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post Oct 19 2019, 05:14 AM
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Ah I do hope the march goes well.

Letwin is looking very important to avoid legal trickery. If the implications of it become clear early enough it may stop the ERG from supporting, and it looks like Johnson won’t have the likes of Hammond and Gauke plus some Labour rebels, without it.
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post Oct 19 2019, 08:26 AM
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BREAKING. No.10 says if Letwin amendment passes then they'll pull the Brexit bill before it's even voted on. ohmy.gif It'll be re-introduced on Monday.

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post Oct 19 2019, 09:08 AM
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Well, a surprise. Norman Lamb will actually be voting against.
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post Oct 19 2019, 09:21 AM
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https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/...-7-oR__O49I6tmQ

Just a reminder that more people cared about Strictly than Brexshit back in 16 pre referendum x Like, by a lot.
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post Oct 19 2019, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Oct 19 2019, 10:08 AM) *


Well, a surprise. Norman Lamb will actually be voting against.

At least that's one nightmare scenario averted.
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post Oct 19 2019, 01:55 PM
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So no vote on Boris's deal today, as Letwin's delaying tactic has worked. rolleyes.gif Another MP just trying to frustrate Brexit again. mad.gif

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post Oct 19 2019, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 19 2019, 02:55 PM) *
So no vote on Boris's deal today, as Letwin's delaying tactic has worked. rolleyes.gif Another MP just trying to frustrate Brexit again. mad.gif


You do realise that even if the Deal passes we would still be in the EU for at least another year? laugh.gif

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post Oct 19 2019, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 18 2019, 09:47 PM) *
Boris is promising individual Labour MP's tonight that workers rights will be fully protected.


The same Boris who promised to lie down in front of bulldozers at Heathrow Airport. More fool you for believing a single word he says.
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:01 PM
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Boris tells MP's he's not sending the letter. I wouldn't either if I'd got a perfectly good deal. If he does the EU should have the balls to refuse an extension.

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post Oct 19 2019, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Oct 19 2019, 02:57 PM) *
You do realise that even if the Deal passes we would still be in the EU for at least another year? laugh.gif



Yes but only technically whilst the finer detail's being sorted out.

So the vote on Monday but will Boris be in jail? ohmy.gif

EDIT. Cummings has just apparently told the BBC the government will not ask for a delay and any letter from parliament they will ask the EU to ignore as it hasn't come from the PM.

They are going to break the law. Looks like Bercow will have to send the letter, he has said he will when asked just now in HOC. Boris apparently relying on his belief that they wouldn't dare arrest the PM.


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post Oct 19 2019, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 19 2019, 02:55 PM) *
So no vote on Boris's deal today, as Letwin's delaying tactic has worked. rolleyes.gif Another MP just trying to frustrate Brexit again. mad.gif

Why is it so difficult for you to understand the concepts of advisory referendum and parliamentary democracy?
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Oct 19 2019, 03:26 PM) *
Why is it so difficult for you to understand the concepts of advisory referendum and parliamentary democracy?



I understand that but Boris has got a perfectly good deal. I don't understand why they've postponed the vote until Monday. They could have still had it later today despite Letwin passing.

Sky speculating that they want to look carefully at which MP's voted for Letwin so they can try to twist a few more arms before Monday.


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post Oct 19 2019, 02:32 PM
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Perfectly and good are amongst the last two words anyone with more than one brain cell would use to describe this “deal”
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:34 PM
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First thing Monday we’re back in action in the court in Scotland where BoJo made a cast iron promise to the Court of Session that he would fully comply with the Benn Act in letter and in spirit. I expect if no letter goes out tonight or if is a shoddy conjob then the Scottish Court will be, rightfully, quite pissed off
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 19 2019, 02:28 PM) *
I understand that but Boris has got a perfectly good deal. I don't understand why they've postponed the vote until Monday. They could have still had it later today despite Letwin passing.

Sky speculating that they want to look carefully at which MP's voted for Letwin so they can try to twist a few more arms before Monday.


The implication would be that there were some MPs (the ERG crazies) who were only planning to vote for the deal in bad faith so that they can get their no-deal on technicalities. With Letwin enacted there would be no reason for them to vote and as such the deal doesn't pass.

These would be the same crazies who frustrated the first deal. Not that either is a good deal in any sense of the imagination and it's far more commendable if we're talking about an MP who voted against/is planning to vote against both in order to protect their constituents.
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:41 PM
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Love this description of Bercow on DS "Bercow's still wittering on. He's like a huge infected boil on yer bum that you just can't get rid of" True. Absolutely true.
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:43 PM
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IT IS A f***ING NON BINDING REFERENDUM ON A SPLIT VTOE BASED ON LIES AND FALLACIES AND FANTASIES. IT HAS NO MANDATE. IT IS NOT SOVEREIGN. IT HAS NO, THAT IS ZERO ZILCH, BASIS IN LAW. LORD ALMIGHTY THIS TROLL!! Even ignoring it and I have to see its trolling quoted. The deal is also shit and Mad May's with a WORSE BORDER THAT BOJO THE CLOWN SAID HIMSELF NO PM COULD BE WRAK RNOUGH TO ACCEPT.
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 19 2019, 03:41 PM) *
Love this description of Bercow on DS "Bercow's still wittering on. He's like a huge infected boil on yer bum that you just can't get rid of" True. Absolutely true.


That’s also an apt description of yourself.
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:49 PM
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Oh LORD. Ban that troll.
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post Oct 19 2019, 02:49 PM
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It was a non-binding referendum as you keep reminding me yet MP's voted for May to start proceeding by invoking A50. Two successive PM's have wanted to follow the will of the people.
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