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post 1st November 2020, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(Scary Spice(boy) @ Nov 1 2020, 08:00 PM) *
Shall we wait and see what it is before we all drag poor Geri to the pits of hell. I'm not massively fond of her either tbh but some of the comments, anyone would think she had personally put LGBTQ+ into a concentration camp while wearing royal attire! blink.gif

I think the royal theme is an obvious nod to Elizabeth I personally, nothing to do with Geri seeing herself as a royal person (and she never did it was the Ginger persona which has always had showgirl / pop princess vibes anyway), but lets wait and see before we throw her into the lion pit.


Did you not see her opening outfit for the SW19 tour? Her gushing about queen Elizabeth during the Spice Girls interval talk on the screens at the tour.

She most definitely has some weird obsession right now in being seen as regal and in royalty.
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post 1st November 2020, 09:11 PM
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I think Geri just loves/admires influential women in history. She made a big deal about her SW 2019 dress being a statement that she no longer feels the need to show lots of flesh in her 40s.

I've never looked on Geri as a snob at all she has always been about recycling old outfits and being more Camden Market than Designer.
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post 1st November 2020, 09:11 PM
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Geri is, and forever, will be my girl. Fight me about this.

I love her views and I agree with her.
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post 1st November 2020, 09:17 PM
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I'm not sure why she did a teaser trailer without a date for release

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post 1st November 2020, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(dancinqueen @ Nov 1 2020, 09:18 AM) *
Not that Gerita was ever my fave, but I’m kinda sad to her acting this way. The whole royal obsession is pathetic. And this desperate housewife image has no girl power.

And don’t let me start with what she said about ‘lesbian feminism’. This will be such bad publicity if she’s going to release an LGBTQ+ inclusive book.

Desperate housewife image? What a slap in the face to all the hard-working housewives around the world. What is the obsession with gay male Spice fans who want Geri to dress and act like she did in her 20's?


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post 1st November 2020, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(Sideout @ Nov 1 2020, 10:49 PM) *
Desperate housewife image? What a slap in the face to all the hard-working housewives around the world. What is the obsession with gay male Spice fans who want Geri to dress and act like she did in her 20's?


What is it with people thinking anyone taking issue with the way Geri currently acts and portrays herself wants her to dress like it was 1997.

Geri is 47 there are lots of older celebrities or famous people I like and they don’t dress like they are 20 either.

Let's be honest if wearing white, tory voting, Lady of the manor Geri had never been in the Spice Girls most of us wouldn't even acknowledge her existence and most would actively dislike her as she is the antithesis of what most of us are looking for in an artist.

I'll be honest Geri currently embodies a lot of things I dislike in people and that is nothing to do with her not dressing like she is 20. Tori Amos, Kathy Burke, Sheryl Crow and so on are other women I admire that don't dress like they are in their 20s but they also aren't horrific lady of the manor, tory wife women either.


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QUOTE(sammy01 @ Nov 1 2020, 04:29 PM) *
What is it with people thinking anyone taking issue with the way Geri currently acts and portrays herself wants her to dress like it was 1997.

Geri is 47 there are lots of older celebrities or famous people I like and they don’t dress like they are 20 either.

Let's be honest if wearing white, tory voting, Lady of the manor Geri had never been in the Spice Girls most of us wouldn't even acknowledge her existence and most would actively dislike her as she is the antithesis of what most of us are looking for in an artist.

I'll be honest Geri currently embodies a lot of things I dislike in people and that is nothing to do with her not dressing like she is 20. Tori Amos, Kathy Burke, Sheryl Crow and so on of other women I admire don't dress like they are in their 20s but they also aren't horrific lady of the manor, tory wife women either.

Oh no! Geri doesn't act like the pop star you want her to be. Oh no! Geri is a devoted wife and mother. How terrible!


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post 2nd November 2020, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(Scary Spice(boy) @ Nov 1 2020, 09:00 PM) *
Shall we wait and see what it is before we all drag poor Geri to the pits of hell. I'm not massively fond of her either tbh but some of the comments, anyone would think she had personally put LGBTQ+ into a concentration camp while wearing royal attire! blink.gif

I think the royal theme is an obvious nod to Elizabeth I personally, nothing to do with Geri seeing herself as a royal person (and she never did it was the Ginger persona which has always had showgirl / pop princess vibes anyway), but lets wait and see before we throw her into the lion pit.


