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Suedehead2
post 25th October 2019, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 25 2019, 07:10 PM) *
Do you expect our busy hard-working PM to think of one constituency way up there when deciding when it's best to hold an election?

Has Johnson resigned? I must have missed the bit where he was replaced with someone hard-working.
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post 25th October 2019, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Oct 25 2019, 06:43 PM) *
Tell me. How do you think your life will personally improve after Brexit?

Please avoid abstract meaningless slogans like "take back control" or "less immigrants from the EU".

I would like to hear how your life will ACTUALLY improve.
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I´m waiting. smile.gif



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crazy chris
post 25th October 2019, 08:33 PM
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FRANCE READY TO BLOCK EXTENSION unless MP's pass deal or agree to an election.


From The Observer.

France is ready to send Britain crashing out of the European Union unless Labour and the Commons agree to a general election or ratify Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal. Macron may exercise France's veto.

Britain and the EU are nearing the brink of no-deal after President Macron today blocked an extension to Brexit and preparations began for an emergency summit on October 30.

A source close to the French president warned that a delay to Brexit beyond Thursday was “not a given” unless there was new political movement in Westminster to justify it.

“France wants a justified and proportionate extension. However, we have nothing of the sort so far,” an Élysée official said. “We must show the British that it is up to them to clarify the situation"


Go France. Send us out next Thursday and bye-bye. biggrin.gif


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post 25th October 2019, 08:36 PM
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I don't blame Macron at all. He's fed up as is everyone else. The will of the electorate must be done and we must leave. So MP's, which is it to be then, election or Boris's great deal? If neither the impasses goes on and that's what France doesn't want. We get to the end of the next extension then what?

Spoke to three guys today that I didn't even know were Brexiteers. Turns out they are and all are fed up to the back teeth with MP's, think Boris is a hero for trying to get us out and think we should just leave.


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post 25th October 2019, 08:40 PM
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Still waiting. smile.gif
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post 25th October 2019, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Oct 25 2019, 09:40 PM) *
Still waiting. smile.gif



You're like Diana Ross was then. biggrin.gif
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post 25th October 2019, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 25 2019, 08:41 PM) *
You're like Diana Ross was then. biggrin.gif


Yep, that´s it. biggrin.gif Slither away as usual when asked a simple question
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post 25th October 2019, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Oct 25 2019, 09:48 PM) *
Yep, that´s it. biggrin.gif Slither away as usual when asked a simple question



Why don't you or Suedehead or Michael or indeed any remainer here tell me what exactly we gain from the EU? As someone said on Twitter earlier, but can't get it to copy and paste, we pay billions a year for the privilege of them telling us what shape bananas we can sell and having open door immigration. rolleyes.gif Oh and we're so valuable to them that they're doing all they can to stop us leaving.


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post 25th October 2019, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 25 2019, 08:56 PM) *
Why don't you or Suedehead or Michael or indeed any remainer here tell me what we gain from the EU? As someone said on Twitter earlier, but can't get it to copy and paste, we pay billions a year for the privilege of them telling us what shape bananas we can sell and having open door immigration. rolleyes.gif



I could say "nice try, answer my question first", but seeing as listing the benefits is such an easy task I´ll list a few off the top of my head(AGAIN):

A passport that allows us to live and work in 27 other countries without the need for visas or passports as well as holiday in those countries without having to cue for hours.

Immigrants who fill vital jobs that many British people don´t want to do(cleaners, nurses)

Much lower import tariffs on products such as food and vital medicines that would cost substantially more otherwise.

Funding that goes to some of the poorer less well off parts of the country(of course you never hear about that.)

I could go on, but that´s not the point. The point is you´re deflecting because you can´t answer my question.

Back to you Chris, how is your life going to be better after Brexit?


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post 25th October 2019, 09:11 PM
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Oh LORD rolleyes.gif

1. Bendy bananas is an EGREGIOUS f***IN LIE about the EU. NOT TRUE!!

2. WE GET MASSIVE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFITS FROM BEING IN!!! MASSIVE ECONOMIC BENEFITS.

3. Immigration is decided by the f***ing government, not the eu. They chose to not enforce borders. Tories.
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post 25th October 2019, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Peentergeist @ Oct 25 2019, 10:11 PM) *
2. WE GET MASSIVE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFITS FROM BEING IN!!! MASSIVE ECONOMIC BENEFITS.



