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 16th May 2017, 12:41 PM
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Confirmed that Michelle Gomez is leaving the show after this series as well
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16th May 2017, 04:32 PM
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Definitely the best ep so far for me! I'm always a huge fan of the base under seige stories and I loved the extra spins that Jamie Mathieson put on it! Such a brilliant idea that you only have a limited number of BREATHS and that running, being scared etc reduces that more and then, on top of that, the suits that are there to help you breath are also what can kill you! So many great ideas that I just really want MORE episodes from Jamie, he's shown himself to be a real creative force. It was good that there was an actual impact of the events too, showing that there was real danger which increases the tension more. Having Bill be exposed to the vacuum, 'dying' in the suit and then the Doctor staying blind were all real threats, even perhaps more so than the zombie people! The darkness of those elements were also nicely balanced with some humour throughout the episode and, I have to admit that there were some nice touches from Nardole. (still not seeing the point of him though but we're apparently finding out with this next set of stories)
The production is absolutely OUTSTANDING this series. That opening pre-titles sequence was nothing short of spectacular. Really looking forward to next week's episode as we start this trilogy of stories and it'll be great to have Missy back. 
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20th May 2017, 07:16 PM
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!!!!!!!!!! that episode
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20th May 2017, 07:18 PM
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 you never forget your first time...
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I need to rewatch cause I think I missed a couple of the important explanations
 but the second half in particular was excellent, really loved the concept of them being in what was essentially a video game and these new monsters seem intriguing!
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20th May 2017, 07:18 PM
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Buy yourself a car, and a house in Devon
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No idea what to think of that episode, definitely interesting I have to say! Leading up to something big!
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20th May 2017, 07:22 PM
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I Drink Wine
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Best episode this series! Loved it!
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20th May 2017, 08:13 PM
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 Infamy Infamy they all got it in for me
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That has to be the best episode of the series, there were some bits that probably need to see again to gain more understanding of the trilogy, I probably have to re-watch it as a trilogy.
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20th May 2017, 08:19 PM
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 The owls are not what they seem
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I'm so confused lmao
 Good old Moffat~Was a fantastic episode though and I'm really interested to see what's next. |
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20th May 2017, 09:41 PM
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A brilliant episode tonight and it's good to see an old-fashioned cliff-hanger.
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20th May 2017, 10:14 PM
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I quite liked the episode but I certainly didn't think it was as good as everyone else seems to have done... I thought the bits with Missy were really rather drawn out and only served to ruin any tension that could have been built in the 'main' story.
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21st May 2017, 05:16 AM
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rip in peace Dickston
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QUOTE(dandy* @ May 21 2017, 06:14 AM)  I thought the bits with Missy were really rather drawn out and only served to ruin any tension that could have been built in the 'main' story. This was a great episode but I do agree with what you said about Missy. I'm sure she'll have a bigger role in the next 2 episodes and her involvement in this one was just to set up her presence. |
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21st May 2017, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(burbe @ May 16 2017, 01:41 PM) Confirmed that Michelle Gomez is leaving the show after this series as well WHY? Although when my mam heard this, she said, good, as she;'s just all teeth, I don't like her
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21st May 2017, 08:17 PM
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It was a good episode! The flashbacks to Missy were fine in length, but the cutaways to those parts were random and a bit disjointed?
The threat was well thought-out and it is high time Doctor Who explored that sort of plot/ scientific idea. Also, that explains the Vault then and we were right. One thing that was missing from this episode, though: River Song appears as a diary ... and it was nice to see the Doctor take a lot of inspiration like that from Wifey but where was River Song? They were in a computer so why couldn't she teleport into it as a computer image too? |
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22nd May 2017, 12:24 PM
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oops wasn't expecting to see that type of episode again after the first five of this series! Will probably be able to judge it better after watching the next two episodes, especially as I appreciated it more once I'd seen the WHOLE episode. Around the halfway mark, I was very unsure about what was going on, where it was leading too etc but I really loved the ending and the explanation of it all. The screen glitching at the start and end of the glimpse into the simulation were great little touches.
It was a really inventive plan for the monsters and it really sets up the threat for the next two parts. I was very unsure about them handling the whole 'why are we here' question but it definitely did all make sense with the simulation concept. Therefore, on reflection, I do think it handled those issues well. At first, I thought the projections were highlighting that the monsters were involved with all the major powers of the world e.g. they were secretly influencing them! The downside to the episode were the flashbacks to Missy. Not that the quality of them weren't good, Missy was of course as AMAZING as ever ('show some respect'!) but they were very much shoe-horned in. Its as though they wanted to show the explanation of the events surrounding the vault and who is in it, so they can play with that in following episodes, but there's no real way to put it in that feels natural. I thought were getting an full blown episode with Missy so it was sad that that wasn't the case. |
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22nd May 2017, 02:09 PM
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you never forget your first time...
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I totally agree about the Missy parts, whilst on their own they were fine and Michelle Gomez was superb as always, they didn't really fit into the flow of the episode much and made it that bit more confusing for a casual viewer I think - too much to keep track of!
I've rewatched the episode now and I think I understand it all. On reflection I think I've decided I really enjoyed the episode, particularly as I've never been the biggest fan of Moffat's overly confusing episodes. It did feel a bit weird coming after five relatively "normal" episodes though, so much for that RTD-style approach :') Bonus points for the Pope interrupting Bill's date, and Nardole's "nothing secret about it, babydoll"
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22nd May 2017, 04:03 PM
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nardole was actually brilliant that episode, first time I felt like I enjoyed him being there
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24th May 2017, 05:34 PM
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I thought this was a good episode and probably the best of the series so far. I'm a sucker for the more complex ones, which is why I'm such a big fan of Series 6 and Moffat's writing generally.
The Missy stuff felt shoehorned in and she was underused, but I'm expecting to see lots of her in the coming episodes so that's OK. I'm interested to see what this whole 'fake world' business means for the finale. This post has been edited by Slick: 24th May 2017, 05:35 PM |
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26th May 2017, 01:03 PM
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It is POSSIBLE that plans are in place for this to at least run up to Series 15!! It is all contained in some documents as they're trying to sell the series to China (as in for a Chinese broadcaster to show it).
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26th May 2017, 01:06 PM
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you never forget your first time...
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QUOTE(Klaus @ May 26 2017, 02:03 PM) It is POSSIBLE that plans are in place for this to at least run up to Series 15!! It is all contained in some documents as they're trying to sell the series to China (as in for a Chinese broadcaster to show it).  now this IS good news! Really great to see that the BBC are still invested in it, I expect it's one of their most successful shows on a worldwide scale (and of course in the UK too).
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26th May 2017, 01:12 PM
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Yeh definitely good news that they're so invested! I would say it should be their most successful drama worldwide and a really big money spinner in terms of all the merchandising too!
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