/Van Gaal era's is that outside of the negative set-ups vs the top6, we have by and large been playing much better football than at any point over the three proceeding seasons.
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