Hi Michael. Well we should do as we pay so much in. All that money can be used for our pensioners, sick and disabled or NHS.
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post 25th October 2019, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 25 2019, 09:30 PM) *
Hi Michael. Well we should do as we pay so much in. All that money can be used for our pensioners, sick and disabled or NHS.



Hi Chris. Can you give us some examples of how you think your life will be better when leave the EU?

Thanks.
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post 25th October 2019, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Oct 25 2019, 10:51 PM) *
Hi Chris. Can you give us some examples of how you think your life will be better when leave the EU?

Thanks.



Hi. My life may not be better but at least we'll be paying less in and there won't be as much strain on our public services with less people coming in to the UK. We can control them more.
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post 25th October 2019, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 25 2019, 09:33 PM) *
FRANCE READY TO BLOCK EXTENSION unless MP's pass deal or agree to an election.
From The Observer.

France is ready to send Britain crashing out of the European Union unless Labour and the Commons agree to a general election or ratify Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal. Macron may exercise France's veto.

Britain and the EU are nearing the brink of no-deal after President Macron today blocked an extension to Brexit and preparations began for an emergency summit on October 30.

A source close to the French president warned that a delay to Brexit beyond Thursday was “not a given” unless there was new political movement in Westminster to justify it.

“France wants a justified and proportionate extension. However, we have nothing of the sort so far,” an Élysée official said. “We must show the British that it is up to them to clarify the situation"
Go France. Send us out next Thursday and bye-bye. biggrin.gif


This will never happen, sorry x
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post 25th October 2019, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 25 2019, 09:53 PM) *
Hi. My life may not be better but at least we'll be paying less in and there won't be as much strain on our public services with less people coming in to the UK. We can control them more.


There will not be less people coming to the UK. You´ve already had this explained to you.

Public services would be ran much better if they weren´t victim to unnecessary austerity.

Please tell me how life will be better for the average working class person?

Again, please try and avoid slogans and things that you have picked up from Sky News.


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post 25th October 2019, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(Botchia @ Oct 25 2019, 10:57 PM) *
This will never happen, sorry x



Well with France's attitude now do you think they'll go on for years just giving us extensions because I don't.

Brexit has to be done sometime. The people voted for it. 17.4 million of us.


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post 25th October 2019, 10:16 PM
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By the way, has the EU ever thought to themselves I wonder, why the UK public voted to leave. There must be reasons after all.
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post 25th October 2019, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 25 2019, 10:16 PM) *
By the way, has the EU ever thought to themselves I wonder, why the UK public voted to leave. There must be reasons after all.

No, I'm sure nobody in the EU has ever reflected on why half of one of its largest member states doesn't want to be part of it, or indeed about the minor triviality of public opinion of one of the world's most ambitious political projects.

Are you actually serious.


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post 25th October 2019, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Harve @ Oct 25 2019, 11:23 PM) *
No, I'm sure nobody in the EU has ever reflected on why half of one of its largest member states doesn't want to be part of it, or indeed about the minor triviality of public opinion of one of the world's most ambitious political projects.

Are you actually serious.



I mean if they tried to understand then they may realise what's inherently wrong with the EU and why other countries may want to leave in the future. It's like a marriage breaking down. Yes by all means grant the divorce but surely mediation is better to understand what's gone wrong?


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post 25th October 2019, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 25 2019, 10:53 PM) *
Hi. My life may not be better but at least we'll be paying less in and there won't be as much strain on our public services with less people coming in to the UK. We can control them more.

If the economy shrinks (as seems likely), there will be less money available for public services.

Tariff-free trade with the EU is hugely beneficial for the economy. We are on the brink of potentially throwing that away.

It is impossible to put a precise value on the benefit of free movement of goods within the EU, but it is massive. We might get a better idea of just how massive if we lose it.

Most people have got so used to the benefits of free movement of goods and people that they don't give it a thought. They think of it as normal. It isn't. There is no other major bloc of nations where goods can move freely across borders. However, such are the benefits of it that similar blocs are steadily being formed. Those blocs are less powerful economically than the EU, but are potentially more powerful than our piddly little island.

Note that these blocs also negotiate trade deals collectively. We won't be trying to do trade deals with individual countries; a lot of the time we will have to negotiate with a bloc of countries. We could probably get a decent deal with, say, Vietnam, if we negotiated with them alone. However, we won't because they are part of ASEAN and we will have to attempt to get a collective deal with all of its members.
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