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Jessie Where
post Oct 20 2019, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 07:43 PM) *
Sorry but he doesn't have the final say. The DWP has tried to stop my disability benefits three times now and they've always been overruled on appeal. Even the "evil" Tories wouldn't dare deny us the right of appeal to a judicial tribunal headed by a judge.


Yet you continually throw your support behind these people who WANT and are TRYING to do this to you. Where's the sense? Where's the logic?
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post Oct 20 2019, 06:48 PM
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Oh don't bring such filth in to the debate. I really admire how he's got a deal against all the odds. I see Gina Miller's slagging it off and saying it's only very slightly different to May's and Boris is trying to trick MP's to pass it.

What is to be admired when his deal is worse than the previous one? This is like a union leader negotiating a 5% pay increase which gets rejected by the members coming back with a new deal worth only a 3% rise and claiming a triumph.
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post Oct 20 2019, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Oct 20 2019, 07:46 PM) *
Yet you continually throw your support behind these people who WANT and are TRYING to do this to you. Where's the sense? Where's the logic?



I think the Tory policy of weeding out scroungers is correct. There are thousands apparently pretending they have bad backs when they haven't. My parents knew one guy, bad back but was out sequence dancing every weekend. rolleyes.gif Yes they are making mistakes, my case is one, but we have a safety net of a second re-consideration by another DWP office first then a tribunal if that fails. If you're not faking illness or disability you have nothing to fear was said by one minister.


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post Oct 20 2019, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Oct 20 2019, 07:46 PM) *
Yet you continually throw your support behind these people who WANT and are TRYING to do this to you. Where's the sense? Where's the logic?



I think the Tory policy of weeding out scroungers is correct. There are thousands apparently pretending they have bad backs when they haven't. Yes they are making mistakes, my case is one, but we have a safety net of a second re-consideration by another DWP office first then a tribunal. If you're not faking illness or disability you have nothing to fear was said by one minister.
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post Oct 20 2019, 06:51 PM
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What is to be admired when his deal is worse than the previous one? This is like a union leader negotiating a 5% pay increase which gets rejected by the members coming back with a new deal worth only a 3% rise and claiming a triumph.



Well as Miller is a remainer obviously she'll rubbish his deal. She claims lawyers have agreed with her but won't name them. She says about 4 lines only are different to May's deal and that MP'S are about to be duped. She says that basically they'll be passing May's deal if they do this week.


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post Oct 20 2019, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 07:51 PM) *
Well as Miller is a remainer obviously she'll rubbish his deal. She claims lawyers have agreed with her but won't name them. She says about 4 lines only are different to May's deal and that MP'S are about to be duped. She says that basically they'll be passing May's deal if they do this week.

So explain how it is better than May's deal then. Come on, I'm dying to hear.
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:04 PM
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So explain how it is better than May's deal then. Come on, I'm dying to hear.



May not be better but hey we've moved on and something needs to happen now. Do we go on with extensions for 5 years, 10 years?
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 08:04 PM) *
May not be better but hey we've moved on and something needs to happen now. Do we go on with extensions for 5 years, 10 years?

So why should MPs vote for a deal that is worse than the one they have already rejected? The whole idea is utterly ridiculous. And why are you praising the lying git who has "negotiated" this worse deal?
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:08 PM
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I am not trolling. I said that her receiving threats is awful and deplorable didn't I. If she hadn't started all this legal stuff though she wouldn't have received them would she? That's a fact.

And it is still a case of blaming the victim.
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:08 PM
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Why not? We have been perfectly happy as an EU member for DECADES. Ignore the press. Extend indefinitely.
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:12 PM
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IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE'S WILL. WE HAVE REPEATED THAT 100S OF TIMES. 100S OF TIMES. STOP TROLLING.
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:13 PM
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Obviously Chris won't be warned though, why would he be? rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:13 PM
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Wait a minute T Boy. You're saying no-one's actions should have consequences then. So if I go out now and murder someone and end up in jail people can't say he suffered the consequences.


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post Oct 20 2019, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(Calum @ Oct 20 2019, 08:13 PM) *
Obviously Chris won't be warned though, why would he be? rolleyes.gif



I have been warned in the past. I'm trying to debate here.
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:15 PM
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You’re equating her actions to murder! This trolling knows no bounds!

She shouldn’t be punished for doing what she believes to be right, especially since it’s not illegal.
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:18 PM
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I have been warned in the past. I'm trying to debate here.

Hardly. You're probably sitting chuckling to yourself while you come away with comments such as a politician doing her job while not pleasing some people means she has brought whatever happens to her on herself?

Absolutely disgusting.
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Oct 20 2019, 08:15 PM) *
You’re equating her actions to murder! This trolling knows no bounds!

She shouldn’t be punished for doing what she believes to be right, especially since it’s not illegal.



No that was just an example and not a very good one I admit.

Oh sod it, am going to bed. Let the remainers win. Don't care any more. Won't be here long anyway with my health and the amount of unhealthy food and cider I'm consuming every week, close to 200 units.

You won't need to ban me as I'll be gone soon which is what I want and have done since my daughter died. Sorry folks won't bother you again. My GP said last week that she's worried I'll have a fatal heart attack and I told her I hope so.


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post Oct 20 2019, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 20 2019, 08:00 PM) *
Miller really needs to get a hobby, if anyone does, and stop meddling in the will of the people. I don't agree with the death threats she's received over the years and all the security she's had to install in her house, steel doors, bomb proof letter-box, panic alarms to nearest cop shop etc etc but she's brought it all on herself. Wonder if she thinks it's all been worth it. She's had messages saying she'd better look over shoulder for as long as she lives. I wouldn't like to live like that.


Wow...
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Calum @ Oct 20 2019, 08:18 PM) *
Hardly. You're probably sitting chuckling to yourself while you come away with comments such as a politician doing her job while not pleasing some people means she has brought whatever happens to her on herself?

Absolutely disgusting.



She's not a politician. Is she an MP or Lady?
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post Oct 20 2019, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Oct 20 2019, 08:15 PM) *
She shouldn’t be punished for doing what she believes to be right, especially since it’s not illegal.



Agree totally but you can see why people react to her the way they do as she's trying to frustrate Brexit.
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