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Sweetener • 4th Album, 17th August 2018

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LewisGT View member profile	Aug 17 2018, 10:39 PM Post #281
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 7 February 2013 Posts: 11,952 User: 18,293	I fully love this now. Shame to see it's getting a slightly underwhelming reaction. I do understand disliking Pharrell's production. He certainly has a very distinctive sound that he rarely varies from but fortunately I've always been a fan. He has some absolute classics in his back catalogue.


Jordanlee View member profile	Aug 17 2018, 11:01 PM Post #282
Jord Joined: 12 March 2017 Posts: 10,760 User: 27,116	QUOTE(LewisGT @ Aug 17 2018, 11:39 PM) I fully love this now. Shame to see it's getting a slightly underwhelming reaction. I do understand disliking Pharrell's production. He certainly has a very distinctive sound that he rarely varies from but fortunately I've always been a fan. He has some absolute classics in his back catalogue. I’m with you on this one! I’ve always liked Pharrell and he’s brought out her versatility to showcase her voice in different genres on this record. I have a feeling the album will grow on people if they give it a chance though. It feels like when I first heard Rihanna’s ANTi and I thought wtf on first listen then it got better and better after


UltraCruelSummer View member profile	Aug 17 2018, 11:12 PM Post #283
It's a cruel summer. Joined: 26 May 2014 Posts: 35,253 User: 20,947	Yeah I'm so disappointed with this I'm not a fan in the slightest of Pharrell and all his production blends into one forgettable and dull mix for me in general and my worries in him being so prominent on this album came true It's not a dreadful album, I only strongly dislike a couple of songs, but most of it is just meh and does nothing for me. At least I got one of my fave songs of the past few years in NTLTC and I love Breathin/God Is A Woman and I'm here for Everytime/Goodnight n go. Hopefully others will grow but I strongly doubt it I also love raindrops, I just wish it was a full song.


Atonement View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 08:43 AM Post #284
I just had to see your face to feel alive Joined: 22 February 2010 Posts: 6,910 User: 10,676	I think Pharell has great songs and the songs that he did with Britney for example are some of my favorites in her discography ('Boys' & 'I'm a Slave 4 U'), but this is 2018 and it just doesn't really work that well anymore + Ariana can't really sell tracks like that as hard as she tries. I actually really enjoyed N.E.R.D's album last year but these songs feel like Pharell by numbers again. 'God is a Woman' and 'No Tears Left to Cry' are the only songs I want to keep.


JulianNial View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 10:10 AM Post #285
Julian Nial Joined: 13 March 2013 Posts: 6,380 User: 18,454	The album needed 'My Way', instead of maybe Successful or Sweetener.


inactiveaccount View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 10:10 AM Post #286
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 3 August 2006 Posts: 24,289 User: 1,030	The album is perfect. It actually feels like the album I was expecting us to get after ‘christmas & chill’. Highlights are ‘rem’, ‘everytime’, ‘goodnight n go’ and ‘breathin’. ‘Light is coming’ is the only song I cant get into.


Slick View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 10:13 AM Post #287
electric butterflies Pronouns: he/him Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 49,113 User: 70	I listened to this last night expecting to be underwhelmed (only because of the general online reaction), but I really enjoyed it! It's no 'Dangerous Woman' but there are some choons and Ariana's voice elevates anything she sings. 'Breathin' is my fave apart from the singles - it HAS to be a single at some point.


Jordanlee View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 10:26 AM Post #288
Jord Joined: 12 March 2017 Posts: 10,760 User: 27,116	3. God is a Woman 5. Breathin 12. No Tears Left to Cry 22. Sweetener 23. R.E.M 25. Raindrops (An Angel Cried) 27. Everytime 32. Blazed ft. Pharrell Williams 38. Pete Davidson 40. Successful 42. Goodnight n Go 46. The Light is Coming ft. Nicki Minaj 47. Better Off 50. Get Well Soon 51. Borderline ft. Missy Elliott Spotify takeover This post has been edited by Jordan Lee: Aug 18 2018, 10:27 AM


Slick View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 11:16 AM Post #289
electric butterflies Pronouns: he/him Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 49,113 User: 70	QUOTE(Slick @ Aug 18 2018, 11:13 AM) I listened to this last night expecting to be underwhelmed (only because of the general online reaction), but I really enjoyed it! It's no 'Dangerous Woman' but there are some choons and Ariana's voice elevates anything she sings. 'Breathin' is my fave apart from the singles - it HAS to be a single at some point. My rank of songs on second listen (I reserve the right to completely change my mind) The bottom half is quite forgettable for me at this stage. No Tears Left To Cry God Is A Woman Breathin Sweetener Successful R.E.M Borderline Blazed The Light Is Coming Goodnight n go Everytime Better Off Get Well Soon Pete Davidson


Tafty³³³ View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 11:17 AM Post #290
I found the love, I found the love in me Pronouns: He/Him Joined: 13 December 2007 Posts: 87,432 User: 5,042	GIAW and Breathin top 5? Amazing. I'm so happy with those Spotify numbers!! Edit: also 4th listen in, I'm really enjoying this album.


