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 USA vs Iran, Top Iranian general confirmed killed in U.S. airstrike |
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 8th January 2020, 08:35 AM
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Trump Tweeted "All is well" as regards casualties and he'll speak later this morning. Doesn't sound to be enraged really.
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8th January 2020, 01:32 PM
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There's been an aircrash over the night. Ukrainian flight from Tehran to Kiev, suffered a technical fault. 180 passengers dead. Because of the timing, there's a suspicion that it's related to these current events - and it would be a very unfortunate coincidence. My guess is that it was a terrible mistake on the part of some Iranian air defense system but that will have to be looked into now.
Johnson very quickly condemned the Iranian retaliation on the Iraqi base at PMQs today, fair enough but with sideeye that he was much quicker off the mark when it wasn't the US as the aggressor. Also seen some analysis which the hopeful part of me wants to agree with, that this response by the Iranians was muted enough precisely so they could save face but avoid committing an action that would absolutely demand retribution. Very terrible for the Iraqis caught in the crossfire though, the latest reports I saw were that those were the only casualties. |
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9th January 2020, 12:18 AM
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Yeah it seems like the big if from my last post might have come through, Trump's response to this has been remarkably measured. If the Iranians are happy with just causing some property damage as retribution (it appears there were no deaths or injuries at all, not even the rumoured Iraqi ones) and aren't going to do any further attacks, basically taking a sort of moral high ground, then we might be getting away without sparking a huge war. At least until Trump inevitably does something incredibly stupid and escalatory again.
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9th January 2020, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 8 2020, 08:35 AM)  Trump Tweeted "All is well" as regards casualties and he'll speak later this morning. Doesn't sound to be enraged really. I notice that in PMQ's Corbyn never once spoke out against the Iranian regime - I guess he still hasn't twigged that his refusal to condemn repressive regimes & terrorists was yet another electoral millstone... This post has been edited by vidcapper: 9th January 2020, 07:23 AM |
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9th January 2020, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 9 2020, 07:23 AM) I notice that in PMQ's Corbyn never once spoke out against the Iranian regime - I guess he still hasn't twigged that his refusal to condemn repressive regimes & terrorists was yet another electoral millstone... No obviously not. Still he'll be gone soon. |
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10th January 2020, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 5 2020, 08:46 AM) Surely if they kill any Americans he'd be right to hit back? I'd hit back very hard! Don't know about you. It'll be Iran escalating things now and the next move is theirs. How on earth would that be Iran escalating it when the US did what they did?? 
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10th January 2020, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 6 2020, 09:54 AM) Trump didn't attack a country. He took out an evil man, a known terrorist who was threatening the safety of the US and it's assets and allies. End of. As they're saying on Sky now, they had a chance to kill him before but chose not to. Trump decided the time was right now.  your hilarious. Did you know who this guy was 2 weeks ago? And yet now your reciting shite you hear in the right wing British media because it suits your pro American views. Insufferable 
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10th January 2020, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(Crazy Chris @ Jan 9 2020, 08:01 AM) No obviously not. Still he'll be gone soon. Wrong! Check his record. He has condemned Iran's actions on mulitple occasions and did so again r.e their missile strike. Constant condemnation, especially in times of crisis, is hardly diplomatic, not that bojo the clown would know. And that is the difference between a statesman and a born to rule toff etonian clown. |
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10th January 2020, 08:48 AM
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Western Intelligence agencies now believe that Iran accidentally fired a missile at the downed Ukranian passenger jet that killed 176 people.
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10th January 2020, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(ChRiMbO LeG PiPe @ Jan 10 2020, 08:47 AM) Wrong! Check his record. He has condrmned Iran's actions on mulitple occasions and did so again r.e their missile strike. Constant condemnation, especially in times of crisis, is hardly diplonatic, not that bojo the clown would know. And that is the difference between a statesman and a born to rule toff etonian clown. PMQs this week highlighted why I will miss JC once he leaves the front bench, he was one of the few people in the Commons and the media willing to be critical of the US actions. |
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10th January 2020, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Jan 10 2020, 08:48 AM) Western Intelligence agencies now believe that Iran accidentally fired a missile at the downed Ukranian passenger jet that killed 176 people. Did the plane come down around the same time as the attacks on the US bases in Iraq? |
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10th January 2020, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jan 10 2020, 08:19 AM) How on earth would that be Iran escalating it when the US did what they did?? So the US acted totally unprovoked by any previous incidents? 
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10th January 2020, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jan 10 2020, 08:59 AM) Did the plane come down around the same time as the attacks on the US bases in Iraq? A few hours later. It's likely that their defence surface-to-air missiles were activated by mistake.. not great that it can't discern between a passenger jet and a hostile military jet. |
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10th January 2020, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 10 2020, 09:03 AM) So the US acted totally unprovoked by any previous incidents? What incidents would they be that they felt the need to assassinate a member of the Iranian inner circle? |
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11th January 2020, 05:43 AM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jan 10 2020, 08:10 PM) What incidents would they be that they felt the need to assassinate a member of the Iranian inner circle? What am I, a member of the CIA? 
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11th January 2020, 06:20 AM
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Iran finally admitted they were the ones to shoot the plane down “unintentionally”.
The deaths might as well be on Trump’s hands. Without all this tension and calling to arms I believe it most likely wouldn’t have happened. Which proves that this whole situation is beyond stupid. It’s just a few people trying to compare dicks yet 176 people die and millions more suffer consequences of their reckless actions and incompetence. This goes for both Iran and USA. |
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11th January 2020, 06:21 AM
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Trigger ready children should stay away from politics.
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11th January 2020, 08:21 AM
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I'm shocked they admitted it! Then again there was some pretty hard to deny video footage.
It's hard to imagine they did it on purpose so it's very likely just a tragic accident caused by being on too high alert. |
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11th January 2020, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(Bré @ Jan 11 2020, 09:21 AM) I'm shocked they admitted it! Then again there was some pretty hard to deny video footage. Evidence never stopped other nations from denying involvement in accidents, so I'm glad they at least admitted it. Now we need justice for the ones that lost loved ones in a pointless accident |
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11th January 2020, 10:29 AM
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It's no real surprise but good they admitted it. There was many people on board including Iranians so it was clearly a mistake but as the other poster said it wouldn't have happened but for the tensions created by we all know who.
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