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Suedehead2
post 3rd May 2019, 06:38 PM
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The result from Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole is brilliant. The Tories stitched this up in the expectation that it would have a permanent massive Tory majority. At its first election, the Tories are the largest party, but without a majority.
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post 3rd May 2019, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 3 2019, 07:38 PM) *
The result from Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole is brilliant. The Tories stitched this up in the expectation that it would have a permanent massive Tory majority. At its first election, the Tories are the largest party, but without a majority.


YES! I'm going to enjoy the new Council at work.

On the down side, my predictions about locating the voting hall next to the doctor's surgery proved prophetic - a large-ish victory for a UKIP Butler and a Tory Butt.

I'm not making it up..... laugh.gif
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post 3rd May 2019, 07:10 PM
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The DUP have just had their first ever openly gay councillor elected. *grabs popcorn*.
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post 3rd May 2019, 07:25 PM
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I live in a very pro-Remain area, Tories have taken a kicking here (were coalition partners before). No-one with a majority, but Lib Dems made huge gains and I suspect they will merge with the Greens to form a majority.
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post 3rd May 2019, 07:28 PM
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I voted in York (where Labour got the three seats by quite a way) but back in my hometown there's an official independent party and they took all 26 seats. Cue people moaning on Facebook about dictatorships.

I also have a flatmate who stood for the Conservatives in the Local Elections and a few weeks ago didn't know where he was standing :')
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post 3rd May 2019, 07:36 PM
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The Tory c**ts crown jewel council in the north, Trafford, is now in the hands of Labour. I'm cackling a little at this.

Tories, Labour and UKIP all down varying degrees is what they deserve.
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post 3rd May 2019, 07:41 PM
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It weird how the results are being interpreted as 'people want us to get on with Brexit' by May and other Tories

The two biggest opposition parties to leaving the EU (Lib Dem and Greens) have gained nearly 1000 seats between them. Whereas pro Brexit parties (Troy/ UKIP) have lost nearly 1500 seats between them.

To me those results indicate people don't want Brexit rather than they want us to get on with it


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post 3rd May 2019, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ May 3 2019, 08:12 AM) *
today - it is likely still to be Tory, but fingers crossed Tories stayed at home pissed off. Good luck with the count! Suedey for PM!


The good news is that I did something very few Lib Dem candidates managed in Brighton & Hove - I beat a Green candidate. The bad news is I didn't beat anyone else laugh.gif That just means my original assessment of my chances of winning - somewhere between extremely remote and zero - proved to be accurate.
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post 3rd May 2019, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ May 3 2019, 08:41 PM) *
It weird how the results are being interpreted as 'people want us to get on with Brexit' by May and other Tories

The two biggest opposition parties to leaving the EU (Lib Dem and Greens) have gained nearly 1000 seats between them. Whereas pro Brexit parties (Troy/ UKIP) have lost nearly 1500 seats between them.

To me those results indicate people don't want Brexit rather than they want us to get on with it

It's bad enough having the Tories (and many Labour people) spin the results that way. It's even worse when BBC commentators do exactly the same.
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post 3rd May 2019, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 3 2019, 09:04 PM) *
The good news is that I did something very few Lib Dem candidates managed in Brighton & Hove - I beat a Green candidate. The bad news is I didn't beat anyone else laugh.gif That just means my original assessment of my chances of winning - somewhere between extremely remote and zero - proved to be accurate.


Ooh, I didn't realise you were standing. Commiserations, although great respect for anyone who puts themselves forward for election - one day I'll step up myself.
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post 3rd May 2019, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ May 3 2019, 07:34 PM) *
I think the significant gain in seats for the Green Party is really significant though. I feel they’ve always been consistent in their support base, with just a few seats here and there but this feels like the first step into the proper mainstream. If it was UKIP/Brexit Party doing the same, it would be headline news. And I’m neither a Green Party voter nor someone who complains about the stance of reporting


I'm hoping that this means that the issue of the environment and climate change is starting to enter the public consciousness and show that the government can't keep ignoring it, even if they don't do amazingly, if they continue making gains, it would be good. They're certainly my party of choice for the moment (Admittedly I have voted Lib Dems and Labour in the past, won't touch the latter with a bargepole right now).