Did you see her at last year's concert? Everytime she spoke to the crowd, it seemed like she was Elizabeth herself, almost talking like "my people". My boyfriend and I still joke about it all the time. And I don't want to drag her, as I do think she clearly has some issues and has had a pretty tough live, but it does make sense a lot of fans are upset / disappointed with the way she is behaving these days. An this has nothing to do with the way she dresses, but more the way she acts in general. Geri has always been my favourite and will always have a special place in my heart BUT I do think we can be critical of the things she says and does.

And like I said in another topic, no one is saying Geri is anti-LGBT (although her shutting down the Mel B rumours were questionable, with her 'it will upset my husband' which clearly IS a homophobic statement), but she is supporting an anti-LGBT party and government and therefore also responsible for this anti-LGBT sentiment. So she can perform in G-A-Y as much as she likes, but that still doesn't mean she is the ally we all thought (and hoped) she was.
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post 2nd November 2020, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(Chemistry @ Nov 2 2020, 07:28 AM) *
Did you see her at last year's concert? Everytime she spoke to the crowd, it seemed like she was Elizabeth herself, almost talking like "my people". My boyfriend and I still joke about it all the time. And I don't want to drag her, as I do think she clearly has some issues and has had a pretty tough live, but it does make sense a lot of fans are upset / disappointed with the way she is behaving these days. An this has nothing to do with the way she dresses, but more the way she acts in general. Geri has always been my favourite and will always have a special place in my heart BUT I do think we can be critical of the things she says and does.

And like I said in another topic, no one is saying Geri is anti-LGBT (although her shutting down the Mel B rumours were questionable, with her 'it will upset my husband' which clearly IS a homophobic statement), but she is supporting an anti-LGBT party and government and therefore also responsible for this anti-LGBT sentiment. So she can perform in G-A-Y as much as she likes, but that still doesn't mean she is the ally we all thought (and hoped) she was.


This is exactly it! Well said.
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post 2nd November 2020, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(Chemistry @ Nov 2 2020, 07:28 AM) *
Did you see her at last year's concert? Everytime she spoke to the crowd, it seemed like she was Elizabeth herself, almost talking like "my people". My boyfriend and I still joke about it all the time. And I don't want to drag her, as I do think she clearly has some issues and has had a pretty tough live, but it does make sense a lot of fans are upset / disappointed with the way she is behaving these days. An this has nothing to do with the way she dresses, but more the way she acts in general. Geri has always been my favourite and will always have a special place in my heart BUT I do think we can be critical of the things she says and does.

And like I said in another topic, no one is saying Geri is anti-LGBT (although her shutting down the Mel B rumours were questionable, with her 'it will upset my husband' which clearly IS a homophobic statement), but she is supporting an anti-LGBT party and government and therefore also responsible for this anti-LGBT sentiment. So she can perform in G-A-Y as much as she likes, but that still doesn't mean she is the ally we all thought (and hoped) she was.


Please explain in detail how Tories are anti-LGBT.
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post 2nd November 2020, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(Sideout @ Nov 1 2020, 10:49 PM) *
Desperate housewife image? What a slap in the face to all the hard-working housewives around the world. What is the obsession with gay male Spice fans who want Geri to dress and act like she did in her 20's?


I have a hard-working mother, classy woman, that doesn’t need to act like a privileged silver spoon.

As for Miss Horner, everything she’s been doing lately screams desperate. She used to be camp, she decided that wasn’t appropriate to her age anymore and that’s respectable. She’s all about this commonwealth *ish, bet Dutchess Geri Horner the formerly G.A.Y. Icon doesn’t give a damn anymore about LGBTQ+ right in Commonwealth nations.


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QUOTE(tommie @ Nov 2 2020, 11:22 AM) *
Please explain in detail how Tories are anti-LGBT.


Are you serious? A simple google will reveal a lot of results. The current Gov has specifically targetted LGBTQ protections, more recently to the GRA consultation, attempting to overthrown trans rights in the UK, for instance.

Boris himself has been incredibly homophobic, consistently demonising gay men in particular. Theresa May's cabinet deliberatly outed a gay man in the press against his own will, to overshadow the fact that he was giving public evidence of the illegal actions of the Gov around the Brexit vote.

