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Popchartfreak
post 18th June 2019, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jun 18 2019, 05:56 AM) *
Does everyone hear think that Boris will be our version of Trump?


He already is in many ways. Rich. Wife-cheater. habitual liar. useless at his jobs. supports the rich does nothing for the poor. Fools people into thinking he's on their side when he isn't. Lies all the time. Can't be let loose with journalists cos he'll just cock it up when someone asks a question he can't answer. Only cares about himself. Wants power and money. Unscrupulous. Lies.

Only difference is he's not aggressive, mentally unstable, deliberately hateful, nor anywhere near as dumb, so yay for Johnson.
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post 18th June 2019, 07:17 AM
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Front page of a rag trying to undermine Rory Stewart:

He may have worked for MI5!

In other words, risking your life spying for your country makes you a danger, while getting British citizens bunged in prison abroad and habitually lying and causing the national crisis that no-one has any idea how to sort out makes you suitable to run the country.

What a world, what a world...[melts into a heap].
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post 18th June 2019, 07:19 AM
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He’s certainly in the same archetype of politician, a bullish populist that is always playing a zero-sum game to get ahead of everyone else no matter the cost to the country. Just look at how he takes credit for his mayoral tenure, very style over substance with policies from the previous mayor taken credit for, making it all about him. He’s a brand, an egotistical brand and he’s very much what a British version of Trump would look like.
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post 18th June 2019, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jun 18 2019, 05:56 AM) *
Does everyone hear think that Boris will be our version of Trump?




If you mean a great leader, then yes I certainly do. He'll bring as breath of fresh air and humor and personality in to No.10 as Donald's done to the White House.
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post 18th June 2019, 08:08 AM
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In a shocking new poll of Tory members who all get a vote for the next PM, a majority want Brexit delivered even if it causes a Scottish independence, Irish reunification, severe damage to the economy and the Tories being destroyed.

Only at the risk of Corbyn becoming PM, would they be willing to lose Brexit.


YouGuv poll June 11-14


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post 18th June 2019, 08:22 AM
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Y'all have truly lost it as a country lmaooo
I hope the Scottish get their independence, you're welcome back Scots x
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post 18th June 2019, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(*Tim @ Jun 18 2019, 09:22 AM) *
I hope the Scottish get their independence, you're welcome back Scots x

Please save us, we have done nothing wrong.

Think Raab will be lent votes from Johnson supporters to keep him in over the others, as well as other BJ supporters giving their votes to Hunt as he's the easiest candidate to beat. He has enough support for there to be dirty tricks like that.
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post 18th June 2019, 11:05 AM
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By hook or by crook we will be a full blooded EU member state one day soon. Keep the UK's empty seat warm for us x
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post 18th June 2019, 01:20 PM
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And whatever's left of England and Wales, one day, eventually. This will never be a permanent decision, the demographics alone should tell you that.

QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 18 2019, 08:08 AM) *
In a shocking new poll of Tory members who all get a vote for the next PM, a majority want Brexit delivered even if it causes a Scottish independence, Irish reunification, severe damage to the economy and the Tories being destroyed.

Only at the risk of Corbyn becoming PM, would they be willing to lose Brexit.
YouGuv poll June 11-14


This hilariously divorced from reality leaflet was sent to party members:

https://i.imgur.com/VlENLQV.jpg

The debate opened with it too. The most important thing on the minds of the Tory party is not the impending crisis that they themselves caused, it's that they must cover up their inability to offer anything concrete by pointing at a bogeyman who in a time of non-Brexit would quite plausibly have been the prime minister this country desperately needed. Corbyn is just like Brexit but on a different axis (and not doing so well currently though I bet on a campaign trail he'd redeem himself), he's a rallying cry to half of society and the devil to the other half.
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post 18th June 2019, 05:22 PM
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Johnson 126
Hunt 46
Gove 41
Stewart 37
Javid 33

Raab Out

Next vote tomorrow and then Thursday then last MP's vote next Tuesday if required.

Debate 8pm tonight BBC1. Will Boris turn up. News is he's going to be there!!! ohmy.gif


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post 18th June 2019, 05:26 PM
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Can Stewart overtake Hunt and Gove to go up against Boris in the last two membership run-off? Getting a bit exciting now.

Hunt not doing as well as some thought.
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post 18th June 2019, 07:02 PM
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Is Rory Stewart really, really tall, or are the rest just very small? I have a feeling that there'll be complaints that the BBC have purposely chosen chairs that are too big for the guys sitting on them to make Rory look more "statesmanlike".
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post 18th June 2019, 07:04 PM
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I've been spending all day wondering why Rory Stewart potentially being a spy is a bad thing and have come up with nothing

really confused
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post 18th June 2019, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Jun 18 2019, 08:04 PM) *
I've been spending all day wondering why Rory Stewart potentially being a spy is a bad thing and have come up with nothing

really confused


He's sort of sane by Tory standards so everything he does is unacceptable. Obvz.
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post 18th June 2019, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 18 2019, 08:43 AM) *
If you mean a great leader, then yes I certainly do. He'll bring as breath of fresh air and humor and personality in to No.10 as Donald's done to the White House.

When did trustworthiness get deleted from the list of attributes required of a great leader?
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post 18th June 2019, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 18 2019, 09:08 AM) *
In a shocking new poll of Tory members who all get a vote for the next PM, a majority want Brexit delivered even if it causes a Scottish independence, Irish reunification, severe damage to the economy and the Tories being destroyed.

Only at the risk of Corbyn becoming PM, would they be willing to lose Brexit.
YouGuv poll June 11-14

Can you imagine the headlines of there was a Labour government and a poll that showed members to be in favour of a policy even if it meant the break-up of the country and severe damage to the economy? The calls for them to be charged with treason would be deafening. This promotion of ideology over the national interest sums up today's Tory party very well.
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post 18th June 2019, 07:29 PM
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Never heard so much shite spewed in my life. None of these guys have a clue how to deliver Brexit
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post 18th June 2019, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jun 18 2019, 08:29 PM) *
Never heard so much shite spewed in my life. None of these guys have a clue how to deliver Brexit


Thanks, that saves me having to torturously plough through it when I'd rather twiddle my thumbs staring at rusty door hinges for 6 weeks than put myself through it, knowing my head would explode in despair at some point laugh.gif
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post 18th June 2019, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jun 18 2019, 08:17 PM) *
When did trustworthiness get deleted from the list of attributes required of a great leader?



Well this is not maybe what you want to hear but he wants us to trust him that we'll leave the EU on 31st October whatever happens. That's music to my ears.
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post 18th June 2019, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jun 18 2019, 08:29 PM) *
Never heard so much shite spewed in my life. None of these guys have a clue how to deliver Brexit



I don't think it can be delivered so we need to just come out with no deal, as Boris said.
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