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 Sep 12 2017, 07:32 PM
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 BuzzJack Idol
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My problem with 'Holler' is that I find it a much weaker version to what everyone else was doing at the time. Fair enough if the girls wanted to make an R&B record, but I wish it at least sounded true to them. Before their debut, various degrees of rock and hip-hop were dominating the charts. Then comes along 'Wannabe', this loud, in-your-face, pop song that just grabs your shoulders and shakes you silly. I've always considered it has a punk spirit about it because it's just so intense and went completely against what was mainstream. For them to then release what I consider a sub-par Destiny's Child single was a sign of regression, for me. Perhaps there's better songs on the album - I've not actually listened to any Spice Girls albums - but 'Holler' is the song that represents the album and I can see why it may have been responsible for their demise. There were so many other acts doing the same sort of sound but much better, so there was nothing to draw people to their music anymore.
That said, I do agree there were other factors involved such as the girls themselves not being fully invested by the time they got round to releasing. Was there any reasons why there was such a wait for them to release their third album? |
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Sep 13 2017, 02:32 AM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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Completely agree with you, cripesdude!
 For me, the most offensive aspect of the Forever album era was its artwork...  I can't believe they couldn't come up with something better than it.  Liam, I'd say the main reason for the delay in releasing a third album, was them letting their solo careers get in the way! They actually started to record third album material in 1998, but all those sessions were scrapped (bar Goodbye). The first half of 1999 saw them have a break from each other, with Mel B & Victoria giving birth earlier that year. Melanie C took the opportunity to record her debut solo album from March to August '99, but the other three girls also spent time in the studio in a solo capacity too. They regrouped in August/September 1999 to start recording together again: 2nd August 1999 - Abbey Road Studios - Stannard/Rowe 1 "Woman" 2 "Treasure" 3 "Go, Go, Go" 4 "Overnight" 5 "Too Hot" ^ All of these tracks remain unreleased and haven't leaked. Woman was performed during the Christmas in Spiceworld 1999 shows, but that was its only outing. 16th August 1999 - Steelworks Studios - Kennedy/Lever 5 "Right Back At Ya" 6 "A Day In Your Life" 7 "Give You What You Want" (Also known as "If It's Lovin' On Your Mind") 8 "Pain Proof" ^ Unreleased, but all leaked in 2015. 25th August 1999 - Whitfield Street Studios - Rodney/Fred Jerkins 9 "Holler" 10 "Let Love Lead The Way" 11 "Weekend Love" 21st September 1999 - Whitfield Street Studios - Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis 12 "Oxygen" 13 "If You Wanna Have Some Fun" Melanie C properly threw herself into 'Northern Star' album promo after those sessions. They had enough material for an album release, but evidently the girls/the label decided that they weren't very keen on the pop songs from their usual collaborators... so they didn't have enough material. The Spice Girls only came together for a couple of occasions over the next 6 months. They toured for a couple of weeks in December 1999 ('Christmas in Spiceworld' - where they performed Holler for the first time), and then performed at the Brit Awards in March 2000 (also performing Holler - but their performance of it wasn't televised). They didn't start working on the Forever album again until... 10th April 2000 - Miami - Rodney/Fred Jerkins 14 "Tell Me Why" 15 "Get Down With Me" 16 "Time Goes By" 3 months later, a final session occurred... 17th July 2000 - Whitfield Street Studios - Fred Jerkins 17 "Wasting My Time" ^ Jerkins also re-worked 'Right Back at Ya' with an R&B production and new vocals. July 2000 is when the Spice Girls finally got to work on properly beginning the era - shooting the videos for Holler & Let Love Lead The Way! They received their radio/video premieres in September 2000, and finally released the single in October, and the album in November. Interestingly Mel B insisted that the debut album she'd been working on at the same time - Hot - was released in October 2000, colliding with the comeback. Melanie C continued to promote her own album & even embarked on a solo tour throughout the Spice Girls' promotional schedule. Their solo endeavours lead to the US promo being carried out by Emma & Victoria alone, which didn't exactly show a united front & obviously they couldn't perform there. Their US floppage was pretty inevitable! The lack of commitment wasn't all on Melanie C & Mel B though, they were probably all to blame. Emma worked on her own solo album from July 1999 to October 2000, to eventually release it in April 2001, while Victoria also dabbled with solo recording as early as 1999, through to 2001. Summer 2000 saw her release 'Out of Your Mind', with a very intense promotional schedule! So really, it was all quite a mess - month long gaps between recording sessions, while they all seemed to prioritise their solo work over getting a move on with the group. The time between Spiceworld & Forever was evidently very busy for them all, but allowing 3 years to pass between group album releases was unwise. I think they really should have pushed to have got it out for Quarter 4 1999 instead. (Sorry for the essay )
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Sep 22 2017, 12:19 AM
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"Overnight" is from the "Spice" Album biff confirmed January 6 2013 Twitter, maybe there are two overnight songs or a reworked version.
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Sep 23 2017, 09:06 AM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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Discusses her favourite & least favourite make-up looks from the Spice Girls days. For worst look, she says AMAs but she really means the VMAs in 1997 (because she's referenced this event in the past as their worst make-up look). It's not hard to see why!  
