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Posted by: Regina 12th October 2016, 07:02 PM

Either I'm blind or there's not a thread for this yet. Probably the former.



Ben Afflek, Henry Cavil and Gal Gadot returning as Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman along with Ezra Miller as The Flash, Jason Momoa as Aquaman and Ray Fisher as Cyborg.
Amy Adams and Jeremy Irons are thankfully back as Lois Lane and Alfred and sadly Jesse Eisenberg is back as Lex Luthor.

New cast additions include Amber Heard as Mera, Willem Dafoe af Vulko and JK Simmons as James Gordon.

Amber looks SO good as Mera. *.*



Plot apparantly revolves around the League facing off against Steppenwolf and his army of Parademons.

Posted by: Mack 27th March 2017, 11:56 AM

Has anyone seen the new trailer for this yet?

Looks very good.

Highly anticipated this is.


Posted by: Tinasha 27th March 2017, 12:29 PM

Why isn't Superman in the trailer, we all know he's in it. Looks good though, here for Wonder Woman as usual.

Posted by: Regina 27th March 2017, 12:30 PM

HERE for Lois and Mera tbh



Posted by: Mack 13th June 2017, 08:39 PM

After Wonder Woman, I'm really hyped up for this.


Posted by: Josh! 22nd July 2017, 08:17 PM



Yesss at the underwater Aquaman shots, yesss at Wonder Woman being in two films in one year (*-*), yesss at the Amazons appearing in this (there wasn't enough scenes in Themyscira in WW for me!).

My favourite shots were Flash breaking through the glass and Aquaman jumping in front of and stopping the tsunami wave w00t.gif

Posted by: Mart!n 22nd July 2017, 08:40 PM

After Wonder Woman I'm looking forward to this. I think they are teasing us with Superman, I don't think Superman appears till much later in the movie, I have a funny feeling he appears toward the end which leads into part 2 of Justice League, and after that a new planned Superman movie at some point.

Looking forward to Aquaman movie next year Cyborg (April 2020) follows and the Flash in (Date Unknown) 2020

Posted by: BridgeCow 27th July 2017, 10:50 PM

This looks great and I can't wait but I'm still waiting for that Green Lantern reveal ffs sad.gif

Posted by: Jo...shh! It's coming 9th October 2017, 07:52 PM



Another exciting new trailer!! My favourite parts were Henry Cavill's chest hair ... shirtless Jason Momoa ... the sneak peek at more Aquaman underwater scenes and just Gal Gadot's screen presence in general *-*

Posted by: Klaus 11th November 2017, 10:59 AM

There seems to be so little hype for this, considering what it is. I didn't even realise it was out this month until last week!!

I don't know if it's because people have already seen Batman, Superman & Wonder Woman together in a film (and the focus has only been on them so far), or if Avengers has already soaked up that omg all these heroes in one film excitement or if the whole DC universe thing still feels like a panic cash-in on the MCU.

I've yet to be drawn into the DCEU myself. Man of Steel was too long and moody, I've yet to watch Batman v Superman because it sounds too much of a mess, Ben Affleck should not be Batman and, as I said, it all seems to be panic put together without a proper plan/vision. I did see Suicide Squad and, whilst messy, it was different. Not watched Wonder Woman but I do want to after the great reviews!

Posted by: T Boy 11th November 2017, 11:14 AM

Wonder Woman has been the best so far. Suicide Squad was good if you’re not taking things seriously but pretty shit if you are. You’re right about Man of Steel. Actually didn’t mind Ben Affleck as Batman but the film was just dreadful, people were just doing shit without any real motivation.

There is no hype for this but I’ll probably see it anyway.

Posted by: Mack'sXmasSack 16th November 2017, 11:14 PM

From what I've read this hasn't had great reviews.

Posted by: aDNAn 17th November 2017, 05:15 AM

I actually enjoyed it very much except Aquaman where I couldn't quite exactly understand his role/power etc etc. The only good thing about him was when he got shirtless kink.gif I also enjoyed Ezra Miller's The Flash character, hearing Blackpink in his apartment was a nice surprise laugh.gif

Nothing beat appearance of Amazons though wub.gif

Oh and the Sigrid song at the beginning was sounding so good!!!

