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 20th October 2019, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Oct 20 2019, 03:51 PM)  A full UK-wide CU amendment (tabled by Ken Clarke in April, and just 3 votes short of a majority) might be the most likely outcome next week.. ..which is what we should have gone for all along! Keeps everyone happy, delivers on the vote and even though we are in a worse position than pre-2016 it shuts everyone up. May's problem was she pandered to the ERG too much to try and keep the Party in line. |
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20th October 2019, 03:27 PM
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It doesn't keep everyone happy. That would be the single market that leave banged on about remaining in.
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20th October 2019, 03:30 PM
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Sounds like a second referendum isn't wanted by MP's as the DUP now say they don't want one.
DUP Statement The DUP wants to 'get Brexit done' but it must be a Brexit for the whole of the United Kingdom. Our position has been clear and it has been consistent. "DUP MPs supported the Letwin amendment as the only avenue available to properly scrutinise the deal on offer and attempt to secure changes that could address some of the concerns we have. "It was a situation that could have been easily avoided had the Prime Minister kept to words he penned to Jean-Claude Juncker just a matter of two weeks ago. "The DUP does not seek a second referendum; merely implementation of the first. "The people of the United Kingdom were asked whether the UK should leave the EU, not whether Great Britain should leave Northern Ireland behind. We want to leave as one nation. That remains our goal. "If the Prime Minister remains willing to achieve that outcome he will find DUP MPs as willing partners in that project.“" This post has been edited by Freddie Kruger: 20th October 2019, 03:37 PM |
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20th October 2019, 03:38 PM
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The only thing about the DUP that I do admire is that they actually want to get Brexit done but on their terms. They don't want a second referendum.
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20th October 2019, 03:54 PM
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So basically they're pushing for a soft brexit, which will likely be Customs Union/Single Market access.
 Freedom of movement and having to pay into the EU budget. What was the point of leaving if that happens?
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20th October 2019, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(Envoirment @ Oct 20 2019, 04:54 PM) So basically they're pushing for a soft brexit, which will likely be Customs Union/Single Market access. Freedom of movement and having to pay into the EU budget. What was the point of leaving if that happens?Why would we have to till pay in if we've left? |
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20th October 2019, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(Envoirment @ Oct 20 2019, 04:54 PM) So basically they're pushing for a soft brexit, which will likely be Customs Union/Single Market access. Freedom of movement and having to pay into the EU budget. What was the point of leaving if that happens?That is what they should have done all alomg  People who got brainwashed by the daily fail etc, we have two in here, won't tell the difference! It's just football for them. Let them think they've won amd let the rest of us carry on as normal. We'll be back in the EU as a full member with the euro soon enough. |
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20th October 2019, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 04:59 PM) Why would we have to till pay in if we've left? To get access to the single market. Just like Norway does. |
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20th October 2019, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 04:09 PM) No they both really care about DEMOCRACY and getting the will of the people done. I've heard Boris say that in fact. You still haven’t quite grasped the concept of democracy. |
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20th October 2019, 04:36 PM
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Sky speculating that if a CU amendment is tabled and passes then Boris's deal will likely be voted down as Brexiteer MP's don't want to remain the the single market as what would have been achieved? So we'd be back to square one! Still the best option as far as I can see is Boris's deal to be passed tomorrow with no amendments. WE NEED TO GET OUT ASAP.
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20th October 2019, 04:44 PM
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Not sure why I can keep that post, but why? We need to stay in ASAP!!!
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20th October 2019, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(Trick Or Queef! @ Oct 20 2019, 05:44 PM) Not sure why I can keep that post, but why? We need to stay in ASAP!!! Have you taken me off ignore maybe? 
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20th October 2019, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 03:59 PM) Why would we have to till pay in if we've left? To have access to the things the Silas mentioned? Just like Norway pays in even though it´s not a member. Deary me Chris
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20th October 2019, 04:51 PM
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Michael Gove has just disclosed that the government’s Operation Yellowhammer contingency plan to handle a no-deal Brexit is being triggered by the PM in consultation with other senior ministers.
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20th October 2019, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Oct 20 2019, 05:49 PM) To have access to the things the Silas mentioned? Just like Norway pays in even though it´s not a member. Deary me Chris Very unfair. What's the point of half a Brexit then? Neither in nor really out.  May as well just stay in and get ALL the benefits that I keep being told about. This post has been edited by Freddie Kruger: 20th October 2019, 04:54 PM |
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20th October 2019, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 05:53 PM) May as well just stay in and get ALL the benefits that I keep being told about. This quote shall be immortalised. |
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20th October 2019, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 04:53 PM) May as well just stay in and get ALL the benefits. Now you´re getting it! 
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20th October 2019, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 04:53 PM) Very unfair. What NOT getting things for free? 
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20th October 2019, 05:07 PM
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He finally said something sensible? Wow. Let's stay x
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20th October 2019, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(Trick Or Queef! @ Oct 20 2019, 06:07 PM) He finally said something sensible? Wow. Let's stay x I didn't say we should stay but coming half out and still paying in is a bit stupid.  We need to make clean break or stay in.
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