The Home Office has worked to remove the rights of LGBTQ+ asylum seekers in the UK, forcing them to 'provide evidence' on their sexuality which would include providing sex tapes to prove their sexuality. I worked with asylum seeking groups and the stories are horrific.

There are two things that the tories done for the white gay community: gay marriage and provision of PreP. None of them were won with Tory votes, in fact if it wasnt for coalition of opposition parties support on those votes, we wouldnt have either cos the majority of tories voted against those.

Furthermore, their politics and ideologies of individualism and 'some are greater than others' is directly to the detriment of minorities in general, including LGBTQ+.

The list goes on and on and on, to be honest. The tories only care for the pink pound when it suits them.
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post 2nd November 2020, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 2 2020, 11:39 AM) *
Are you serious? A simple google will reveal a lot of results. The current Gov has specifically targetted LGBTQ protections, more recently to the GRA consultation, attempting to overthrown trans rights in the UK, for instance.


You are conflating gay rights with rights to put children on puberty blockers. Thank Goodness that the UK Government did something about the Mermaids bs that was floating around.
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post 2nd November 2020, 01:09 PM
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I cant believe people think it was ok for Mel B to blurt out on national TV that she had slept with Geri. Whether its true or not it was awful to do it without talking it over with Geri first.

Sexuality is irrelevant I'd think it was tacky as hell if for example Lee from Steps blurted-out that he'd slept with Lisa back in the day without her consent.


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post 2nd November 2020, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Nov 2 2020, 02:01 PM) *
You are conflating gay rights with rights to put children on puberty blockers. Thank Goodness that the UK Government did something about the Mermaids bs that was floating around.


I still don't know if you are being sarcastic or not (I assume so..), but if you are not- trans right are queer rights and are just as important as 'gay rights'. You can't cherry pick what you do or don't support.
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QUOTE(schizo_spice @ Nov 2 2020, 01:09 PM) *
I cant believe people think it was ok for Mel B to blurt out on national TV that she had slept with Geri. Whether its true or not it was awful to do it without talking it over with Geri first.

Sexuality is irrelevant I'd think it was tacky as hell if for example Lee from Steps blurted-out that he'd slept with Lisa back in the day without her consent.


Geri pretty much already confirmed it on Alan Carr in 2012 when the three did an interview. Her response was the complete opposite to her now, her 'it was the 90s' line would never cross prude Geri's lips now. What a difference 7 years made.
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post 2nd November 2020, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ Nov 2 2020, 02:14 PM) *
Geri pretty much already confirmed it on Alan Carr in 2012 when the three did an interview. Her response was the complete opposite to her now, her 'it was the 90s' line would never cross prude Geri's lips now. What a difference 7 years made.


She didn't confirm at all they danced around it. Very different.

It was tasteless and tacky of Mel to full on say it in the way she did particularly seeing as she and Geri were about to be working together.
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QUOTE(tommie @ Nov 2 2020, 02:01 PM) *
You are conflating gay rights with rights to put children on puberty blockers. Thank Goodness that the UK Government did something about the Mermaids bs that was floating around.


OK this is straight up transphobia and it really isnt a good look, hun. Mermaids support trans children and their parents and do vital work. Trans kids have as much right to exist as you do!

The way people in the UK talk about trans people is the same as homophobes used to back in the 80s and 90s during the Section 28 days. It has led to a lot of trans people and kids being beaten, harrassed on the street and online.

Please recalibrate what you are saying and understand that this is fundamentally a human rights issue!


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QUOTE(Chemistry @ Nov 2 2020, 02:55 PM) *
I still don't know if you are being sarcastic or not (I assume so..), but if you are not- trans right are queer rights and are just as important as 'gay rights'. You can't cherry pick what you do or don't support.


THIS!
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QUOTE(schizo_spice @ Nov 2 2020, 02:09 PM) *
I cant believe people think it was ok for Mel B to blurt out on national TV that she had slept with Geri. Whether its true or not it was awful to do it without talking it over with Geri first.

Sexuality is irrelevant I'd think it was tacky as hell if for example Lee from Steps blurted-out that he'd slept with Lisa back in the day without her consent.


That really is besides the point here though, however much I agree with you.
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