Posted by: BridgeCow 18th November 2017, 11:58 AM

This wasn't great, BUT it was really, really fun. The tone was absolutely all over the place though, and it was so obvious that they'd cut a lot out, the plot felt so light and weightless. Steppenwolf was an atrocious villain though, like MCU villain level bad, his motivation was the he just felt like destroying worlds basically? If they'd gone more into the New Gods and explained where he came from he would have felt more real and threatening but I feel like to people that have never seen him before he just looks like some tall guy trying to destroy the world. I will watch it again though, and it definitely was worth watching just cus it was so fun and to see the team on the screen. I'd give it like a 6/10

The second after credits scene tho ohmy.gif

Posted by: Joe. 18th November 2017, 05:40 PM

It was great fun! Critics need to calm down.

Posted by: T Boy 19th November 2017, 10:48 PM

I actually really enjoyed it. Second only to Wonderwoman out of the DC universe films. I agree that Aquaman felt a bit like a spare part.

Posted by: Joe. 20th November 2017, 09:01 AM

I think the critics/people watching DC films need to wake up and realise that The Dark Knight is a once in a lifetime experience and enjoy these films for the silly fun they are.

Posted by: Jonjo 20th November 2017, 11:33 PM

I thought it was better than reviews suggested, but it was still far too all over the place tonally for me to fully get entertained.

I am now 100% sure Zack is the problem. �� It just frustrates me coz somewhere in these movies there is a brilliantly fun and enjoyable Superhero Universe that I can get on board with. I don't mind that it's not as funny or as light as the Marvel films, I just think they're all over the place tonally and story wise and I feel it's all being rushed as opposed to being thought out properly.

Ugh. I hate the whole Marvel vs DC thing btw. So I don't mean to come off as one of them blind Marvel stans haha.

Also Henry Cavill's face was odd throughout and my mate said they had to digitalise his moustache out of the reshoots due to him being contracted to having one in Mission Impossible. laugh.gif

Overall, a decent mess. Much better than the two Superman films for sure.

Posted by: Styles Bilinski 21st November 2017, 06:22 PM

I need to stop bothering with these superhero movies that I generally end up finding uninteresting.

But I will be here for a movie with Barry/Flash as the focus.

Posted by: Houdini 21st November 2017, 07:41 PM

I watched this film today and I thought it was average, it didn't feel like there was enough action in the film and most of the film was the characters just talking to one another without much excitement being generated. There wasn't a single moment during the film where I was on the edge of my seat. In my screen I could see from the corner of my eye due to the bright lights that there were a number of people who kept playing about on their phones rather than watching the film with 100% concentration and fixation which says even more about how the film was lacking in gripping the audience.


It was nice to see the beautiful Gal Gadot on screen though!

Posted by: Jonjo 21st November 2017, 08:05 PM

Argh. People on their phones in a cinema screen is literally my biggest pet peeve!! No matter how uninterested you are in the movie, have some respect for those that actually wanna see it!

Posted by: Houdini 21st November 2017, 08:15 PM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Nov 21 2017, 08:05 PM) *
Argh. People on their phones in a cinema screen is literally my biggest pet peeve!! No matter how uninterested you are in the movie, have some respect for those that actually wanna see it!

Tell me about it! It's so annoying having a bright light flashing in the corner of your eye when you're trying to watch a film at a cinema and today it must have happened about every 10-20 mins. Most of those people had their phones on silent but there was a guy on my left who was speaking on the phone at times and he was main person responsible for the continuous bright light in the corner of my eye drama.gif

Posted by: Popchartfreak 21st November 2017, 09:35 PM

It was OK 7/10 being generous because my childhood/teen hero supergroup are finally on the big screen. Zack Snyder needs to move on though, enough is enough of his fairly friction-based superheroes punching a lot. Nice to see Lois Lane, Spiderman's editor as Commish Gordon, Terminator's dead future-chip man not getting killed for a change. The heroes? Superman and Wonder Woman are so right. Batman does not, and never has, meet challenges blasting superguns left right and centre. You dont need a bat costume for that and that goes against the whole ethos of the character, just SO wrong - and he's been around for 80 years!!

Cyborg, although it's an annoying angry-young-black-man cliche these days, is at least consistent with the comic character from the 80's (though he's a New Teen Titan not a JLA character for me), albeit suped-up. Aquaman looks very right in the part, but the dialogue was awful for the comic book moral cool King Of Atlantis. This was a juvenile, albeit fab suped-up powered, walking cliche from every schlock action movie. The Flash was unrecognisable as Barry Allen. Grant Gustin does a great job on TV, should have just moved him over, instead we have a wise-cracking insecure genius Jewish kid cliche. Not even close to the comic version.

So, room for improvement if they dump Snyder. Not as good as Wonder Woman, better than Supes V Bats.

