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 9th December 2021, 11:38 PM
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 #38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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Time to bring back this thread !
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9th December 2021, 11:50 PM
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Until Covid ends. Who else wants to deal with it?
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10th December 2021, 12:31 AM
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It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva
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Too long for our poster's liking.
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10th December 2021, 04:39 AM
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 I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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Of course, lest we forget, when this thread was made, the Tories were at their lowest ebb of popularity (some of the polls just a month before this thread was made had them below 20%! It was a four-way race for the top of British politics, I miss that) and the 2019 election wasn't yet on the table.
I still can't see him going over this yet, see the below, I still think this, but I could be proven wrong. QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 24 2019, 06:42 AM)  the latter, everything about his character suggests that he will hold onto power as long as he is able. I don't see him doing what May did except under extreme duress. |
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17th December 2021, 08:56 AM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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QUOTE The government is going to try and say this is mid-term misery - and yes, by-elections are a way the public can stick two fingers up to a government when they're cross. But let's be plain: this is an appalling result for the Conservatives, in a part of the country where the tradition of voting Tory is baked into the earth. This isn’t a little slip up, it’s a disaster. People on the ground say the Tory campaign was going OK, until all of the recent shenanigans in Downing Street emerged, and that is when support fell off a cliff. Boris Johnson does have an extraordinary ability to bounce back. But there are people in the Conservative Party who are pencilling in the possibility of a summer leadership election. Things are febrile, and we shouldn't predict things with any certainty - but there's no doubt this is a really dangerous moment for the prime minister. INJECT IT TO MY VEINS. |
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17th December 2021, 08:59 AM
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My only slight hesitation is that what is waiting in the wings is somehow worse (Truss, Patel, Barker)
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17th December 2021, 05:22 PM
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Patel has no chance. Remember they want someone electable and it's doubtful that she is. The public will see her as a bully now.
It'll be Sunak v Truss and if Rishi wins then he'll make Truss the first female Chancellor. IMO. |
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17th December 2021, 05:48 PM
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People need to remember he still has an 80 seat majority.
It's only if the rebellions continue to be on the recent scale that he's got problems. |
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17th December 2021, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(ChristmasFridays @ Dec 17 2021, 05:48 PM) People need to remember he still has an 80 seat majority. It's only if the rebellions continue to be on the recent scale that he's got problems. Thatcher was dumped when she had a 100-seat majority. |
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17th December 2021, 06:03 PM
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The longer he stays until the election, the less popular they'll become at this stage (which is why I almost want him to stay just so he can keep getting worse). I can see maybe three-six more months left until he's forced out, he'll never resign.
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17th December 2021, 06:29 PM
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The thing with Johnson is that unlike Thatcher there are no real followers of his ideaology as he doesn't have any as a power hunger narcissist. Therefore he will be easier to get rid off as once the vultures in the Tory party are aware that he has lost his popularity with some members of the electorate (let's not be unfair to the half of the population knowing he's always been a shitebag) then he has outlived his natural use. So he either has to turn things around (which he doesn't have the ability to do or the support) or will go. Reckon 3-6 months.
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18th December 2021, 07:06 AM
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Get him gone, immediate election with Corbyn heading Laboue!!! Let's see if peopl3 make the right choice this time!! I think they will.
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18th December 2021, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 17 2021, 05:52 PM) Thatcher was dumped when she had a 100-seat majority. Yes, after the much hated poll tax debacle though. |
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18th December 2021, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(cider man @ Dec 18 2021, 08:41 AM) Yes, after the much hated poll tax debacle though. That was just the final straw. |
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23rd December 2021, 05:51 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if we had a leadership challenge within the next year — but surely the Tories wouldn't be foolish enough to choose Liz Truss... This post has been edited by blacksquare: 23rd December 2021, 05:51 PM |
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23rd December 2021, 07:41 PM
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She’s hateful, desperate to climb the greasy pole. The fact she was a liberal originally is confusing, or maybe it isn’t?
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23rd December 2021, 07:52 PM
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It's unfathomable how anyone would even deem her capable of running bath.
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23rd December 2021, 07:58 PM
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Elizabeth Truss of Oxford University turned on a statement by Paddy Ashdown that everybody in Britain should 'have the chance to be somebody'. But, she said, 'only one family can provide the head of state. We Liberal Democrats believe in opportunity for all. We believe in fairness and commonsense . . . we do not believe people are born to rule'.
In September 1994 at the Lib Dem conference R Liz was against Liz II R being head of state. Wonder if she still holds that view? |
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23rd December 2021, 09:35 PM
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Yes as I said before, I think it's between Sunak and Truss.. Some newspapers think she'd be harder for Starmer to beat than Sunak.
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23rd December 2021, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Dec 23 2021, 07:58 PM) Elizabeth Truss of Oxford University turned on a statement by Paddy Ashdown that everybody in Britain should 'have the chance to be somebody'. But, she said, 'only one family can provide the head of state. We Liberal Democrats believe in opportunity for all. We believe in fairness and commonsense . . . we do not believe people are born to rule'. In September 1994 at the Lib Dem conference R Liz was against Liz II R being head of state. Wonder if she still holds that view? 
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