Very pleasing gains for Left Wing parties and some very deserved failures for Conservative and Labour. Ridiculous spin on the issue by May but I expected nothing less, hopefully it's at least made them take notice and the European Elections can go a similar way in a few weeks.
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post 3rd May 2019, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 3 2019, 09:04 PM) *
The good news is that I did something very few Lib Dem candidates managed in Brighton & Hove - I beat a Green candidate. The bad news is I didn't beat anyone else laugh.gif That just means my original assessment of my chances of winning - somewhere between extremely remote and zero - proved to be accurate.

Come to think of it, I don't think any other Lib Dem candidate actually achieved that there so fair play to you!
(My mistake, one other did oops)


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post 3rd May 2019, 08:36 PM
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The Lib Dems totally swept up my constituency at least. The council was already firmly in their control but they extended their lead even further.
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post 3rd May 2019, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(coi @ May 3 2019, 09:26 PM) *
Come to think of it, I don't think any other Lib Dem candidate actually achieved that there so fair play to you!
(My mistake, one other did oops)

I assume you mean the other Lib Dem in my ward. She actually beat two Greens ohmy.gif
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post 3rd May 2019, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 3 2019, 09:49 PM) *
I assume you mean the other Lib Dem in my ward. She actually beat two Greens ohmy.gif

Wow, I didn't spot that! Great achievement that!
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post 3rd May 2019, 08:58 PM
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A Lib Dem beating a Green candidate is a lot less of an achievement here, we have candidates from the five main parties but the Lib Dems still sweep up more than 50% of the vote!
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post 3rd May 2019, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 3 2019, 07:28 PM) *
It is perfectly true that the Lib Dem results need to be put into context. That said, they have done a lot better than simply winning back the seats they lost four years ago when their results were dreadful. Similarly, Labour's results four years ago were not great, so to do even worse than that is a terrible result for them.

Here in Brighton and Hove, the Lib Dems matched their national performance by doubling their number of seats. To zero.


Did you stand SH? Or did I read something wrong somewhere?!
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post 3rd May 2019, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ May 3 2019, 08:41 PM) *
It weird how the results are being interpreted as 'people want us to get on with Brexit' by May and other Tories

The two biggest opposition parties to leaving the EU (Lib Dem and Greens) have gained nearly 1000 seats between them. Whereas pro Brexit parties (Troy/ UKIP) have lost nearly 1500 seats between them.

To me those results indicate people don't want Brexit rather than they want us to get on with it


I think the European elections in a few weeks will show us the state of this question!
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post 3rd May 2019, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 3 2019, 09:06 PM) *
It's bad enough having the Tories (and many Labour people) spin the results that way. It's even worse when BBC commentators do exactly the same.

Yep. Laura Kuenssberg also saying on her podcast that the Labour and Tory results are equally terrible (they're not), but excusing the Tories' results because 'it's normal for a sitting government to lose ground mid electoral cycle' (it is, but the scale of the defeats are is absolutely extraordinary and far worse than the end-of-days Gordon Brown elections of 2008 and 2009) whereas the Labour results are 'even worse' because the opposition should be gaining ground (they should, but their stagnation is nowhere near as bad as the Tory rout).
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post 3rd May 2019, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(coi @ May 3 2019, 09:58 PM) *
A Lib Dem beating a Green candidate is a lot less of an achievement here, we have candidates from the five main parties but the Lib Dems still sweep up more than 50% of the vote!


Brighton and Hove is one of the few places in the country where a Lib Dem candidate beating a Green candidate is vaguely newsworthy!


QUOTE(Steve201 @ May 3 2019, 09:59 PM) *
Did you stand SH? Or did I read something wrong somewhere?!


Yes.

QUOTE(Harve @ May 3 2019, 10:12 PM) *
Yep. Laura Kuenssberg also saying on her podcast that the Labour and Tory results are equally terrible (they're not), but excusing the Tories' results because 'it's normal for a sitting government to lose ground mid electoral cycle' (it is, but the scale of the defeats are is absolutely extraordinary and far worse than the end-of-days Gordon Brown elections of 2008 and 2009) whereas the Labour results are 'even worse' because the opposition should be gaining ground (they should, but their stagnation is nowhere near as bad as the Tory rout).


But the scale of the Tories' losses makes Labour's results look particularly bad. The governing party lost over 1,300 seats but the main opposition party also managed to suffer net losses. That is a failure on a pretty spectacular scale.
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