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 31st October 2019, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Oct 31 2019, 10:43 AM)  They’ve no work experience and at that level the little experience they have is irrelevant. I can teach someone basic accounting skills. I can’t teach them attitude and research skills and other things that university provides Exactly this. There is a reason why some professions will accept people with a variety of degrees. The degree itself quite doesn't often provide that much in the way of work experience, but what it does show is an attitude for work, dedication and application. |
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31st October 2019, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Oct 31 2019, 10:43 AM) They’ve no work experience and at that level the little experience they have is irrelevant. I can teach someone basic accounting skills. I can’t teach them attitude and research skills and other things that university provides What, like inability to handle the *real world* unless they have 'safe spaces' to cower in, and how to abuse anyone who dares to question their liberal views? 
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31st October 2019, 03:13 PM
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No. Things like critical thinking skills where they can question information put before them, uncover the sources and form an appropriate judgement based on a full set of facts. Given your post above, it’s a skill you could do with
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31st October 2019, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Oct 31 2019, 02:56 PM) What, like inability to handle the *real world* unless they have 'safe spaces' to cower in, and how to abuse anyone who dares to question their liberal views? More assumptions and generalizations I see from somone who has limited knowledge in this area...and then you wonder why people struggle to take your views seriously. 
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31st October 2019, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Oct 31 2019, 02:56 PM) What, like inability to handle the *real world* unless they have 'safe spaces' to cower in, and how to abuse anyone who dares to question their liberal views? In my experience its right wingers and old people who want their safe spaces free of foreigners, gays, transgender people, those poorer than them, and basically anyone not exactly or near exactly like them with the same shared values and traditional approach. Except they don't just want a certain space, they want all the space they might want to occupy or visit to be like that. Or does that not count because it's 'normal'? |
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31st October 2019, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(TheJü-Pumpkin @ Oct 31 2019, 08:23 PM) In my experience its right wingers and old people who want their safe spaces free of foreigners, gays, transgender people, those poorer than them, and basically anyone not exactly or near exactly like them with the same shared values and traditional approach. Except they don't just want a certain space, they want all the space they might want to occupy or visit to be like that. Or does that not count because it's 'normal'? This. "I can think and say what I want. I´m entitled to my opinion". Yes, you absolutely are, and when your opinion is that I shouldn´t be allowed the same rights and privileges as you because I am different to you, then I have the right to call you out for being bigoted, hateful, homophobic etc. It´s very simple. This post has been edited by mald487: 31st October 2019, 08:33 PM |
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31st October 2019, 09:12 PM
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I thought it would take longer before you’d resort to right wing soundbites, congrats, you just forgot Snowflakes.
Also it’s a component of majority of degree courses in all areas to have work experience as part of their degree, and that includes non STEM subjects. What you get out of university is what you put in, a lot of employers will look at your attitudes and skills mainly over degree course titles. I know English Literature, Film Studies, Creative Writing and History graduates that are working in high paying financial roles (and creative roles exist, you've just gotta be persistent, university studies does at the very least show you what it's like). |
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31st October 2019, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Oct 31 2019, 10:43 AM) They’ve no work experience and at that level the little experience they have is irrelevant. I can teach someone basic accounting skills. I can’t teach them attitude and research skills and other things that university provides They could do a year in McDonalds first to get an idea of getting out of bed and going to work in a morning. 
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31st October 2019, 10:31 PM
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And what would you know about that?
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31st October 2019, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Oct 31 2019, 10:31 PM) And what would you know about that? The post was just tongue-in-cheek. Have you no sense of humour?
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1st November 2019, 06:26 AM
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QUOTE(TheJü-Pumpkin @ Oct 31 2019, 08:23 PM) In my experience its right wingers and old people who want their safe spaces free of foreigners, gays, transgender people, those poorer than them, and basically anyone not exactly or near exactly like them with the same shared values and traditional approach. Except they don't just want a certain space, they want all the space they might want to occupy or visit to be like that. Or does that not count because it's 'normal'? That's a mass of stereotypes, which I thought lefties usually tried to avoid? 
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1st November 2019, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 31 2019, 10:03 PM) They could do a year in McDonalds first to get an idea of getting out of bed and going to work in a morning. This is the most painful irony. 
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1st November 2019, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Oct 31 2019, 10:03 PM) They could do a year in McDonalds first to get an idea of getting out of bed and going to work in a morning. Well, then they would already be an infinitely more attractive prospective employee than YOU by actually having WORKED. D |
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1st November 2019, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Nov 1 2019, 06:26 AM) That's a mass of stereotypes, which I thought lefties usually tried to avoid? Note the words "In my experience" |
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1st November 2019, 04:32 PM
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Funny how on one thread we have someone moaning about higher wages and better workers rights whose NEVER worked, and on another we have someone making snidey remarks about graduates and degrees when they didn´t go through the University system themselves.
It´s almost as if they have limited knowledge or experience on the perspective subjects and are merely basing their generalizations on stuff that they have heard thrown about on TV and in the media.
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8th November 2019, 06:03 AM
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Related article...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-76...hy-biology.html Why it pays to do maths A level: Analysis shows qualification adds £6,000 to a salary in just six years compared to geography or biology Other high earning subjects include physics, computing and business studies History A-level produces average salary of £19,400 or upper quartile £24,200 Sutton Trust said it hoped data would help pupils make more informed choices Figures draw on tax data from those who took A-levels in 2010/11 were earning |
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9th November 2019, 10:37 PM
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I think the system as it is with student loans and them having to pay it back is just fine and let them study what they want. Free university education which was in before loans was an unfair tax burden to those who don't go to uni and start work from school at 16 or 18 or go on apprenticeships. Those who want higher education should pay for it themselves gradually once they start work. It's fine as it is now. If they don't earn a lot then they'll never pay it back. I hear my daughter's friends say they''ll soon start paying it back but so what? They've been to uni.
I suddenly thought a few months after Rachel died about her student loan. Wondered if we'd have to pay it back so rang them and no it's written off in full upon death. Had to send them the death certificate though as anyone could try it on and get someone to ring and say they'd died. This post has been edited by Freddie Kruger: 9th November 2019, 10:42 PM |
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9th November 2019, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Nov 1 2019, 04:27 PM) Well, then they would already be an infinitely more attractive prospective employee than YOU by actually having WORKED. I could get a job tomorrow if I was fit to work as it's not always what you know but who you know. Wife's employers would give me one they say. This post has been edited by Freddie Kruger: 9th November 2019, 10:40 PM |
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9th November 2019, 11:25 PM
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Genuine non-snarky suggestion alert...maybe keeping yourself busy and your mind occupied with a job would help your mental state. You might even make friends out of it
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9th November 2019, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Nov 9 2019, 11:25 PM) Genuine non-snarky suggestion alert...maybe keeping yourself busy and your mind occupied with a job would help your mental state. You might even make friends out of it Are you a psychiatrist? If not then maybe don't try to diagnose someone you don't even know in real life. My Dr says I'm unfit for work so that's good enough for me. Oh and I have no desire to have any friends. Don't need 'em and don't want 'em. They're more trouble than they're worth I found. Wanting to go out and me having to buy rounds. Cheaper to drink at home alone. Oh and they borrow your CD's and return them scratched and call you mean if you won't lend them out. No thanks, am fine alone with my dog. This post has been edited by Freddie Kruger: 9th November 2019, 11:37 PM |
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