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Long Dong Silver
post 11th December 2019, 04:17 PM
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People reported it to the EC, but it's a matter for Ofcom and the Met!!

It won't gain traction. The Met won't do anything, Ofcom can't, and BBTory and ITV won't mention it.
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post 11th December 2019, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 11 2019, 04:17 PM) *
People reported it to the EC, but it's a matter for Ofcom and the Met!!

It won't gain traction. The Met won't do anything, Ofcom can't, and BBTory and ITV won't mention it.



It'll be on all the new channels tonight. Remember tomorrow they can't discuss the election until 10pm. They'll just show the leaders voting.
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post 11th December 2019, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 11 2019, 03:46 PM) *
Yes, Suedy we know what SHOULD happen.

Why did you ask the question then?
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post 11th December 2019, 08:23 PM
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And yet, they have removed the episode from iPlayer.
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post 11th December 2019, 08:35 PM
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And yet, they have removed the episode from iPlayer.



Very odd.
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post 11th December 2019, 10:53 PM
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By Peter Oborne in The Guardian.

I’ve been a loyal Conservative voter. Until very recently, I’d exclusively worked for Conservative-leaning publications: the Telegraph, Mail, London Evening Standard, Express and Spectator. Most of my friends and relations are Conservative. But I cannot vote Conservative tomorrow.

Something horrible has happened. The Conservative party lies. It cheats. It bullies. It’s not the wise, gentle, decent party of the postwar era.

I wonder whether Boris Johnson and his squalid associates are Conservatives at all. The Conservativism I understand is about public duty, generosity, the instinct to conserve what is good in our society; the importance of the rule of law and of institutions; suspicion of leaps in the dark. I am thinking of the Conservatism of Burke, Lord Salisbury, Oakeshott.

Johnson has become the leader of a project – his adviser Dominic Cummings is an important part of this – to destroy Conservatism. This is why during his brief term as prime minister Boris Johnson has attacked parliament, mocked the rule of law, abused the monarchy, and shown a total disregard for the truth.

He suppressed a report about Russian interference in British politics, then lied about the reasons. In the past few days, the prime minister has resorted to an ugly racism towards EU nationals in a last-ditch attempt to win votes. In a genuflection to Rupert Murdoch, he’s calling the BBC licence fee into question. Johnson’s Conservatives are a revolutionary sect and should be understood as such.

That’s why many traditional Conservatives have left or been driven out of the party, including David Gauke, Rory Stewart, Amber Rudd, Michael Heseltine, Ken Clarke, Matthew Parris and many others. Former prime minister John Major’s public call not to vote for Johnson was particularly powerful.

The media makes little of this. The denunciation of Jeremy Corbyn by Ian Austin, a Labour politician of negligible importance who had already left the party, got far more coverage than the cry of despair from a former Tory prime minister.

In normal circumstances I would never vote for Labour, let alone Corbyn. I still wouldn’t if I believed the terrible charge that he is an antisemite. There is a problem of antisemitism in the Labour party. And Corbyn has handled the problem badly.

I don’t deny the dreadful actions of some members of his party, but I’m not aware of evidence of Corbyn using derogatory language about Jewish people in the way that Boris Johnson routinely has against black people, gay people and Muslims.

Imagine the collective denunciations of Corbyn had he been guilty of the racist and homophobic remarks attributable to Johnson: phrases such as “piccanninies”, “watermelon smiles” and “bumboys”. There’s a double standard here.

Johnson has not shown the slightest appetite to deal with the virulent Islamophobia that poisons the Conservative party. The mainstream press in Britain has practically ignored this issue. That’s because most British newspapers are themselves Islamophobic. Johnson’s claim that his party has “zero tolerance” for Islamophobia is yet another of the cynical lies that have been the defining feature of his political campaign.

The establishment has always hated radicals like Corbyn. And it’s determined to stop him. Hence the repeated attack that Corbyn can’t be trusted on security and foreign policy.

It’s true that he opposed the three great foreign policy catastrophes of the 21st century: Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. The damage done by Iraq to our national security was huge. Corbyn was right, while Johnson and the Tory party were enthusiasts for all three.

What about Yemen? This election campaign has seen no discussion of Britain’s complicity in Saudi Arabia’s foul war. It’s a shaming omission because according to the United Nations, it has created the greatest humanitarian catastrophe of the century.

Johnson was the foreign secretary in the early stages of this conflict. He was uniquely well-placed, given that Britain was penholder at the United Nations and thanks to our alliance with Saudi Arabia, to avert the calamity. He didn’t lift a finger. Corbyn called for an end to arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

Historians will say that this election has only been about one thing: Brexit. Johnson’s election slogan – “get Brexit done” – is another of his lies. He’s a highly intelligent man and knows perfectly well that Brexit will not be solved if we leave the EU on 31 January. Trading relations with Europe will dominate politics for years to come.

