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 6th January 2020, 03:59 PM
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Like committing genocide?
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6th January 2020, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Jan 6 2020, 03:59 PM)  Like committing genocide? Killing a dangerous terrorist is not genocide. |
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6th January 2020, 04:04 PM
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I didn’t say it was. This is genocide though:
QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 6 2020, 03:41 PM) There will be no war. Our Foreign Secretary said so this morning on Sky News. Just a bit of bluster from Iran. They daren't risk it. America could remove Iran from the face of the earth and I believe an angry Trump would do too. |
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6th January 2020, 04:06 PM
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Chris, I don't think you know what you're saying when you talk about Iran, Iran is a far different beast to Iraq or Afghanistan.
I have to hope that even Trump would balk at using nukes, and I do not think even he would risk it. Popping the nuke question over a mid-sized country like Iran is not the one to get out of MAD. That's the one route that would likely bring actual harm to American citizens in America. So if there is actually a war, it will be a conventional war, an invasion, and Iran is not a country that American troops can fly in, set up base camps, and start strutting about with rifles strapped to their waist to root out the guerilla resistance. It has a stable government, exceptionally difficult terrain to fight in and enough military force that could easily bog down conventional American deployments. It would be Vietnam if not worse. That's a reason why he won't go for it, but it's not about being able to crush Iran. It's more that they couldn't without expending a spectacularly unpopular and pointless excessive effort. |
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6th January 2020, 04:07 PM
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Oh and also yeah, any form of nuking is absolutely genocide and anyone who considers doing it is a very very evil man.
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6th January 2020, 04:15 PM
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I'm not saying using nukes. Where have I said that? He could all but obliterate Iran with bombs dropped from the air. Think of Bush bombing Baghdad but as an ex US general said on TV this morning "1000 times worse" Every city, every installation, the whole of Tehran virtually destroyed. Yes thousands or even millions of civilians would die and that's why they daren't push Trump too far. He's not a guy to mess with, as Farage has said today and he knows him well.
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6th January 2020, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 6 2020, 04:15 PM) I'm not saying using nukes but he could all but obliterate Iran with bombs dropped from the air. Think of Bush bombing Baghdad but as an ex US general said on TV this morning "1000 times worse" Every city, every installation, the whole of Tehran virtually destroyed. Yes mil;lions of civilians would die and that's why they daren't push Trump too far. He's not a guy to mess with, as Farage has said today and he knows him well. And how is that not genocide? |
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6th January 2020, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 6 2020, 04:17 PM) And how is that not genocide? That would be yes. I don't think Trump would nuke Iran. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: 6th January 2020, 04:21 PM |
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6th January 2020, 04:24 PM
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It doesn’t matter how he does it, you’re stating he’s prepared to commit genocide.
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6th January 2020, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Jan 6 2020, 04:24 PM) It doesn’t matter how he does it, you’re stating he’s prepared to commit genocide. So should he do nothing if they attack the US? He's said they've identified 52 sites and will hit those hard. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: 6th January 2020, 04:30 PM |
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6th January 2020, 04:33 PM
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Actually unbelievable.
Genocide is the new normal. |
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6th January 2020, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 6 2020, 03:55 PM) He's not afraid to take bold decisions. Starting a nuclear third world war because he wanted to undo everything good a black president did is not a bold decision. It is idiocy and racism of the highest level. |
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6th January 2020, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Jan 6 2020, 04:24 PM) It doesn’t matter how he does it, you’re stating he’s prepared to commit genocide. I don't know do I. He may try to avoid civilian casualties. |
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6th January 2020, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(ChRiMbO LeG PiPe @ Jan 6 2020, 04:38 PM) Starting a nuclear third world war because he wanted to undo everything good a black president did is not a bold decision. It is idiocy and racism of the highest level. Where has he said he wants to do that? |
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6th January 2020, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 6 2020, 04:15 PM) I'm not saying using nukes. Where have I said that? He could all but obliterate Iran with bombs dropped from the air. Think of Bush bombing Baghdad but as an ex US general said on TV this morning "1000 times worse" Every city, every installation, the whole of Tehran virtually destroyed. Yes thousands or even millions of civilians would die and that's why they daren't push Trump too far. He's not a guy to mess with, as Farage has said today and he knows him well. He's sounding more and more Hitlery. You are talking abput genocide. That makes Trump the bad guy. |
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6th January 2020, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 6 2020, 04:39 PM) Where has he said he wants to do that? Oh lord. |
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6th January 2020, 05:09 PM
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For goodness sake Chris. Just stop with this doubling down. What you've been saying today is absolutely ridiculous. Unashamedly continuously supporting someone who would be okay and actually already threatened Iran with LITERAL genocide and calling that as "bold decision"?
What the actual fuck guys. |
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6th January 2020, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(SausageDestroyer @ Jan 6 2020, 05:09 PM) For goodness sake Chris. Just stop with this doubling down. What you've been saying today is absolutely ridiculous. Unashamedly continuously supporting someone who would be okay and actually already threatened Iran with LITERAL genocide and calling that as "bold decision"? What the actual fuck guys. He will only attack if they do first. Do you expect the US to do nothing?  He's given them a fair warning as far as I can see. Go on Twitter and see the support for him there. "Best US President ever and afraid of no-one" Hillary would have been worse. She was a warmongerer. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: 6th January 2020, 05:44 PM |
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6th January 2020, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(SausageDestroyer @ Jan 6 2020, 05:09 PM) For goodness sake Chris. Just stop with this doubling down. What you've been saying today is absolutely ridiculous. Unashamedly continuously supporting someone who would be okay and actually already threatened Iran with LITERAL genocide and calling that as "bold decision"? What the actual fuck guys. He has said they'll hit 52 sites. I assume many are military installations. We don't know how many civilians are there. He hasn't threatened genocide. There are always some civilian casualties. Bush and Blair were guilty of genocide then. but they haven't been arrested. Apparently he has said places of cultural significance are not exempt but I believe the UN and international law states they must be. So yes he is wrong on that. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: 6th January 2020, 05:46 PM |
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6th January 2020, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 6 2020, 05:39 PM) He will only attack if they do first. Do you expect the US to do nothing? He's given them a fair warning as far as I can see. Go on Twitter and see the support for him there. "Best US President ever and afraid of no-one" Hillary would have been worse. She was a warmongerer. He's already attacked first. Now he is threatening genocide and you are supporting the idiot. The fact that there are a lot of morons on Twitter proves nothing. After all, plenty of other tinpot dictators have had a lot of support in their country. |
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