Posted by: Mack'sXmasSack 21st November 2017, 10:55 PM

It was much better than Batman vs Superman.

I did quite enjoy it. The critics are wrong on this


Overall I thought this was fun and it managed to grab my attention most of the time.

Posted by: Severin 22nd November 2017, 12:50 AM

QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Nov 21 2017, 09:35 PM) *
Batman does not, and never has, meet challenges blasting superguns left right and centre. You dont need a bat costume for that and that goes against the whole ethos of the character, just SO wrong - and he's been around for 80 years!!


I'm not hiding this behind spoilers because it's not plot related but frankly, this is simply not true. Batman started out as a gun-toting vigilante who was not shy of killing with a gun or other methods (neck breaking, even hanging!) and whilst it has become accepted as canon that he doesn't use them a significant number of writers have simultaneously embraced and broken that rule or simply ignored it. Batman: Year Two even has him use the same weapon that killed his parents as he attempts to take down The Reaper. Whether or not you prefer him without guns (and I agree it's the preferred ideology) it's unfair to treat Zack Snyder's take as unique. He's included an in-universe explanation, and the reaction to him using them probably says more about society's opinion on gun usage than Batman and his history (but that's a whole different conversation - not the batman we need but the batman we deserve etc). I don't recall any complaints when the bat-fans accepted favourite screen Batman, Michael Keaton, was burning villains alive, strapping bombs to them or using the 2 machine guns on his Batmobile in the late 80s.


Posted by: Popchartfreak 22nd November 2017, 08:33 AM

QUOTE(Severin @ Nov 22 2017, 12:50 AM) *
I'm not hiding this behind spoilers because it's not plot related but frankly, this is simply not true. Batman started out as a gun-toting vigilante who was not shy of killing with a gun or other methods (neck breaking, even hanging!) and whilst it has become accepted as canon that he doesn't use them a significant number of writers have simultaneously embraced and broken that rule or simply ignored it. Batman: Year Two even has him use the same weapon that killed his parents as he attempts to take down The Reaper. Whether or not you prefer him without guns (and I agree it's the preferred ideology) it's unfair to treat Zack Snyder's take as unique. He's included an in-universe explanation, and the reaction to him using them probably says more about society's opinion on gun usage than Batman and his history (but that's a whole different conversation - not the batman we need but the batman we deserve etc). I don't recall any complaints when the bat-fans accepted favourite screen Batman, Michael Keaton, was burning villains alive, strapping bombs to them or using the 2 machine guns on his Batmobile in the late 80s.


Yeah my fave Batman was Adam West, oops! The classic Batman for me is 90's Batman Adventures animated and the more cerebral detective versions in the comic decades leading up to that. A gun-toting vigilante is just wrong (to me), though you are right it is in tune with current violence-obsessed adult arty male-aimed comics that wouldn't in any way get sold to children in newspaper and supermarket stores the way they were when comics sold multi-millions rather than barely tens of thousands to hardcore fans. So why not have all of the Justice League have massive guns and just shoot everyone super-fast - winner being those with the biggest guns? Because that makes a dull plotline and superheroes just the same as any action movie gun-toting redneck. The attraction of super-heroes is that they have moral codes and have to use their powers in ways to reduce death tolls, moral dilemmas, and plot twists resulting from them. Batman shooting over a huge building to fall on an apartment building is a Batman who err, has very fluid morality if it suits (even if he is distracting flying hellmouth corpses for his buddies) laugh.gif

My criticism of Zack Synder is that his films come over as angst-ridden extended fight-scenes on the whole. The best scenes in this one were the smaller ones, between Lois and Mrs Kent for example. More plot and plotting, better dialogue would help change my mind. As I say a good 7/10 though.

Posted by: Josh-tice League 22nd November 2017, 09:07 PM

Definitely being a bit harshly reviewed by critics in my opinion. Marvel are definitely leagues ahead in quality films at this stage but I still massively enjoyed the action and most of the characters too. Wonder Woman is the real star and she completely draws your attention to her in any group scene but I liked Superman a lot in this too and Aquaman was my favourite new character (The lasso of truth gag was probably my favourite one in the entire film. Mera looked really cool too so I'm excited for his solo film even more now).

The plot is thin and some of the dialogue utterly dreadful ("you smell nice" delivered dead seriously by Lois made me cackle) but there are loads of fun moments and action scenes to make it a decent watch.

Posted by: Severin 23rd November 2017, 06:57 PM

QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Nov 22 2017, 08:33 AM) *
Yeah my fave Batman was Adam West, oops!

