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> Melanie C - 'Version of Me', 2016 • 7th Album / 6th anniversary
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post 22nd October 2020, 09:30 PM
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Version of Me worse than This Time? This Time is the queen of MOR.

Version of Me and Melanie C are not too different in sound. Melanie C has more stand out bangers than VOM.
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post 22nd October 2020, 09:41 PM
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This Time has to be my least favourite album of hers.

It's just painfully boring.
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post 22nd October 2020, 10:35 PM
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I had This Time on in the car today and it has some gorgeous songs. I forgot how much I love What if I stay it's so simple but gorgeous... my husband was in the car and he was like "this song is very relaxing it's nice!" (poor guy I'm always dragging him to Melanie C shows etc etc lol).
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post 28th January 2021, 07:06 PM
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I just listened to this album and whilst some songs really stand out and continue to be lovely, I had to skip more than a few tracks this time (buy this time) sleep.gif

It's a very strange album. I quite liked it at first and you can see there is some progression in sound from the previous one, but overall it is very uneven and a bit meh...

The good:

- Loving You Better - still the best song in the album for me, it is classy as hell...
- Numb - actually quite cute and relistening did bring me joy!
- Room for Love - it's a good song, nothing amazing but it is a nice addition to her catalogue
- Anymore - the beat is great and the verses are cool too. The only thing that makes it Good rather than Great is the lyrics in the chorus. They sound so insincere....
- Version of Me - it is a good song indeed, just a bit grating otherwise it would be a Great song lol

The meh:

- Dear Life - that lyrical content is bad, jesus... why would you actually include the line 'Don't know if I believe in a God, Don't know if I believe there's not' ohmy.gif it's so clunky for the sake of a rhyme, it sounds like she is a 12 year old writing a song... I cant actually believe it was a single....
- Escalator - it is fine, nothing major... certainly feels dated as hell
- Our History - it's alright... a bit grating as well and a bit forgetful, but it passes...

The straight up bad:
- Something for the Fire - I hate it. Burn it all the way to hell! Probably the worst song she has ever done.
- Unravelling - I had to turn it off.

I think overall it is clearly an in-between album, where she was moving towards more electronic sounds and moving away a bit from her previous records' style of pop, but she never quite moves away from that at least here. It has good moments, but overall it is not a pleasurable experience to endure lol

The highs are good tracks, but the lows and the mehs are bit toooooo grating to be enjoyable..

GLAD SHE MOVED ON!!
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post 28th January 2021, 07:26 PM
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^ You forgot to rate Blame, Hold On and One Minute.
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post 28th January 2021, 07:33 PM
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VOM was a big step forward in production but man is it a deary slog lyric and subject wise.

Melanie C kept that production improvement but finally added some more interesting and positive lyrics and subject matter. This Time, The Sea and VOM were just such a downer to wade through thematically.


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post 28th January 2021, 07:52 PM
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Dear Life is legitimately a highlight of this album for me. The lyrics are fine imo! They make the theme clear... the entire song is made up of a whole lot of contradictions and uncertainty about life in general, so the opening line sets the tone well, with her placing herself as not being sure about the existence of God but not ruling it out either.
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post 28th January 2021, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(Jay❄ @ Jan 28 2021, 07:52 PM) *
Dear Life is legitimately a highlight of this album for me. The lyrics are fine imo! They make the theme clear... the entire song is made up of a whole lot of contradictions and uncertainty about life in general, so the opening line sets the tone well, with her placing herself as not being sure about the existence of God but not ruling it out either.


I get the sentiment of it, and can relate but the clunkyness of the lyrics and the rhyms are just a bit too on the nose for me. It is usually my main blink.gif about Melanie's writing to be honest... Her lyrics often feel very under cooked unsure.gif

That particular line always bothered me cos the grammar of it is twisted and unfinished and it feels like it was written like that just to rhyme. I get it, just doesnt sound good to me at all...

But maybe it just isnt my style eh
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post 28th January 2021, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Jan 28 2021, 07:26 PM) *
^ You forgot to rate Blame, Hold On and One Minute.


Oh did I?....

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post 28th January 2021, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 28 2021, 07:33 PM) *
VOM was a big step forward in production but man is it a deary slog lyric and subject wise.

Melanie C kept that production improvement but finally added some more interesting and positive lyrics and subject matter. This Time, The Sea and VOM were just such a downer to wade through thematically.


remember when she was raving on TV about how proud she was of her 'concubine' lyric and then we heard it and it was so bad laugh.gif
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post 28th January 2021, 11:00 PM
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Version of me is a bit of a weird one for me. The only song I outright dislike is Out History which I've never liked. Every other song I either like or love, yet as a whole album I'm not massively keen on it and I don't know why? I think there needs to be some more upbeat songs on it possibly.