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Oct 4 2017, 04:35 PM
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Saw a copy of 'Step To Me' in a charity shop today *.* what do you guys think of this song? I really like it, but I remember playing it on plug.dj before and opinion was mixed.
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Oct 5 2017, 10:22 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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QUOTE(Jade-o-Lantern🎃 @ Oct 4 2017, 05:35 PM)  Saw a copy of 'Step To Me' in a charity shop today *.* what do you guys think of this song? I really like it, but I remember playing it on plug.dj before and opinion was mixed. Step To Me is amazing, one of my favourites from the 5-piece eras actually. The live version is even better - and sexier! |
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Oct 8 2017, 05:35 AM
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Will this thread turn into a mess like it did on DenDen about the potential reunion?
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Oct 8 2017, 06:41 AM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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Lmao, I doubt any thread on BuzzJack could ever hope to achieve that level of messiness.
I do kind of miss that thread, yet at the same time I feel a sense of relief that it's gone too. That thread, via the many fans who posted in it, really kept my hopes for a reunion alive on a near daily basis. Every article posted, every discussion that stemmed from them, provided a glimmer of hope... only for it to come to nothing. For the past month though, I've barely read anything about a reunion/people willing for it to happen... so I've actually started to feel far less bothered about the prospect of it! |
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Nov 12 2017, 01:36 AM
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Alone and wounded
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Omg guys I have just rediscovered this site I made when I was about 13
the use of Comic Sans on the homepage *____*http://spicegirlscollection.webs.com/ |
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Nov 19 2017, 12:30 AM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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^ ! Iconic *.*
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Nov 19 2017, 12:50 AM
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BuzzJack Idol
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Omfg love it!! *.*
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Dec 4 2017, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(Jade-o-Lantern�� @ Oct 4 2017, 04:35 PM) Saw a copy of 'Step To Me' in a charity shop today *.* what do you guys think of this song? I really like it, but I remember playing it on plug.dj before and opinion was mixed. Omg it's amazing! Did you buy it? Yah, I doubt there will be a reunion, and definitely not ith VB. The press has finally left her alone, but before they were always criticising her for singing, like schoolyard bullies. They need Mel C. It's a shame not one of them became a great songwriter like Gary Barlow, as that could have given them a reunion on another level, and actually given them a better 3rd album. |
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Dec 4 2017, 03:21 PM
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Also, where is all this spam/ what was it??
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Dec 5 2017, 10:40 AM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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^ Those threads have been cleared out, it was a load of spam accounts/posts.
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Dec 9 2017, 11:57 AM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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The campaign for Calvin Harris to remix a Spice Girls classic
Calvin Harris is under pressure to remix the Spice Girls classic 2 become 1 after he told another DJ he'd do it if same-sex marriage was legalised in Australia. Now the law has been changed, people think Calvin should stick to his word. Even Baby Spice Emma Bunton's got involved. Australian DJ Filip Odzak told Newsbeat: "He shook my hand on the deal. I have been waiting for this pot of gold at the end of this proverbial rainbow for five years!" He's text Calvin to remind him.  https://twitter.com/FILIP_WithAnF/status/938722762150985728 The pair met during the Stereosonic festival in Sydney back in 2012. Filip explains: "Calvin did a show and a crew of us came along and hung out in the backstage bar / green room. "The conversation turned to the topic of wedding songs, I chimed in and said mine would be Spice Girls 2 become 1 and everyone had a giggle. "Calvin was shocked when we told him that gay marriage wasn't a reality in Australia yet. "I vividly remember his face, he was in genuine shock. "I said to him when they finally legalise it you can remix 2 become 1 to celebrate. "He 100% would have thought it was a laugh, and lets be honest, it's a one in a million conversation, but he shook my hand on the deal." Filip wants the song remixed so he can play it at his wedding some day. "It's a total gay bridal waltz anthem," he tells us. Even Baby Spice is on board with the idea. Emma Bunton told Newsbeat: "Let's spice up Calvin Harris! It would be fab for Calvin to remix 2 become 1. "It's always been my favourite Spice Girls song and next week it will be 21 years since it was released as a single. "I'm so happy to be celebrating same sex marriage equality in Australia, as a Spice Girl it's something I've been wishing for forever! Love always wins." http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/4228...e-girls-classic ======================= This would be incredibly cool, but I don't think Calvin has acknowledged this yet!
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Dec 11 2017, 03:00 PM
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BuzzJack Enthusiast
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I just hope it doesn't suck LOL
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Dec 15 2017, 09:14 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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I've only just found out that people have been debating what Vic says in Holler for years. Surely if it is the bit I think it is the line is 'when I walked through that door'.
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Dec 15 2017, 11:33 AM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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Lol that's the first time I've heard that particular suggestion, Sammy
 I think it's generally accepted that it begins "and I won't tell...". Can be heard most clearly here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk0VPJihBxg&t=1m41s although personally I can hear "and I won't tell" in the studio version too. But the two words afterwards are unintelligible to me. It sounds like "nah nah" but this has never satisfied me as an answer because it's nonsensical.I wish DenDen was still up because recently there was a poll and there were literally over 30 suggestions for what it could be. :') |
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Dec 15 2017, 12:58 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Im certain it's when I walked in that door.
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Dec 15 2017, 03:46 PM
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"Jayrusaleminians" - Umi.
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Fair enough (although she's clearly not singing that)
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