Well that shows how much you pay attention to student loans. £9,000+/year for a minimum of 3 years (4 if you do a foundation year or a 4 year masters course). That's £27,000 minimum. Add on the ridiculous interest rates of 6.6%/month or whatever it is now and the debt easily increases into £40,000+. That's only the base student loan, not taking into account the extra money you can get loaned to help with living costs.

I'm hardly ranting on as you put it. If people only discussed stuff that they have experience of there'd hardly be any discussion in this world. What about all the pub conversations going on every night? Not everyone has to experience something to discuss it.

I'll be 60 in January so I think further education for me would be a bit of a waste of time don't you?

Um no...??? Never to old for opening your mind up to new ideas and spreading your horizons.

You might find it does you some good.

I have no time.

Is there a degree in chart hits of the 70's?

We can't afford for it to be free though. We've elderly people and mentally ill teenagers in hospitals and mental hospitals as there are no places for them in the community. Plus sick and disabled are being found fit for work and having their benefits stopped due to cutbacks. The country has to tighten it's belt. Student loans are fine. If they want further education after 18 then lend them the money and let them pay it back. It's common sense.

I don´t know. It´s been some time since I completed mine. There will be plenty of music related degrees though.

My niece's best friend's dad is a lecturer in popular music. A degree in pop music? Must be the most Mickey Mouse degree ever. Waste of funding and three years.

My niece's best friend's dad is a lecturer in popular music. A degree in pop music? Must be the most Mickey Mouse degree ever. Waste of funding and three years.

Clearly at least one person is employed in it...

We don't live in North Korea Calum and I'm entitled to my opinion. May be different to yours but hey -ho.

Oh piss off. I'm assuming you think that 'waste of funding' should instead be poured into the DWP so you can get a few more cans of cider a week?

Ahh, when in doubt resort to the standard Chris response of: "you may be right, but I don't arm myself with any facts whatsoever or educate myself before I make flippant comments on things I have absolutely no idea about, so instead say that I'm entitled to an opinion and nothing else".

I do know a bit about students as my late daughter was one.

I'm not talking about students though, am I? I'm talking about a degree in popular music. Do you read posts before trolling?

Yes I do. So what in your mind is a so-called Mickey Mouse degree then?

I thought my daughter took the wrong degree and told her so. Where would English Lit and Journalism have got her? It's all about Accounting or the Sciences these days.

Journalism could get you into, I don't know, being a journalist?

Yeah but very hard to9 get in to. Her best friend did Maths at Oxford and has a good job now. Good pay and grumbles she's starting to pay her student loan straight away. Gave her a few verbal life lessons but she wasn't too impressed.