Ps Mr X we have the same favourite song on the album Loving you better totally thought it was going to be a single I was a bit wtf at Dear life.
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post 28th January 2021, 11:06 PM
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She certainly has some absolute clunkers when it comes to lyrics. She could do with sometimes inferring or using metaphors than just stating things outright.

One of my favourite things when I get a new Tori Amos album is figuring out the meaning to songs. Sometimes I have to look up books, films, volcano goddesses or serial killers to get references or metaphors. Mel C just smashes you over the head with the meaning of a song most the time.
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post 29th January 2021, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 29 2021, 01:06 AM) *
Mel C just smashes you over the head with the meaning of a song most the time.

Like most pop artists do. Tori is / has become left-field. Why are you even comparing her to a Spice Girl?
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post 29th January 2021, 03:45 PM
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Call me basic by all means(!) but I appreciate lyrics that are reasonably straight forward and possibly relatable for being clearly conveyed. I don’t think it’s a bad aspect of writing.

Melanie C is clearly no Taylor Swift when it comes to the art of story telling and imagery in songwriting, but hey, different artists cater in different ways. If everyone wrote songs in the way Sammy describes it would be a bit exhausting imo. I do believe Melanie’s songwriting is always authentic to how she feels & she wants to clearly let us know how she feels. I like that.
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post 29th January 2021, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(Jay❄ @ Jan 29 2021, 03:45 PM) *
Call me basic by all means(!) but I appreciate lyrics that are reasonably straight forward and possibly relatable for being clearly conveyed. I don’t think it’s a bad aspect of writing.

Melanie C is clearly no Taylor Swift when it comes to the art of story telling and imagery in songwriting, but hey, different artists cater in different ways. If everyone wrote songs in the way Sammy describes it would be a bit exhausting imo. I do believe Melanie’s songwriting is always authentic to how she feels & she wants to clearly let us know how she feels. I like that.


I wasnt disputing the simplicity of her lyrics and how effective they might be. Sure, I prefer more nuance and lyrical experimentation, but absolutely adore very straight forward story telling or inspirational lyrics too. Emma does those quite fairly often, ah, and so do artists such as Ariana Grande, Adele, Madonna, etc...

What we are debating is how clunky her lyrics are, and a lot of times borderline cliché-driven with their imagery. When you have lyrics that sound shoe-horned in to make a point or illustrate without any nuance, it can be quite grating after a while as it can come across as insincere... Her last album is also full of them, though it is accompanied by excellent production and music, so it is not as grating imo...
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post 29th January 2021, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(Jay❄ @ Jan 29 2021, 03:45 PM) *
Call me basic by all means(!) but I appreciate lyrics that are reasonably straight forward and possibly relatable for being clearly conveyed. I don’t think it’s a bad aspect of writing.

Melanie C is clearly no Taylor Swift when it comes to the art of story telling and imagery in songwriting, but hey, different artists cater in different ways. If everyone wrote songs in the way Sammy describes it would be a bit exhausting imo. I do believe Melanie’s songwriting is always authentic to how she feels & she wants to clearly let us know how she feels. I like that.


It doesn't have to be massively deep or exhausting. The biggest song of the past few years is Dance Monkey which is a one massive metaphor, clever but also very easily accessible.

It would just be nice if Melanie, especially with the freedom of her own label, had a few songs where you had to dig a little deeper or were more metaphorical not so straightforward. I think it would do wonders for her writing as I agree with Mr X her writing borderlines on juvenile sometimes in its basicness and forced rhythms.


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post 29th January 2021, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 29 2021, 04:59 PM) *
It doesn't have to be massively deep or exhausting. The biggest song of the past few years is Dance Monkey which is a one massive metaphor, clever but also very easily accessible.

It would just be nice if Melanie, especially with the freedom of her own label, had a few songs where you had to dig a little deeper or were more metaphorical not so straightforward. I think it would do wonders for her writing as I agree with Mr X her writing borderlines on juvenile sometimes in its basicness and forced rhythms.


Actually you touch on a very good point: with the backing of a record label and professional A&R she could develop quite a lot as an artist and work with other writers who could challenge her to step up her game in this department at the very least. Clearly she needs it..

Not saying that she cant do that on her own, but it isnt exactly happening is it?....
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post 22nd October 2021, 01:22 PM
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Mine is 'Room for Love'. wub.gif
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post 22nd October 2021, 04:22 PM
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Anymore is mine 🥰
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post 22nd October 2021, 08:25 PM
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I went to the listening party back then and the songs sounded better live.
Overall the album is ok but in my opinion her voice is unlistenable in some songs.
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