So what do we expect to happen now?

Well she should resign with immediate effect but won't. We should have a caretaker PM to try and get a better deal.

Well she should resign with immediate effect but won't. We should have a caretaker PM to try and get a better deal.

EU have been clear as day that we can have this or we can have EEA or we can stay or we can have f*** all. This won’t change things for them. At the end of the day they’ve got to look out for their members.

This is an insane defeat. Far far far above what I expected. I’m annoyed that we’re wasting another day playing fantasy PM for Corbyn. A defeat tomorrow for May is unlikely I’d say. It’ll be close but I can’t see enough Tories voting for their own deselection by siding with Corbyn (as that’s what they’ve allegedly been threatened with). He’d better suck it up and back a new referendum when his waste of time motion fails. We need to get this farce called off so we can start to fix the actual problems of this country.

EU have been clear as day that we can have this or we can have EEA or we can stay or we can have f*** all. This won’t change things for them. At the end of the day they’ve got to look out for their members.

No we don't need another referendum at all. We can and hopefully now will leave with No Deal. We must leave in March as that's what I and a majority of the electorate voted for.

Absolute mess.

So, you don't think they would be affected much economically by a 'no deal' despite what the Brexiteers say?

Indeed.

I do think a second referendum will eventually have to take place, even if that's going to upset a lot of people in the country, as there doesn't seem to be any deal that will go through Parliament.

I saw this coming she would lose it, the thing is she created a mess that needs to be ironed out first, not sure if a GE is appropriate at the moment, but I could see that happen at some point.

No we don't need another referendum at all. We can and hopefully now will leave with No Deal. We must leave in March as that's what I and a majority of the electorate voted for.

The thing is, a General Election is unlikely to happen because of the Fixed Term Parliament Act - which makes a GE very unlikely. Thanks Clegg. Furthermore, polling isn't moving anyway from where it was in 2017, so it would be likely that if it happened, that it would return a similar result to the one we currently have, and so wouldn't fundamentally change anything.

The only options going forward are IMO:

*Leave with no deal on 29 March - which seems unlikely given it will be absolutely catastrophic. Though it is the current default option - e.g. if nothing changes in next 73 days.
*Extension of Article 50 - seems inevitable now given the scale of the defeat and the substantive changes she will need to make to the deal to get the deal to pass.
*Renegotiation with the EU - absolute non-starter, as the EU have already confirmed. This is favoured by the Brexiteers in the Cabinet.
*Second referendum (or 'PEople's Vote') - also unlikely as there is no majority for this in Parliament. Majority still want to 'respect the vote'. Huge splits could occur in Labour if this was tabled, so looks unlikely.
*Build cross-party support for a softer Brexit with Labour MPs that guarantees initial move to a 'softer Brexit' with EFTA model adopted. Most likely option at the moment.

It's a total mess.

What do you think that means? What do you think will be the consequences of dropping out of over 700 international agreements to which we are a party as a member of the EU? What do you think it will do to our international standing if we just walk away from our obligations? Why would any other country trust the UK to stick to future agreements? Are you happy to see hefty price rises after imports have tariffs slapped on them (as much as 40% in some cases)? What would you like to say to people who lose their jobs when export markets collapse as a result of the same tariffs?