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 Oct 3 2019, 06:38 PM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Exactly. Bullshit.
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Oct 4 2019, 05:07 AM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Oct 2 2019, 12:48 PM)  Still evidence of double standards, whether you choose to express it or not. Everyone has double standards - ISTM I'm just more honest about them... |
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Oct 4 2019, 08:11 AM
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No. You're just a hypocrite, like the right wing and right wing media x
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Oct 4 2019, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(TheJüpreme @ Oct 3 2019, 07:38 PM) Exactly. Bullshit. Why is it? Not everyone taken to the cop shop is charged. Often they're let off or let off with a caution if it's a minor thing. |
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Oct 4 2019, 01:02 PM
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Especially if they are posh rich and part of the Tory estanlishment!
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Oct 4 2019, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Oct 4 2019, 02:02 PM) Especially if they are posh rich and part of the Tory estanlishment! No, ordinary plebs too. Sometimes it's not worth pressing charges or the aggrieved party may not want to press charges. |
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Oct 4 2019, 01:11 PM
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And yet the rich make laws for the poor to abide by that the rich then flaut. And you are here doffing your cap to them!!
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Oct 4 2019, 01:13 PM
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Laws are for us all though. The law doesn't differentiate between poor and rich. It would be chaos if it did.
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Oct 4 2019, 01:20 PM
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Oh really? And yet Tory mps go on about taking coke, Bojo took it too, the sewers under London are contaminated with it, and yet the poor are SMASHED and thrown away if they do the same. That's just ONE EXAMPLE. Benefits mistake? Jail for 5 years. Failure to declare millions in houses, etc, oh, just a posh boy error, hur hurr!
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Oct 4 2019, 01:20 PM
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Rich make the laws for the rest of us to follow. Every time you support Tory, you support the existence of an elite estbalishment class who are above the law.
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Oct 4 2019, 01:22 PM
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 Break the tension
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I feel like Michael has a point though, his privilege is probably why this toerag evaded being arrested and given (at least) a caution.
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Oct 4 2019, 01:24 PM
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 I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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Remember Mark Field? Never got formally charged for assault. Yet someone throws a milkshake on Farage and you'd best believe the law is ready to make him pay a fine.
If anything, public servants should be held to greater standards of scrutiny. But there's countless examples from just the Tory leadership contest this year alone that show that their misdemeanours are treated differently. |
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Oct 4 2019, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Oct 4 2019, 02:22 PM) I feel like Michael has a point though, his privilege is probably why this toerag evaded being arrested and given (at least) a caution. Well yes maybe he has a point. I mean Prince Philip too. Wonder if a mere pleb would have been charged with something then. Didn't they say the sun was in his eyes or something but am sure others have proved it couldn't have been that day. This post has been edited by Common Sense: Oct 4 2019, 01:27 PM |
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Oct 4 2019, 01:33 PM
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I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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For all Michael's rantings about the landed g*ntry, there's a large element of the truth to Conservatives being out-of-touch elites who have always had their money ready to get them out of any trouble they may find themselves in. As a party, it's structured to attract the sort of people who are only in politics to get more power for its own sake. Which sadly drowns out any of the proper conservatives, the sort you can disagree with while still accepting that they may want the best for the country in a different way. Ken Clarke, the now resigned Rory Stewart, that lot, most of who no longer have the whip.
That they manage to call liberals and the left out of touch is clear projection. It's a phenomenon that I only see working from conservatives to liberals/left and rarely the other way around, they accuse the other side of all the things they are doing themselves. Clearly most of the Conservative male MPs are still stuck several decades ago as far as gender roles and aggressiveness goes, it goes hand in hand with this desire for power. |
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