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 15th September 2019, 12:31 AM
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You can't compare A female who is 34 now to 10 years ago in their prime imperial phase. NRO did fantastically for this point in her career.
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15th September 2019, 07:31 AM
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NRO did fine. It didnt really have a buzz about it but still a top 20 single
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15th September 2019, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(dannjohn @ Sep 15 2019, 08:31 AM)  NRO did fine. It didnt really have a buzz about it but still a top 20 single This. It's eh. Okay. People reaaally overblow it on here. |
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15th September 2019, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 15 2019, 10:40 AM) This. It's eh. Okay. P3ople reaaally overblow it on here. You literally said 'This' and agreed that Small Talk killed NRO's momentum on the last page. What.is.the.truth.gif |
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15th September 2019, 09:49 AM
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But I also agree that NRO wasn't massive and was just okay. It still gave her SOME momentum to BUILD ON, but that was it. Snail Talk took it all away.
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15th September 2019, 10:11 AM
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Well shes performing ST on Ellen next week
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15th September 2019, 10:46 AM
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Everyone can pretend that NRO wouldn't have absolutely smashed had it followed Prism. It's huge, anthemic, and everything a Katy Perry lead single should be.
She was following the flop of 365, the underperformance of Witness, the entire Katy Perry is over narrative, her age — and yet it managed to do pretty decently with very little promotion outside of the release date. This post has been edited by blacksquare: 15th September 2019, 10:49 AM |
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15th September 2019, 10:48 AM
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Small Talk has killed that momentum — a terrible choice — and it feels like she's back to square one.
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15th September 2019, 10:56 AM
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She is back to square one ... unless people completely bypassed ST and forgot that it existed...
This is why sometimes it'a good when an atrocious album flops, as people forget about it and remember the last good one. Artpop and Joannr are TEEERRRRIBLE, but no one bought them. Now people just remember Shallow Album and it puts GaGa in a great position. If people just remembrr NRO, she still has some momentum. If they remember ST, she doesn't have any. Radio might even have forgotten sT tbh as it still plays NRO too. |
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15th September 2019, 01:17 PM
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Heart is spamming NRO, and keeping it top 60 on iTunes all this time later. They don't know about Small Talk.
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15th September 2019, 03:25 PM
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What is this shit about her age though? Pink is 40 and still getting hits and #1 albums. Beyonce is a huge icon at the age of 38. Gaga is just year younger and had a #1 hit both sides of the Atlantic with Shallow. Sia's hits are among the most streamed of all time and she's 43.
It's not about her AGE, it's about her career has developed on recent years. |
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15th September 2019, 05:10 PM
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It's how it started to develop with Prism.
THEY HAD WALKING ON AIR AND LEGENDARY LOVERS!! They then thought Witness and Rise would be moments!! |
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15th September 2019, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(SKOB @ Sep 15 2019, 04:25 PM) What is this shit about her age though? Pink is 40 and still getting hits and #1 albums. Beyonce is a huge icon at the age of 38. Gaga is just year younger and had a #1 hit both sides of the Atlantic with Shallow. Sia's hits are among the most streamed of all time and she's 43. It's not about her AGE, it's about her career has developed on recent years. It’s not just about her age — there are other contributing factors (bigger ones), but it’s hard to suggest that it doesn’t make things more difficult. She’s a mid-thirties popstar who is over a decade into her career, so bouncing back from an underperforming album and flop collaboration isn’t as easy. She wasn’t just going to become a streaming force without a lot of effort. This post has been edited by blacksquare: 15th September 2019, 05:38 PM |
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15th September 2019, 06:23 PM
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Yes but anyone with a decade in the biz has to face ups and downs at some point. No one is immune to that. Even Drake has had singles that has underperformed but he has bounced back. It's about reinvention and quality. Katy reached #1 just two years ago with Feels, she just needs to find a new path, these mediocre pop hits are not it. If you look at streaming charts, literally NO ONE would be successful with a song like Small Talk.
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 20th September 2019, 10:44 AM
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20th September 2019, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(SKOB @ Sep 15 2019, 07:23 PM) Yes but anyone with a decade in the biz has to face ups and downs at some point. No one is immune to that. Even Drake has had singles that has underperformed but he has bounced back. It's about reinvention and quality. Katy reached #1 just two years ago with Feels, she just needs to find a new path, these mediocre pop hits are not it. If you look at streaming charts, literally NO ONE would be successful with a song like Small Talk. This. |
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20th September 2019, 02:28 PM
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I'm not a huge NRO fan but it did as well as a Katy single could do coming off the back of a really poor era. She was never going to smash out the gate or even close.
This was dead on arrival because it's rubbish that's all there is to it, no one could make this a hit. |
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20th September 2019, 02:58 PM
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And if they chose this over Harleys in Hawaii, which already has a teeerrible titls, imagine how bad that must be :/
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21st September 2019, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Sep 20 2019, 11:44 AM) "Her latest hit" 
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21st September 2019, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(Mikal @ Sep 20 2019, 03:28 PM) I'm not a huge NRO fan but it did as well as a Katy single could do coming off the back of a really poor era. She was never going to smash out the gate or even close. This was dead on arrival because it's rubbish that's all there is to it, no one could make this a hit. Spot on! |
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