Not oops at all. West was great. There's a Batman for everyone. Kevin Conroy is my favourite, followed by Keaton but I do like Affleck's beaten down, world weary take. Being The Bat for over 20 years with little success and seeing your friend and partner murdered by Joker/Harley is enough to send 'good men cruel', so I can live with it.

I think for me I've always been drawn to Batman as this avenging presence that stalks criminals from the darkness and terrifies them so I'm happy enough with him crossing the line occasionally if the story warrants it.
Having said that as a kid West was the only Batman there was (never saw the Lewis Wilson or Robert Lowery takes until much later and Keaton was years away) so he'll always have a special place in my heart. Oh and Julie Newmar too.

Posted by: Popchartfreak 24th November 2017, 07:59 AM

QUOTE(Severin @ Nov 23 2017, 06:57 PM) *
Not oops at all. West was great. There's a Batman for everyone. Kevin Conroy is my favourite, followed by Keaton but I do like Affleck's beaten down, world weary take. Being The Bat for over 20 years with little success and seeing your friend and partner murdered by Joker/Harley is enough to send 'good men cruel', so I can live with it.

I think for me I've always been drawn to Batman as this avenging presence that stalks criminals from the darkness and terrifies them so I'm happy enough with him crossing the line occasionally if the story warrants it.
Having said that as a kid West was the only Batman there was (never saw the Lewis Wilson or Robert Lowery takes until much later and Keaton was years away) so he'll always have a special place in my heart. Oh and Julie Newmar too.


OH yes Kevin Conroy is Fab! Julie Newmar is a childhood goddess too smile.gif I'm still traumatised from the episode when she let go of a rope dangling in a pit (and apparently fell to her death - I was still naive and very young!) laugh.gif

Posted by: DalekTurret32 25th November 2017, 07:30 PM


This was a pretty great film. Not as excellent as Spiderman Homecoming and Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2, but a bit close. My favourite parts were the storytelling involving the Mother Boxes and how the Atlantians, Amazonians and humans hid them from Steppenwolf and the final battle near the end. One small complaint I have was the overuse of slow motion scenes, some of them were pretty awesome though.

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Posted by: Severin 25th November 2017, 08:09 PM

Just watched this today and I thought it was OK. Reviews seem a bit harsh once again.
My main flaws with it are it could probably have benefited from being a tad longer to help develop the newer characters and some of the re-shoots are obvious and a bit jarring at times (and Cavill's moustache CGI wasn't as bad as I'd heard but was a bit weird). Additionally some of the humour is terrible but mainly the witty one liners (which are particularly detrimental to Aquaman). I'd prefer Bruce Wayne's ageing body to have been dealt with in a more thoughtful way and Steppenwolf needs more development - Darkseid gets one flippant mention that most will miss. With all the brief references to Flashpoint, Green Lantern, and tons of clunky exposition regarding Atlantis it just feels like there's too much crammed in for anything to breathe properly.
If Snyder does have a 3 hour cut I'd be intrigued to see it.

Full marks for Deathstroke at the end though. Stay to the end credits have finished in case you weren't aware

Posted by: Severin 26th November 2017, 04:54 PM

https://superherotalksite.wordpress.com/2017/11/19/read-zack-snyders-version-and-all-deleted-scenes-of-justice-league/

Zack Snyder's original planned version
Makes a lot more sense and fills in many of the vague areas nicely

Posted by: Popchartfreak 26th November 2017, 05:28 PM

QUOTE(Severin @ Nov 26 2017, 04:54 PM) *
https://superherotalksite.wordpress.com/2017/11/19/read-zack-snyders-version-and-all-deleted-scenes-of-justice-league/

Zack Snyder's original planned version
Makes a lot more sense and fills in many of the vague areas nicely


Yes, if that's accurate then a great movie has been spoiled as it addresses a lot of my criticisms, adds much more human interest and morality, character backdrop, throws in guilt as a motivating force and no doubt a lot of better dialogue.

Should have given the whole script to Joss Whedon in the first place, nobody does character, plot and humour better....

Posted by: Mart!n 26th November 2017, 06:13 PM

Rumour has it there is a planned solo Batman movie for 2020, Ben Afleck has reported no longer reprising his Batman role in the next Justice League movie, names going forward Jake Gyllenhaal to replace Ben.

Superman: Man of Steel 2 not going to happen for some time yet, DC are just concentrating on the Flashpoint, Cyborg and Aquamen movies, with a possibility Deathstroke movie.

