What Cardi's age and skin tone have to do with it: they shouldn't have anything to do with it.

But the media has a long, looong history (in the US especially) of a hierarchy. Side with white women over black women, white men over white women, and in cases like these, the lighter girl over the darker girl.

This is pretty basic 101 stuff and ironically is similar to the stuff Kim and Missy had to deal with when Nicki first came out. Or look at Iggy as another example. The media jump onside because for some reason a lighter skinned woman is viewed/treated as more palatable or marketable. It's all completely fake. Beyonce would be another example.

As Nicki has alluded to in her recent work and interviews etc. already certain parts of the media are looking to paint her as the bad guy and would you look at that, she's older than she was when she was more definitively popular. The media love to pit two women against each other especially when you can slam an older woman by uplifting a younger one who can be portrayed as her 'rival' or 'the new her'. Again, look at Gaga-Madonna, or even Britney-Madonna back in the day, or how Mariah Carey was treated at first when she first came out and the media thought she was white.

Essentially a lot of the support Cardi gets from certain corners is due more to these factors and the narrative they can make around it than actually that people agree with her and want to support her for her herself.

As to the issue, did Nicki even say anything? She might have liked a tweet, wow, what a bitch, unforgivable.

And since when is calling someone a bad mother sacrilege? She sure didn't come across like a great role model here getting involved in a punch up at a classy event like this. Or starting fights with multiple women her husband cheated on her with.

Nicki has made some mistakes this era but seriously dragging her through the mud because she didn't involve herself in a fight some other girl pulled on her based on hearsay of something she may or may not have done? I'm team Nicki here.

On the other hand you have Cardi who's literally famous for always being raring to have a fight with someone, that was her whole deal on Love & Hip Hop.

Like I said earlier in the thread if she wants to survive in this industry she's got to get herself a thicker skin or she'll end up crossing the wrong person and ending up in serious bother. Better hope she never has beef with Remy or she might end up worse than getting an elbowing!

Has Nicki actually denied anything though? In fact, her response from Queen Radio today: “This is about ‘get this woman some f***ing help.’ This woman is at the best stage in her career and she’s out here throwing bottles and throwing shoes!? Who the f*** is gonna give her a f***ing intervention? You n—as don’t care until someone is dead! You n—as want someone to f***ing die until y’all stop… until y’all stop this bullshit. You put your hands on certain people, you gon’ die. Period!”

Basically she's annoyed that she was on the receiving end of the retaliation from Cardi. Despite quite obviously knowing she started it. Unfortunately, it seems Cardi played right into her hands...

Honestly though if we're comparing their wrongdoings, all we have to do is look at Nicki collaborating with and actively supporting a paedophile.

You can criticize someone as a parent without criticizing their kid. Tbh I think it's being a little precious to act like parents are above criticism. Especially when the person in question is someone like Cardi who seems to always have messiness attached to her.

Can you honestly say if someone like that was your colleague you'd never make any shady remarks?

Idk I guess I'm just not so easily offended. This might be a where you're from thing too.

Why does anyone criticize anyone? Why do we have opinions and write them on a forum when it's not our place to have any opinions about other people?

Way I see it, what's done is done and in my book it really wasn't a serious thing in the first place anyway. Fine for others to have different opinions though.

Must say I look forward to skipping forward ten years and seeing what fights Cardi's getting into with the new kids on the block or anyone she deems a threat :')

Anyway there's beef and there's coming at someone physically so you have to be restrained and kicked out. One is part of the game, one is part of a more dangerous game.

That’s my main view on the whole thing.
It’s one thing releasing a diss track or making comments on someone, but it’s a completely different thing to physically go for them...it’s all part of the rap game, I’m sure Nicki never ended to have an actual fight with her. It’s so embarrassing to watch and like Nicki said on her radio show, at an event like that as well 🤡

Neither of them are in the right but I find it hard to be on Cardi’s side after seeing the footage.