J00prstar View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 11:23 AM Post #291
there's nothing straight about plump Elvis Pronouns: they/any Joined: 21 January 2016 Posts: 13,133 User: 22,895	QUOTE(kye @ Aug 17 2018, 11:32 PM) it’s the album she should have been allowed to make next. this was her chance to fully cement herself as the #1 pop girl + she doesn’t deliver a pop album? i’m with you guys that are disappointed. it’s when i think about what it could have been. Agree with this 100% Also especially in the UK she had a real chance to capitalize on Manchester (as awful as that sounds) raising her profile and exposing her to a much wider audience. I can't believe there's not one safe pop song here that could've been a bona fide MOR hit, something along the lines of One Last Time. Instead she decides now to have her experimental Pharrell album. Seriously becoming #1 pop girl was hers to lose and she quite happily has done that. I'm impressed she experimented a bit but this really feels like overkill.


Andrew. View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 11:34 AM Post #292
is in hibernation Joined: 24 August 2014 Posts: 11,385 User: 21,161	So disappointed in this album. I grew to love the two singles (let’s not talk about The Light Is Coming ;o) but the Pharrell production doesn’t work and doesn’t grab me. Even ‘Breathin’...like Tawdry I listened to that one first hoping for a bop but it didn't grab me at all :’( There are some lovely, heartfelt moments but I’m not sure what she was thinking with this.


Theonix View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 12:23 PM Post #293
BUY Phoenix on Amazon / STREAM Phoenix on Spotify Joined: 12 April 2009 Posts: 27,431 User: 8,661	I'm only on my second listen but have to agree that there's no stand out bops. "Breathin" is the closest we get but even then I'm not loving it as much as I hoped I would. 'Dangerous Woman' was such a cohesive album that really surprised me with its quality so I'm just disappointed that we've been left with a load of Pharrell rejects "Successful" is the worst by far, I can't stop cringing at the lyrics.


HarryBorelli View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 12:32 PM Post #294
The Lady Said Go Home! Pronouns: He/Him Joined: 20 April 2014 Posts: 22,029 User: 20,835	Im a flop mod and havent commented about this yet... I adore the sinlges and even The Light Is Coming is growing on me a lot. In terms of album tracks Breathin, Borderline (yes I know a lot of people dont like it but I really do) and Goodnight N Go are my favourites However, on the whole, I feel a bit let down on the basis of the album as a whole.


HausofKubrick View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 01:02 PM Post #295
⬛ Joined: 17 February 2011 Posts: 56,202 User: 13,007	Borderline


HausofKubrick View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 01:14 PM Post #296
⬛ Joined: 17 February 2011 Posts: 56,202 User: 13,007	On the issue of PHARRELL IS THE DEVIL CANCEL HIM, he is capable of absolute GOLD. My issue isn't just how similar a lot of it is throughout the album (it works to give the album a thematic and sonic consistency) but how it almost works against Ariana's airy vocals. NTLTC was very disjointed in the best possible way but an entire album of it is fairly draining and will require a lot of listens to get used to. Time I am willing to give it though! I like the album on first listen and I'm hoping it grows a fair bit especially in time for TOUR.


kye View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 01:26 PM Post #297
• aesthetic party • Joined: 11 December 2006 Posts: 6,348 User: 2,169	QUOTE(HausofTove @ Aug 18 2018, 02:14 PM) On the issue of PHARRELL IS THE DEVIL CANCEL HIM, he is capable of absolute GOLD. My issue isn't just how similar a lot of it is throughout the album (it works to give the album a thematic and sonic consistency) but how it almost works against Ariana's airy vocals. NTLTC was very disjointed in the best possible way but an entire album of it is fairly draining and will require a lot of listens to get used to. Time I am willing to give it though! I like the album on first listen and I'm hoping it grows a fair bit especially in time for TOUR. no tears isn’t pharrell - it’s max + co! can’t you tell?! it’s vastly superior haha.


Dexton View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 01:36 PM Post #298
rip in peace Dickston Joined: 29 January 2017 Posts: 9,533 User: 25,045	Camila, Man Of The Woods, and Sweetener The three albums that have been mainly Pharrell produced this year so far right? There might be more but these feel like the big three. No one seemed to have an issue with his presence on Camila (10 songs) yet MOTW (16 songs) and now Sweetener (15 songs) haven’t been as warmed received. Personally I’ve loved all three of them, MOTW especially, but I do see where some people are coming from and blaming Pharrell for “screwing up” her album is a logical assumption. Perhaps what was needed was to just cut a few songs, maybe merge Raindrops & Get Well Soon or something. It looks as if some people are struggled to sit through the album so shortening it (and in the process making it more cohesive) could’ve made a huge difference. Same goes for the track listing which is all fine apart from the beginning


HausofKubrick View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 01:40 PM Post #299
⬛ Joined: 17 February 2011 Posts: 56,202 User: 13,007	QUOTE(kye @ Aug 18 2018, 02:26 PM) no tears isn’t pharrell - it’s max + co! can’t you tell?! it’s vastly superior haha. Ahh yes of course! But the album as a whole including that has a disjointed feel to it. It works wonderfully in NTLTC so I guess that's Max's magic! <3


Travis View member profile	Aug 18 2018, 01:45 PM Post #300
hi Joined: 11 July 2015 Posts: 1,424 User: 22,135	I'm usually really into Pharrell's production, but this album is really just not good. Such a bland follow up to the iconic Dangerous Woman era.