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Long Dong Silver
post 7th May 2017, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(dandy* @ May 7 2017, 03:57 PM) *
Totally agree with Slick, this started out promising but then gradually dissolved away as things were rushed to a (not at all scary) conclusion.

The whole plot was so unfeasible - why was the woman and child okay but everyone else is not? Why every 20 years? Why would a child see its mother turning to wood and instantly think that the creatures were keeping her alive? Exactly how do the deaths keep her alive anyway? Why did the recent inhabitants come back to life? And why didn't the others? Why would killing the mother and child mean that the house falls down in the first place?

It was just really badly thought through, the whole thing was a very good idea for a scary setting that it felt like they had just shoehorned the villain and plot in. :/

(David Suchet was good though wub.gif )


Absolutely.

The plot was garbage.
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post 7th May 2017, 09:33 PM
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Absolute garbage that episode. A very weak plot. Started promising but some very wooden acting from the assistant's friends.

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post 7th May 2017, 09:50 PM
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I definitely understand the mixed opinion in here! There were elements that I though were great such as the supporting cast, the sound effects (NEED to watch that special headphone edition) and I thought the design for Eliza was pretty spectacular, a great reveal as well. The plot was a bit flimsy though, like what were the bugs and why did they save her but also turn her into wood at the same time. The twist that he was her son also had like no build up which meant the reveal fell flat.

The whole thing just needed tightening up more. The start went on for a but too long (with hindsight that there was a lot to get through) and we didn't need that bit about Bill's music taste. The Landlord should have been more prominent (David Suchet was fab) and I would have had a different monster/creature than the random bugs, maybe just even having a living house?? Them all just magically coming back in like a 20 second sequence was a bit :/ too. Plus I WANTED MORE BILL.

There was a lot of potential and the sound effects team really were amazing in their work but it did just feel like it needed a couple more rewrites. Probably my least favourite episode so far of the series but the one I was most hyped for (again so far) sad.gif

-x/

I read the previews in DWM for the next few episodes and they all have the potential to be AMAZING. Episode 6 sees the return of Missy and also the reveal of what is in the Vault so, adding to what we heard at the end of tonight's episode, I can only see it being Missy. Its continuing that theme of the Doctor and Missy being frenemies. The Doctor wants to be friends with her but can only do that through keeping her at bay kink.gif
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post 13th May 2017, 07:02 PM
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next week's episode ohmy.gif

And that was the worst episode of the utter series. I was literally bored all the way through.
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post 13th May 2017, 09:48 PM
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Where was the trailer for next week?

I enjoyed that episode - soooo much better than last week's garbage.
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post 13th May 2017, 10:52 PM
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I think that's the best episode of the series so far. It was quite slow in parts but it had a compelling and interesting mystery and some nice comedic moments. Interesting to see where they'll go with the Doctor being blind...
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post 13th May 2017, 11:09 PM
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It was by far the best episode of the series (you on the wrong 'backy wacky' Mikey? kink.gif), it was the first time this series there actually felt a sense of a proper threat and uncertainty (and that still lingers now with the Doctor being blind!) and the capitalist aspect of the suits was a nice attempt to do something different with the 'stranded in space with an enemy' storyline. Next week looks potentially brilliant.

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post 13th May 2017, 11:20 PM
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I wasn't a great fan of tonight's episode sad.gif I was wondering whether we would get a surprise regeneration to cure the blindness. Maybe that's next week!
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post 13th May 2017, 11:28 PM
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But surely he has the technology to fix it??

Matt Smith's doctor could heal anythin, brain blood clots, near death, actual death, you name it.
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post 13th May 2017, 11:28 PM
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Where was this trailer???
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post 14th May 2017, 12:00 AM
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Pffft I KNEW they pressed stop too soon. Saw the trailer - this seaon, except from last week's garbage, has really picked up after the awful Capaldi seasons!

I reckon he won't see rill his regen either.
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post 14th May 2017, 11:54 AM
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I really enjoyed this week's episode! There was a real credible threat and I loved the space capitalism aspect of it. Bill is fast becoming my favourite companion - she is really fantastic. She's so human and relatable in a way Clara wasn't. As the role of the companion, to basically be the voice of the audience, Bill is absolutely spot on. By the end of the series, she might challenge Donna for my overall favourite.
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post 14th May 2017, 12:06 PM
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Yeah it was my favourite of the series so far also, the time flew by while I was watching. Loved the idea of the oxygen credits and the pacing was good too!
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post 14th May 2017, 12:10 PM
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Yeah I quite liked this one! The fact that you were on edge as to which characters survived (and they didn't all come back to life kink.gif ) was very good! Wonder if he'll stay blind until his regeneration...
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post 14th May 2017, 02:48 PM
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I think it could be an interesting concept for the Doctor to stay blind until his regeneration, but I think it might get a little bit repetitive especially if it's kept a secret from Bill... although could lead to some interesting moments. But I also think they shouldn't rush and give him his sight back too soon because then this episode won't have had much of a lasting impact on either the Doctor or Bill
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post 14th May 2017, 08:30 PM
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The episode was decent enough - I found it worrying when Bill said she thought she was back alive and the Doctor said something along the lines of "Yes, you do seem to be under that impression" - although surely two companions in a row can't be dead?
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post 14th May 2017, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(Yeasty Clutch @ May 13 2017, 10:48 PM) *
Where was the trailer for next week?

I enjoyed that episode - soooo much better than last week's garbage.


At the end of the credits laugh.gif
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post 15th May 2017, 12:53 AM
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I rewatched this ep as I wasn't paying full attention to it and I really liked it. Not sure if its my favourite of the series but a strong episode. My favourite bit being the part when Bill's ocygen went and it had that hazy sort of feel to it, really scary thought. I liked also the idea of oxygen having a price etc.
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post 15th May 2017, 07:35 PM
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First Doctor Who episode that has genuinely slightly scared me in a long time, the opening scene particularly! Really enjoyed it, this entire series has felt so much more like RTD Who and I love it.

My one quibble was how come Bill could be saved and no one else? Weren't their nervous systems shut down? I guess the others (not Bill) couldn't be saved because they'd been out in the vacuum for too long but what about the blue guy and the other recent death? Why was only Bill revived? And how?
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post 15th May 2017, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(Jacob. @ May 15 2017, 08:35 PM) *
First Doctor Who episode that has genuinely slightly scared me in a long time, the opening scene particularly! Really enjoyed it, this entire series has felt so much more like RTD Who and I love it.

My one quibble was how come Bill could be saved and no one else? Weren't their nervous systems shut down? I guess the others (not Bill) couldn't be saved because they'd been out in the vacuum for too long but what about the blue guy and the other recent death? Why was only Bill revived? And how?


The Doctor said it was because Bill's suit was faulty and didn't have enough for a lethal dose of whatever the suit uses to kill people.
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