Chart Replay: Cascada vs. Michael Jackson, 10 years on |
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11th July 2019, 12:52 PM
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has to be MJ really, not one of my absolute faves of his but it’s aged a fair bit better than ETD. him missing out on a posthumous number one was rather surprising too, his music was absolutely everywhere around this time - one of the biggest shock deaths in music ever.
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11th July 2019, 12:52 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Cascada!
MITM was never one of my fave MJ songs. |
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11th July 2019, 12:59 PM
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I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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I'm pretty sure 'Evacuate The Dancefloor' sounded dated even at the time. I know that sound was still in then with 'Just Dance' being a big hit a few months earlier etc. but it was always horrifically tacky even by the standards of that kind of song. Nah. In a way, that sound is timeless. You just don't understand how it draws from 2Unlimited influences that are woven into its structure which means the song could have premiered any year from 1992 to 2092. The rap part, sure, but I don't think about such a small and insignificant part of the song. Cascada's legendary beats will last the ages. |
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11th July 2019, 01:19 PM
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i can only do one normal thing a day
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well in a perfect world Sticks 'n' Stones would be #1 but y'know
I would go with Cascada on this one, Evacuate is a pretty fun slice of trash. Never cared for Man In The Mirror really, so it wasn't like she beat out one of his better hits |
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11th July 2019, 01:22 PM
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is my brain across your walls?
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Nah. In a way, that sound is timeless. You just don't understand how it draws from 2Unlimited influences that are woven into its structure which means the song could have premiered any year from 1992 to 2092. The rap part, sure, but I don't think about such a small and insignificant part of the song. Cascada's legendary beats will last the ages. I don't think I have enough IQ for this. |
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11th July 2019, 01:28 PM
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A dead mouse (from my cat)
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I don't think I have enough IQ for this. To be fair, though, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Cascada. The metaphoric lyrics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the references will go over a typical listener's head. There's also DJ Manian's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volyaliterature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these references, to realize that they're not just nice to listen to - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Cascada truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Evacuate the Dancefloor's existencial line "I'm infected by the sound," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Natalie Horler's genius unfolds itself on their electronic devices. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Cascada tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only - And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. This post has been edited by WhoOdyssey: 11th July 2019, 01:31 PM |
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11th July 2019, 01:59 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Man In The Mirror.
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11th July 2019, 02:51 PM
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Mj. Jamie t & La rnux are much better songs.
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11th July 2019, 03:06 PM
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Let's Go Brandon
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Cascada I guess
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11th July 2019, 03:07 PM
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Why do today, what you can do tomorrow?
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Defiantly Michael Jackson.
I just had a listen back to the Cascada track and yes it has dated quite badly compared to some of their other hits. |
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11th July 2019, 04:16 PM
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Radical Pink Troll
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Imagine voting for Cascada here. It wasn’t even good for them.
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11th July 2019, 04:49 PM
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wayback machine gif rescuer
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01 (NE) Cascada - Evacuate the Dancefloor 03 (01) La Roux - Bulletproof 04 (02) David Guetta feat. Kelly Rowland - When Love Takes Over 05 (04) Lady Gaga - Paparazzi 06 (03) Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow 07 (06) Agnes - Release Me 08 (05) Keri Hilson feat. Kanye West & Ne-Yo - Knock You Down 09 (07) Pixie Lott - Mama Do (Uh Oh Uh Oh) 10 (25) Michael Jackson - Billie Jean 'Evacuate The Dancefloor' easily. I love it and I admire how brash it is, like it really doesn't care that 50% of people will hate it or say it's a blatant copy of 'Just Dance' (not a charge without merit) and it's going to pound you with that synth riff anyway. It's the perfect song to troll-block a beloved artist 'Man In The Mirror' is not remotely one of his best to me |
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11th July 2019, 05:10 PM
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Absolutely flabbergasted Bre has not voted for Cascada
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11th July 2019, 05:22 PM
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It's still a pretty big song for him, perhaps not a definitive hit but it still gets a lot of recognition and praise.
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11th July 2019, 05:35 PM
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Cascada's a decent track but not on par with Everytime We Touch, Miracle or What Hurts The Most. But hands down MJ's track here.
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11th July 2019, 05:38 PM
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Definitely should have been Man In The Mirror, although it's not one of my absolute favourites of his.
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11th July 2019, 05:44 PM
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Jord
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Man In The Mirror For me
I was too young to remember this at the time as I didn’t have social media then but I did follow the charts but what was it that stuck Man In The Mirror to be the MJ song to chart highest as before that it wasn’t a big hit. Was there a campaign or was it just people found that song to be the most suitable lyrically? I loved that Cascada track at the time but it’s low key awful now They had far better tracks so it’s strange to me that was their number one! Reminds me of the Saturdays getting their only number one with one of their weakest singles. |
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11th July 2019, 05:54 PM
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is my brain across your walls?
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'Man In The Mirror' had been used in talent shows etc. not too long before his death iirc so its profile was raised a bit more than its original #21 peak would indicate, it is still odd that it was the most successful track of his in the wake of his death by such a large margin though.
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11th July 2019, 05:57 PM
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I don't know for sure but I suspect Man in the Mirror was already a song that was more known than its peak suggested. I believe it had shifted 100k by the time of his death which was pretty good going considering this was just as the boom of the download period. I guess it became his Swan song for being the most suitable.
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11th July 2019, 06:22 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Man In The Mirror For me I was too young to remember this at the time as I didn’t have social media then but I did follow the charts but what was it that stuck Man In The Mirror to be the MJ song to chart highest as before that it wasn’t a big hit. Was there a campaign or was it just people found that song to be the most suitable lyrically? I loved that Cascada track at the time but it’s low key awful now They had far better tracks so it’s strange to me that was their number one! Reminds me of the Saturdays getting their only number one with one of their weakest singles. You're too young to remember 2009? |
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