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 The lovely discussion of all things EU and/or Brexit, Part V |
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 31st July 2019, 10:02 PM
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The way we’re going we’ll be on a 1:1 parity with the Hungarian Florint
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1st August 2019, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Jul 31 2019, 10:02 PM)  The way we’re going we’ll be on a 1:1 parity with the Hungarian Florint Hey, on the bright side(albiet a smallish one). When you earn money in a foreign currency and buy something in GBP a weak pound will make your money go a lot furtherb 
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1st August 2019, 07:45 PM
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I’m looking forward to the continued devaluation of the pound. It’ll make paying off my debt much easier when I am paid in euros
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5th August 2019, 06:26 PM
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Surprise surprise to all but the extremely right wing common sense, but the EU has announced that Bojo and his shower of shet government has no plans to renegotiate. Not that it matters, as the EU have already negotiated a deal. Why waste three more years, lol, more like three months but whatever, with another weak fragile landed gentry government that can collapse at any moment and be replaced by a Corbyn one for a THIRD deal? The EU have said that the incompetent posh boys don't want to enter talks, and tjat their default position seems to be no deal.
This is why Bojo the Clown is spending 100 million or more on the biggest non war time propaganda brainwashing effort ever. He wants to convince people they voted no deal ... when the campaign was screaming for years that leaving the EU did not mean no deal nor even leaving the single market. They had no mandate before, but this is no mandate on steroids! WHERE IS DEMOCRACY? The far right hate it and always have! They need to STAND ASIDE and let Corbyn in. At this point it's a Bojo no deal or a 2nd ref under Corbyn/ article 50 being revoked. |
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9th August 2019, 09:52 AM
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Wonderful This post has been edited by blacksquare: 9th August 2019, 09:53 AM |
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9th August 2019, 10:01 AM
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Isn't recession supposed to be some sort of buzzword that will FINALLY make people sit up and take notice? Most of what I remember of the crash, politically, was people saying recession in every other sentence as something that must be entirely avoided.
And we can. We can avoid it. Eh, probably. I don't know at this point if even revocation would be enough to restore confidence, because the path to revocation requires almighty political turmoil. |
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9th August 2019, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Aug 9 2019, 11:01 AM) Isn't recession supposed to be some sort of buzzword that will FINALLY make people sit up and take notice? Most of what I remember of the crash, politically, was people saying recession in every other sentence as something that must be entirely avoided. And we can. We can avoid it. Eh, probably. I don't know at this point if even revocation would be enough to restore confidence, because the path to revocation requires almighty political turmoil. What is a little recession to reclaim our sovereignty?! |
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9th August 2019, 10:16 AM
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I have been living in somewhat blissful ignorance because I truly thought No Deal would be avoided, and it still can be, but it feels inevitable right now. Self-inflicted lunacy.
Does anyone else feel completely hopeless at this point? I wouldn't be surprised to see Boris force it through, and then either quit or have another election to go as soon as it happens. |
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9th August 2019, 10:24 AM
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I no longer feel hopeless because I’ve secured my exit plan. I have a firm job offer on the table from my companies German firm. I’m outta this racist backwards recession bound shithole regardless on December 1st
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9th August 2019, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Aug 9 2019, 11:01 AM) Isn't recession supposed to be some sort of buzzword that will FINALLY make people sit up and take notice? Most of what I remember of the crash, politically, was people saying recession in every other sentence as something that must be entirely avoided. And we can. We can avoid it. Eh, probably. I don't know at this point if even revocation would be enough to restore confidence, because the path to revocation requires almighty political turmoil. I dunno. Some have suggested that public opinion to Brexit will go in the same direction as the Iraq war, but large minorities of people are so committed to their cause in this case. Like, Brexiteers hark back to plucky little Britain's blitz spirit and point to how we pulled through against those darn Germans in the end, and that this scenario is exactly the same and we can make great use of that analogy to show that No Deal will be just fine. So it seems that not even consequences of No Deal akin to a world war - which, in the UK alone, cost tens of thousands of civilian lives, lost us billions of pounds, was a humanitarian crisis, and of course precipitated the fall of the British Empire - is enough for some to realise that maybe putting yourself on the periphery of the world's largest trading block after years of acting in bad faith is perhaps not a great idea. |
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9th August 2019, 11:54 AM
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For a long time I thought there’d be no way we’d have no deal but it now seems to have been Boris’ plan all along.
