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3rd October 2023, 07:40 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Truly sickening the way they are targeting trans again. She also made a dig when talking about preventing sec offenders from changing their names saying they would stop them changing names and gender to sexually attack others… because people are changing gender to sexually attack people aren’t they. Going through all that just so they can be a predator. She is utterly VILE!
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3rd October 2023, 07:40 PM
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Mansonette
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As Conservatives, we know what a woman is. Yes, it's one of those things you get rid of after 49 days.
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3rd October 2023, 09:50 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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The darkly amusing thing that I take from this besides the obvious impacts is: You Tories have been in power for THIRTEEN YEARS and for TWELVE YEARS AND ELEVEN MONTHS you had zero issue with trans women being on women's wards, otherwise you would have raised it sooner. Why is it SUDDENLY an issue? Being used as a distraction/scapegoat. Rishi expected to announce the scrapping of HS2 from Birmingham to Manchester tomorrow. He was also on the news today saying the #1 reason for NHS waiting lists being at record highs was due to doctors strikes They're going all out to try and blame/use whatever they can as scapegoats for their terrible track record over the last 13 years. I am very much hoping this will massively backfire and the conservatives will get annihilated at the next general election. I feel so sad for Trans women. All these non-issues previously being made into issues for the sake of a political party trying to hide its absolute incompetance. |
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4th October 2023, 12:14 PM
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Radical Pink Troll
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And the prime minister has literally come out as a huge transphobe in his speech. He makes me sick.
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4th October 2023, 02:02 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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I just can't get my head around it - they only thing they have left is to appeal to inherently transphobic people which unfortunately is "popular" to hate on now. It's disgusting, if anyone really thinks trans people are legitimately an issue for anyone they need to seek therapy.
I absolutely despair for this country. It's an embarrassment and I'm so ashamed to be British. I would hope this would turn the tides but I'm not so sure, I can't really imagine a time were not under Tory Nazi dictatorship. |
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4th October 2023, 04:07 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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The darkly amusing thing that I take from this besides the obvious impacts is: You Tories have been in power for THIRTEEN YEARS and for TWELVE YEARS AND ELEVEN MONTHS you had zero issue with trans women being on women's wards, otherwise you would have raised it sooner. Why is it SUDDENLY an issue? On a similar theme, it's interesting to me that there are those who claim to have "genuine concerns" and feel the need to speak out over the safety of children/adolescents wrt puberty blockers, yet also have absolutely nothing to say over those same people who are suffering from suicidal thoughts due to their gender dysphoria. It doesn't come from a place of love that they believe or want you to believe it does. Sadly it is because they are framing everything through their transphobia and conveniently only listening to and raising concerns when they support their own bigotry, their own stupidity induced confirmation bias. The speech yesterday from Suella was horrific, and that Tory politician being kicked out by the Police for merely disagreeing with her was incredibly worrying to see. The whole unhinged moral panic, just sick of it. |
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4th October 2023, 07:03 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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On a similar theme, it's interesting to me that there are those who claim to have "genuine concerns" and feel the need to speak out over the safety of children/adolescents wrt puberty blockers, yet also have absolutely nothing to say over those same people who are suffering from suicidal thoughts due to their gender dysphoria. It doesn't come from a place of love that they believe or want you to believe it does. Sadly it is because they are framing everything through their transphobia and conveniently only listening to and raising concerns when they support their own bigotry, their own stupidity induced confirmation bias. The speech yesterday from Suella was horrific, and that Tory politician being kicked out by the Police for merely disagreeing with her was incredibly worrying to see. The whole unhinged moral panic, just sick of it. Those same people are also likely those who stayed muted after the discovery of the extent of child abuse that occurred by the church. They only "care" when there is some sort of political or personal gain. If they really cared about young children using pubery blockers then maybe they would care to help raise funds for better mental health support and have counselling freely available and regular for those children that need it. I really give up with this country sometimes. This post has been edited by Envoirment: 4th October 2023, 07:04 PM |
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4th October 2023, 07:20 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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The conservatives make me sick.
