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 Labour Party Leadership contest, Keir we go |
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 1st April 2020, 04:55 PM
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It doesn't really matter. We now live in a one party state dictatorship in all but name. I'd vote for a model bus before I ever voted for a tory, especially Bojo the clown.
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4th April 2020, 09:51 AM
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 Howdy, disco citizens
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Sir Keir Starmer is the new Labour leader, elected on the first count.
Angela Rayner is the new deputy leader, elected on the third count. Results were slightly delayed, as the Labour Party website crashed. |
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4th April 2020, 09:55 AM
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one of the few times i can post this re anything political:
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4th April 2020, 10:08 AM
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Been waiting for this. I hope Sir Keir can build a strong shadow cabinet that represents as much of the mainstream left as he can (Angela Rayner being deputy is hopefully a good sign on that front), and start holding the Tories to account, ensuring that they are still meaningfully different.
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4th April 2020, 10:11 AM
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Let's hope we now get a properly-functioning opposition.
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4th April 2020, 10:18 AM
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Will be interesting to see what his shadow cabinet will look like - he's inherited two election cycles worth of Corbynite MPs, so will see if his cabinet is made up of mainly MPs elected in 2015 or earlier, or if newer figures will also be included.
Of course, if he really wanted to make a break from the past, he could set his stall out early by expelling Corbyn a la Militant in the 80s. He won't, but he could - given that as an opposition party he's not reliant on MP numbers to stay in power, unlike the Tories who need to keep their numbers above 325, Labour could lose a handful of MPs without taking a hit to their standing. |
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4th April 2020, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Apr 4 2020, 10:11 AM)  Let's hope we now get a properly-functioning opposition. It's all over now, but we had a functioning opposition, we had an opposition that caused the most government defeats in history and brought left ideas back into the political mainstream from years where they'd disappeared into the ether. I reckon that in the long run the Labour defeats will be seen as inevitable due to British political culture but did their job to start changing the culture. And my hope for Starmer is that he'll continue that while making it more palatable for voting purposes. I certainly won't miss the polarisation it seemed to imbue people with (or well, the press doing their fervor-whipping, one upside is that the normally insufferable journalist class seem to be happy today so...) and I'm looking forward to Starmer challenging Johnson in his own way but I really hope he knows how to keep Labour a forward-looking progressive party that looks after workers over corporations. |
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4th April 2020, 10:25 AM
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Why don’t you say so?
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Absolutely over the moon with the Starmer win!!! His speech was very good. I believe he will do well in the role and bring new factions into the Labour movement!!!
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4th April 2020, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(I. :II: z @ Apr 4 2020, 11:22 AM) It's all over now, but we had a functioning opposition, we had an opposition that caused the most government defeats in history and brought left ideas back into the political mainstream from years where they'd disappeared into the ether. I reckon that in the long run the Labour defeats will be seen as inevitable due to British political culture but did their job to start changing the culture. And my hope for Starmer is that he'll continue that while making it more palatable for voting purposes. I certainly won't miss the polarisation it seemed to imbue people with (or well, the press doing their fervor-whipping, one upside is that the normally insufferable journalist class seem to be happy today so...) and I'm looking forward to Starmer challenging Johnson in his own way but I really hope he knows how to keep Labour a forward-looking progressive party that looks after workers over corporations. This! Happy enough with Starmer, would have been my choice out of the candidates. Even if he wouldn't be from my wing of the party. Cringeworthy to see Labour First and moderates all asking for unity now. The shadow cabinet will be interesting I've a horrible feeling Rachel Reeves or someone like that will be shadow chancellor which would be a poor start. |
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4th April 2020, 11:34 AM
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I kinda forgot all about this oops, but excellent choice. Soft Left is definitely what Labour should be going for right now and if this shitshow of a government continues, they'll have a lot to call them out on next election.
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4th April 2020, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Apr 4 2020, 10:55 AM) one of the few times i can post this re anything political: yaaaaaaaaasssssssss OMG this!!! |
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4th April 2020, 12:01 PM
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I have been impressed by Dr Rosena during the campaign from what I’ve seen, having known nothing about her beforehand. Hopefully she can be part of the shadow cabinet, possibly Shadow Health Secretary.
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4th April 2020, 12:19 PM
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I've heard almost nothing about this for weeks for obvious reasons. Predictable result but happy with it, I hope they don't turn out to be entirely irrelevant. xx
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4th April 2020, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Apr 4 2020, 01:01 PM) I have been impressed by Dr Rosena during the campaign from what I’ve seen, having known nothing about her beforehand. Hopefully she can be part of the shadow cabinet, possibly Shadow Health Secretary. Jonathan Ashworth has been doing a decent job as Shadow Health Secretary over the last few weeks. He has struck the right balance between being generally supportive of the government's efforts while still asking pertinent questions. I would have thought he would keep the job, at least for now. |
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4th April 2020, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Apr 4 2020, 01:01 PM) I have been impressed by Dr Rosena during the campaign from what I’ve seen, having known nothing about her beforehand. Hopefully she can be part of the shadow cabinet, possibly Shadow Health Secretary. Yeh her video during the election campaign was class! |
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4th April 2020, 03:54 PM
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Well thank god that the leadership contest is over is all I’ll say! Nandy was my first choice but still happy with Starmer. Even moreso than ever we can’t predict what the future holds but hopefully with a more professional operation from the opposition will stand us all in good stead for when that future comes.
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4th April 2020, 05:12 PM
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Pleased by the result. At the very least it will be interesting watching how fast the media shift to portraying Kier as the spawn of Satan despite having excellent credentials and a classic British underdog story.
Fascinating indictment of the power of the media portraying a certain image how Jeremy Corbyn - the absolute stereotype of a kindly, well-meaning, uncontroversial English grandfather figure who made jam and gardened and rode the bus to work, became public enemy number 1. I would hope Keir will be able to actually sway some people back though. My absolute ideal would be if the media would take it down a notch and stop altogether portraying the very concept of something being 'left' as a dirty word. Insane that that is still the narrative in a world where we are more dependent than ever right now on socialized medicine, low-paid workers sacrificing for the good of the nation, a UBI in all but name, and more people than ever before reliant on state benefits just to keep a roof over their head and food in the kïtchen. This post has been edited by J00ps: 4th April 2020, 05:13 PM |
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5th April 2020, 12:50 AM
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Heard Annalise Dodds is tipped as shadow chancellor & Jo Stevens as shadow foreign secretary & Nicklas Thomas-Symonds as Shadow Home Sec!
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6th April 2020, 07:21 AM
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Why don’t you say so?
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The Shadow Cabinet is coming together very well. The picks so far are very credible.
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6th April 2020, 10:17 AM
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Yes my source was near spot on apart from Lisa Nandy at Foreign secretary.
The rest is being done today! |
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