Someone I know actually interviewed Boris last week. He was going off about how they are definitely going to try for a deal but it’s up to the EU to stop being ridiculous and in case that doesn’t happen we have to plan for no deal. Also in the event of no deal, there will be a ‘package’ provided to help farmers. How reassuring. It’s also reassuring of the BBC to tell us we won’t starve if we get no deal. As if anyone sane would have wanted this if starvation was an outcome. I’m just sad I don’t have an exit plan. |
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9th August 2019, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 9 2019, 12:54 PM) I’m just sad I don’t have an exit plan. This shouldn't be a thing — people shouldn't be subjected to needing an exit plan, especially as most people are unable to create one. |
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9th August 2019, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Aug 9 2019, 11:16 AM) Does anyone else feel completely hopeless at this point? I wouldn't be surprised to see Boris force it through, and then either quit or have another election to go as soon as it happens. Yes, I'm seriously looking at various options (as Silas) for exit strategies - e.g. working in Ireland or moving to Scotland within the company I'm currently in (in the hope of a Scottish Independence Referendum). Thankfully I just rent so can up and move fairly easily. The potential for sustained civil unrest in the event of a no deal exit is seriously worrying. |
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9th August 2019, 12:11 PM
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We can't have exit plans. Unless we're lucky enough to have a company that will give us a Eurppean position no ifs ands or buts, no matter what happens with Brexshit, we're screwed. We can't go to Europe because of Brexshet and Australia etc have lengthy, hard immigration processes!
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9th August 2019, 12:11 PM
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More hopeless feelings here too. My job is very much tied to the UK so I can't escape unless I'm prepared to completely uproot my entire career. I am considering it though.
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9th August 2019, 12:14 PM
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It's complete lunacy. I moved to Iceland back in March and they have said that everyone that is here already will be protected even in the(utterly ridiculous) event of no deal. I still worry for my family back home though. They aren't rolling in money by any means.
As for the gormless twats that are championing no deal like certain people on here...I used to have sympathy for their refusal to accept they are being lied to...not anymore..I hope their lives get hit as hard as possible. For what they are doing to us and our families...hey deserve it. This post has been edited by mald487: 9th August 2019, 12:16 PM |
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9th August 2019, 12:14 PM
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This was Boris' plan all along. It's so obvious. Eithee we get him OUT before October, unless he refuses to budge and becomes a fascist dictatoe, or we have no deal. Time for a Jeremy Corbyn government and a final say! JC will end this Brexshit debacle.
Also I played around with the currency converter today and oh my GOD at how weak the pound is! 1000£ equals €925 euros!!! It's almost the same! 1.08. It used to be 1.333!! |
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9th August 2019, 12:19 PM
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Meanwhile, my move WAS (in part) an exit plan but I don't want it to be a permanent one, I'd really like there to some day be a UK to come back to that's still doing rather well.
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9th August 2019, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Aug 9 2019, 01:14 PM) This was Boris' plan all along. It's so obvious. Eithee we get him OUT before October, unless he refuses to budge and becomes a fascist dictatoe, or we have no deal. Time for a Jeremy Corbyn government and a final say! JC will end this Brexshit debacle. Also I played around with the currency converter today and oh my GOD at how weak the pound is! 1000£ equals €925 euros!!! It's almost the same! 1.08. It used to be 1.333!! Dominic Cummings has apparently stated that if a VONC was tabled by Jeremy Corbyn and passed, then Boris Johnson would simply refuse to resign and remain as PM until a General Election kicks in after 14 days. No easy solution, and of course I see Gormless Gove is already trying to pin the blame on the EU. |
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9th August 2019, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Aug 9 2019, 12:19 PM) Dominic Cummings has apparently stated that if a VONC was tabled by Jeremy Corbyn and passed, then Boris Johnson would simply refuse to resign and remain as PM until a General Election kicks in after 14 days. No easy solution, and of course I see Gormless Gove is already trying to pin the blame on the EU. Ah yes, the same Gove who tried to flirt with the idea of a bank holiday the day after the exit presumably to delay news of utter catastrophe by, uh... 24 hours. |
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