Corbyn is offering a wiser solution to the Brexit problem than Boris Johnson: a final-say referendum offering a choice between remaining on existing terms or continued membership of the customs union.

By contrast, Johnson is offering a guarantee that we will leave in January, followed by a transition period lasting implausibly to the end of next year, after which we could find ourselves operating alone on World Trade Organization rules. He’s in open denial about the consequences for trade with Northern Ireland.

There will be no way back from Johnson’s Brexit. Whatever the possible economic damage inflicted by Corbyn and his chancellor John McDonnell, it will last for a maximum of five years before they can be kicked out by the electorate.

We have a strong Conservative candidate here in Brentford and Isleworth, a local woman named Seena Shah. I’ve seen her in action and in normal times I’d vote for her. Shah represents hope for the future. But she is much too good for Boris Johnson and the wrecking crew that surrounds him. I believe they want to destroy the Britain I’ve lived in and loved all my life.
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Long Dong Silver
post 11th December 2019, 11:27 PM
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Sooo was it reported on the BBTory news, Crazy Xmas?

BBTory have pulled the footage and had a grammatically accurate, typo-free tweet saying they don't believe Tory Laura broke the law. Well, that's for the police to decide. This isn't something the internal BBTory tram can whitewash.
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post 11th December 2019, 11:44 PM
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That article is brillant agree with it all especially on national security and the antisemitism claims.
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post 12th December 2019, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 11 2019, 11:27 PM) *
Sooo was it reported on the BBTory news, Crazy Xmas?

BBTory have pulled the footage and had a grammatically accurate, typo-free tweet saying they don't believe Tory Laura broke the law. Well, that's for the police to decide. This isn't something the internal BBTory tram can whitewash.



No, not a word but they've issued a statement saying they believe she did nothing wrong.
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post 12th December 2019, 12:17 AM
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I see this one hasn't been posted here yet, another Tory bias report

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Long Dong Silver
post 12th December 2019, 12:22 AM
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I saw that earlier. VILE. Absolute Ministry of Truth pro-government BULLSHIT. 1984 is here.
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post 12th December 2019, 12:26 AM
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Surely her saying the word deserves breaks impartiality rules blatantly.
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post 12th December 2019, 12:34 AM
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It does!
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post 12th December 2019, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 12 2019, 12:34 AM) *
It does!



Well we'll see what happens then. Have you emailed Ofcom?
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post 12th December 2019, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris-tmas @ Dec 11 2019, 10:53 PM) *
By Peter Oborne in The Guardian.

I’ve been a loyal Conservative voter. Until very recently, I’d exclusively worked for Conservative-leaning publications: the Telegraph, Mail, London Evening Standard, Express and Spectator. Most of my friends and relations are Conservative. But I cannot vote Conservative tomorrow.

Something horrible has happened. The Conservative party lies. It cheats. It bullies. It’s not the wise, gentle, decent party of the postwar era.

I wonder whether Boris Johnson and his squalid associates are Conservatives at all. The Conservativism I understand is about public duty, generosity, the instinct to conserve what is good in our society; the importance of the rule of law and of institutions; suspicion of leaps in the dark. I am thinking of the Conservatism of Burke, Lord Salisbury, Oakeshott.


His opinion of what the Tory party was, would be like telling a kid that santa doesn't exist, at least to MM... tongue.gif


QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 11 2019, 11:27 PM) *
Sooo was it reported on the BBTory news, Crazy Xmas?

BBTory have pulled the footage and had a grammatically accurate, typo-free tweet saying they don't believe Tory Laura broke the law. Well, that's for the police to decide. This isn't something the internal BBTory tram can whitewash.


It's also not something that can be resolved *before* the election. mellow.gif


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post 15th December 2019, 09:32 AM
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Interesting article.

Quite a chilling paragraph here:

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Another employee involved in the broadcaster’s politics output during the election said: “I’m proud of the programmes we’ve put together, but I feel like we’ve been undermined at every turn by constant gaffes on the part of senior presenters and editors. I detect an unhealthy us-versus-them mentality, an unwillingness to say sorry when the BBC gets it wrong and a genuine terror of upsetting the government in particular.”
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Long Dong Silver
post 27th December 2019, 01:34 PM
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TORY NICK, former BBTory political editoe, has just accused the BBTory of anti-Corbyn bias!!

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2015/11/20/nick...WoEM5c6qnDDMVXI

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post 27th December 2019, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(ChRiMbO LeG PiPe @ Dec 27 2019, 01:34 PM) *
TORY NICK, former BBTory political editoe, has just accused the BBTory of anti-Corbyn bias!!

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2015/11/20/nick...WoEM5c6qnDDMVXI

"Just" as in November 2015.
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post 27th May 2020, 06:33 PM
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A story in three parts. Unbelievable.



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post 27th May 2020, 06:34 PM
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quick to act on one of their best journalists (delivering the most iconic interview of modern times) yet they sit idle on Laura :')
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