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4th October 2023, 09:52 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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Being used as a distraction/scapegoat. Rishi expected to announce the scrapping of HS2 from Birmingham to Manchester tomorrow. He was also on the news today saying the #1 reason for NHS waiting lists being at record highs was due to doctors strikes They're going all out to try and blame/use whatever they can as scapegoats for their terrible track record over the last 13 years. I am very much hoping this will massively backfire and the conservatives will get annihilated at the next general election. I feel so sad for Trans women. All these non-issues previously being made into issues for the sake of a political party trying to hide its absolute incompetance. The thing is that although, tragically, people are in general less accepting of trans people since all these ridiculous, relentless scare stories, all the evidence is that it is not a vote winner as trans issues comes very low on people's priorities at election time. Yes it is a distraction/scapegoat but I think, sadly, the main reason the Tories go for trans people is that they are bullies and enjoy causing misery to people's lives. Especially, as despite this ridiculous assertion of an all-powerful trans lobby that unlike, arguably, some other minorities, trans people have absolutely no way of coming back against the aggressors. A statement I hear regularly in recent times is 'The cruelty is the point'. |
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8th October 2023, 07:56 AM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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And the prime minister has literally come out as a huge transphobe in his speech. He makes me sick. No worries, change is coming. Source |
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8th October 2023, 09:39 AM
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It’s so depressing. I have already had to deal with the fall out of Sunak’s speech as there were a couple of transphobic incidents at school at the tail end of last week. Starmer is surely not helping and I’m actually not even sure now that I could even vote Labour just to get the Tories out as I’m not sure my moral compass could allow it.
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9th October 2023, 10:46 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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I understand although Labour overall as a party will be much more sympathetic to LGBT rights and the Tories will get much worse and sadly there isn't any other party that will form government apart from Labour (although I pray and hope for a Lib Dem explosion in the blue wall/South of England and a coalition - know that they excel in by elections though)
Labour have just announced a no exceptions total ban on conversion therapy which the Tories have dropped completely from this Government, purely because Sunak is a nasty, repellant homophobe. |
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10th October 2023, 10:39 AM
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BuzzJack Enthusiast
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It feels like Labour are positioning themselves as a nicer version of the Tories purely to win votes, and they may roll back on a lot of the stuff if they get elected.
Not sure they're necessarily acting as the opposition in that case but I'm not as clued up on this sort of thing. |
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13th October 2023, 09:03 PM
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BuzzJack Climber
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Starmer and many other Labour members are shit, but I hope that the change to a more progressive party allows for more supportive Labour members to make local changes at the very least, here's to hoping we only go up from here
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14th October 2023, 06:39 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Starker is just as horrendous as Sunak I hate him. Miss the days of corbyn leading Labour but the country fell for the ridiculous propaganda about him. Utterly heartbreaking the utter shambles our country is in.
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19th October 2023, 05:54 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Seems Rowling has gone mask off: https://deadline.com/2023/10/jk-rowling-pri...ews-1235577768/
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28th November 2023, 08:40 AM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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The information coming out of the Brianna Ghey trial is truly disgusting. Of course, some journalists are deadnaming in their reports.
It's hard not to feel like this is the result of the constant dehumanisation of trans people, and how transphobic hate has essentially become both socially accepted and mainstream. Trigger warning — this text by one of the boys has really stuck with me, "I want to see if it will scream like a man or a girl" Vile, evil stuff. |
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28th November 2023, 12:51 PM
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Mansonette
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at the bit you spoilered :/
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28th November 2023, 04:25 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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I'm avoiding much of it because it's upsetting, but one element that I did come across -
When they chose to murder her, this was the second time they tried. They previously tried to kill her by poisoning her with an overdose of pills that they managed to slip her. I didn't see how it failed but, jesus christ. They had also planned on murdering a boy they knew and gruesomely, keeping some of the body parts. Truly disgusting. I can't understand what possesses a person to think such things. These people had torture on their minds and the way that Brianna lost her life is just too sad with multiple wounds. |
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28th November 2023, 05:34 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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They seem to be a truly evil couple of children. I'm guessing they just love the idea of killing like a young Fred and Rose West.
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