Source: Express

Posted by: aDNAn 26th November 2017, 06:16 PM

Good riddance if Ben leaves Batman...can they just bring Christopher Bale please sad.gif

Posted by: BridgeCow 26th November 2017, 06:45 PM

Jake gyllenhaal as batman tho? Idk how I’d feel about that

Posted by: Severin 26th November 2017, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Nov 26 2017, 05:28 PM) *
Yes, if that's accurate then a great movie has been spoiled as it addresses a lot of my criticisms, adds much more human interest and morality, character backdrop, throws in guilt as a motivating force and no doubt a lot of better dialogue.

Should have given the whole script to Joss Whedon in the first place, nobody does character, plot and humour better....

Not sure about the second point myself. I really don't rate Whedon and his parts are mostly those that moved away from the original treatment towards pithy one-liners

Posted by: Severin 26th November 2017, 09:03 PM

QUOTE(BridgeCow @ Nov 26 2017, 06:45 PM) *
Jake gyllenhaal as batman tho? Idk how I’d feel about that

Gyllenhaal narrowly missed out on being Nolan's Batman and has been a suggestion for some time

Posted by: Severin 26th November 2017, 09:11 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Nov 26 2017, 06:13 PM) *
Rumour has it there is a planned solo Batman movie for 2020, Ben Afleck has reported no longer reprising his Batman role in the next Justice League movie, names going forward Jake Gyllenhaal to replace Ben.

Superman: Man of Steel 2 not going to happen for some time yet, DC are just concentrating on the Flashpoint, Cyborg and Aquamen movies, with a possibility Deathstroke movie.

Source: Express

There's also the Sirens film, Whedon is again slated for Batgirl, there's Suicide Squad 2, Black Adam, Nightwing and the Joker/Harley movie too. All in various states of pre-production

Posted by: Popchartfreak 27th November 2017, 08:07 AM

QUOTE(Severin @ Nov 26 2017, 09:01 PM) *
Not sure about the second point myself. I really don't rate Whedon and his parts are mostly those that moved away from the original treatment towards pithy one-liners


I can't comment on the treatment as I never read Marvel, but his TV series and movies are a cut above - Avengers is juggling a lot of characters, villains and plot structure and is the template on how to do ensemble super-heroes properly. Buffy, Angel, Firefly all have the ability to go from dark drama to smart one-liners, musicals to horror, sitcom to dialogue-free visuals, and to make you genuinely care for characters, both the good ones and the bad ones. In a movie, there isn't that freedom to have such a vast canvas, but the structure is usually flawless (given the studio constraints on what they allow and what the franchise-holders will allow).

Posted by: Tafty 18th March 2021, 07:57 PM

Just saw the Zack Snyder cut of this (I signed up for a 7-day free trial to NOW TV for it)... this was... OK. My full review of it is on my https://letterboxd.com/tafty/film/zack-snyders-justice-league/ and it's a pretty lengthy one so I won't C+P it here, but basically if I had to describe my reaction in gif form...



It's been turned from a 2 out of 5 into a 2.5 out of 5 basically. Had somethings going for it but not enough, imo. Dry and bland throughout and I don't think the main characters have the strongest chemistry.

I loved Cyborg's added arc though. Especially as it really helped flesh out his character & this final battle scene was better. What was with the constant slow motion use though? unsure.gif Really took away from the moments that actually would have benefitted from it more had it not been constantly used.

Posted by: diva thin muffin 19th March 2021, 12:36 AM

So my brother put this on and I couldn't stick it out because I'm not that into DC. It was fun to see though that my sister was in the movie lol. Had forgotten about that after they cut her out of the original version haha.

Posted by: Tafty 19th March 2021, 01:06 AM

Omg! laugh.gif

Who did she play? Was she in Wonder Woman's scene?

Posted by: diva thin muffin 19th March 2021, 10:05 AM

QUOTE(Tafty @ Mar 19 2021, 01:06 AM) *
Omg! laugh.gif

Who did she play? Was she in Wonder Woman's scene?

She was one of the women singing in the scene where Batman goes to find Aquaman in Iceland.



Funny enough she has a connection to Buzzjack prior as someone used one of her songs in BJSC a few years ago even before I joined the contest laugh.gif
Also fun fact the girl on the right side is Ágústa Eva, better known to Eurovision enthusiasts as Silvia Night tongue.gif

Posted by: Tafty 19th March 2021, 03:51 PM

Omg. I completely forgot about the Aquaman in Iceland scenes lmaooo (I just have little to no interest in him for some reason lmao) That's so cool though biggrin.gif

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