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 USA vs Iran, Top Iranian general confirmed killed in U.S. airstrike |
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 6th January 2020, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 6 2020, 05:42 PM)  He has said they'll hit 52 sites. I assume many are military installations. We don't know how many civilians are there. He hasn't threatened genocide. There are always some civilian casualties. Bush and Blair were guilty of genocide then. but they haven't been arrested. Apparently he has said places of cultural significance are not exempt but I believe the UN and international law states they must be. So yes he is wrong on that. Many? Not all then. He has threatened cultural sites. That is specifically prohibited under international law. Look at the outrage when Isis trashed historic sites such as Palmyra. |
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6th January 2020, 05:52 PM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Its as if you rightwingers on here think we can't see the pattern of what kind of people you support and what kinds you have all kinds of problems with.
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6th January 2020, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 6 2020, 05:48 PM) Many? Not all then. He has threatened cultural sites. That is specifically prohibited under international law. Look at the outrage when Isis trashed historic sites such as Palmyra. I have said that's wrong but who's going to tell him? Also he has to tell Congress of any military action but he says his Tweets serve as telling them. I admit he's wrong on that too. |
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6th January 2020, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Jüpiter👑 @ Jan 6 2020, 05:52 PM) Its as if you rightwingers on here think we can't see the pattern of what kind of people you support and what kinds you have all kinds of problems with. Oh don't try to bring the race card in to it in a thinly veiled way. Guy was a dangerous terrorist whatever the colour of his skin. |
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6th January 2020, 06:31 PM
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Thank you President Trump for killing Soleimani, justice has been served in some tiny way for the gay Iranian men who were hanged from cranes organised by Soleimani and for the British soliders that have been killed and maimed from organised terrorist attacks from Soleimani.
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6th January 2020, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(PeaceMob @ Jan 6 2020, 06:31 PM) Thank you President Trump for killing Soleimani, justice has been served in some tiny way for the gay Iranian men who were hanged from cranes organised by Soleimani and for the British soliders that have been killed and maimed from organised terrorist attacks from Soleimani. That's not justice. Justice involves that old-fashioned concept of a fair trial. |
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6th January 2020, 08:13 PM
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I can’t believe what I’m reading. The defence of actual genocide and war crimes makes me sick. Take a long hard look at yourselves.
This needs de-escalation ASAP. Am just praying that Iran of all countries can be the bigger party and not retaliate. The second they retaliate we’re in a full war situation. So so so so so so proud of the Iraqis though. They are absolutely spot on to vote to evict the yanks. Their invited guest has repeatedly violated Iraq’s sovereignty and dramatically escalated regional tensions. A lot was made after WWII of ensuring the Germans could never have a major armed forces again, top of the agenda after WWIII should be dismantling the US Military Industrial Complex and ensuring they can never destroy entire regions with their oil warfare. The sooner the oil runs out the better for humanity. |
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7th January 2020, 06:02 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 6 2020, 07:56 PM) That's not justice. Justice involves that old-fashioned concept of a fair trial. Good luck in get the perpetrators to hand themselves over for one... |
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7th January 2020, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 7 2020, 06:02 AM) Good luck in get the perpetrators to hand themselves over for one... That’s not the point and you know it. |
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7th January 2020, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 7 2020, 08:28 AM) That’s not the point and you know it. Yes, so? |
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7th January 2020, 11:09 AM
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From CNN.
In the wake of Donald Trump’s drone strike on Iran’s top general Qasem Soleimani just days ago, safety concerns and security are high at today’s Golden Globes. The number of security checks on guests are unprecedented and a "sterile" no vehicle perimeter is in force all day. Sniffer dogs will perform checks inside the building all day and a final one just before the show starts. “We are in a state of high alert,” a source at the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department told Deadline today of the 77th Globes as tensions escalate in the Middle East and Iranian and American officials offer threats of more explosive action. The FBI is also involved. While officially the Alex Villanueva-led LASD had no statement on this evening’s event at the Beverly Hilton, we are also being told that there is a greater than ever presence by the Department “both seen by the naked eye and behind the scenes.” Security has also been stepped up in cities all around the US but especially in New York and Washington. Dozens more heavily armed Secret Service agents, some with machine guns visible, are guarding the outer perimeter of the White House after a bounty was placed on the President's head. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris: 7th January 2020, 11:18 AM |
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7th January 2020, 06:29 PM
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I came in here because I'm genuinely worried and wanted to see some down-to-earth responses about what's going on and instead I end up with the same old arguments that are on every other thread in here except this time you're actually supporting actions that could very likely kill hundreds of innocent civilians?
Chris/vidcapper etc., imagine you were in Iran right now and saw people arguing about your country and your lives right now how would you feel? These are real people we're talking about, just because they're not from the UK doesn't mean you can treat them any differently. At this point I feel like if war did break out and Boris re-established conscription again then you would put your full support behind it and that scares me. |
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7th January 2020, 07:23 PM
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They support ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING Bojo does. Chris is just a government Bojo Trump propaganda speaker at this point. He's as bad as the BBC. The comments he made r.e genocide were just wow.
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7th January 2020, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(ChRiMbO LeG PiPe @ Jan 7 2020, 07:23 PM) They support ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING Bojo does. Chris is just a government Bojo Trump propaganda speaker at this point. He's as bad as the BBC. The comments he made r.e genocide were just wow. I never supported genocide at all Michael. Of course it's wrong. |
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7th January 2020, 07:34 PM
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So Trump "wiping" a country "off the map" cannot be waved away as a "bold decision" and cannot be supported, yes?
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7th January 2020, 08:56 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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White man right,of course. Especially if he's just a little bit racist and stickin it to the progressives. Hehehe all good fun,,back to the good old days when any white man was automatically at the top of the pyramid no matter what he had or hadn't done with his life. Let's call a spade a spade here.
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8th January 2020, 12:52 AM
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Iran has launched missiles at an Iraqi base. Let's hope the USA keeps calm and de-escalates. But seeing as Trump wants a war to get re-elected...
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8th January 2020, 01:51 AM
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Looks like Iran has responded. Praying everything will end now but this is where escalation begins.
This is why the USA can't go around assassinating enemy officials, because Iran weren't going to be cowed, they are a nation that will respond, and why so many of us were scared of such an unpredictable man in the White House, he's started a war and it's on him. Lives are on this man's head. |
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8th January 2020, 02:17 AM
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Well this decade is off to a great start in the world isn't it...
Apparently there have been no US casualties (but a few Iraqi ones possibly?) and Iran has said they won't do more attacks unless the US respond, if sanity prevails this will be the end of this. That's a pretty huge if though. |
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8th January 2020, 05:48 AM
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QUOTE(PeteFromLeeds @ Jan 7 2020, 06:29 PM) Chris/vidcapper etc., imagine you were in Iran right now and saw people arguing about your country and your lives right now how would you feel? These are real people we're talking about, just because they're not from the UK doesn't mean you can treat them any differently. At this point I feel like if war did break out and Boris re-established conscription again then you would put your full support behind it and that scares me. Why name *me*? I expressed my doubts over Trump's actions in Iran right here in this thread! |
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