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zenon View member profile	17th March 2022, 06:33 PM Post #1
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 9 May 2009 Posts: 3,615 User: 8,809	How would constituency allocation work with Proportional Representation? ie. Tories win 50% of the 650 seats, where would their 325 seats go to? This post has been edited by zenon: 17th March 2022, 06:35 PM


Long Dong Silver View member profile	17th March 2022, 08:12 PM Post #2
Buffy/Charmed Joined: 18 April 2013 Posts: 44,087 User: 18,639	QUOTE(zenon @ Mar 17 2022, 06:33 PM) How would constituency allocation work with Proportional Representation? ie. Labour win 50% of the 650 seats, where would their 325 seats go to? If LABOUR - or another non-vile, evil party, and one that actually commands respect and would be a respectable government- win, you mean? Surely they would go to the areas where they had thr strongest support?


Smint View member profile	17th March 2022, 09:00 PM Post #3
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 21 February 2021 Posts: 3,557 User: 124,514	QUOTE(zenon @ Mar 17 2022, 06:33 PM) How would constituency allocation work with Proportional Representation? ie. Tories win 50% of the 650 seats, where would their 325 seats go to? If we are talking about the Single Transferable Voting used in Scotland/Wales (and was used in the EU elections) believe that there is a mix of constituency MPs like now (but probably larger areas) and list ones (allocated on proportion of the overall vote in a region) - that means there is still a link between constituents and some of the MPs. One downside is that a very unpopular MP can get it on the list system but only on very few occasions do I see evidence of personality playing a big part in electing an MP so I think this system is much fairer


Suedehead2 View member profile	17th March 2022, 09:25 PM Post #4
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 13 April 2007 Posts: 36,673 User: 3,272	There are a lot of different PR systems. STV was not used in the European elections in GB. It is used in elections in Ireland. STV has long been the system preferred by the Lib Dems. The main reason I support it is that it maximises the power of the electorate to decide who their representatives should be. Under any list system (and First Past The Post is effectively a list system with each party nominating a list of one), the parties get to select a large proportion of MPs because of the number of safe seats. Under STV, it is still possible for an idiot to be elected but they are a lot less likely to be re-elected.


Chartfridays View member profile	19th March 2022, 07:56 PM Post #5
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 20 August 2021 Posts: 1,368 User: 135,527	Depends on the system.


Popchartfreak View member profile	20th March 2022, 01:37 PM Post #6
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 18 July 2012 Posts: 22,832 User: 17,376	2019: 43.6% Tory 32.1% Labour 11.5% Libdem 13.2% others so 282 tory seats 208 labour 75 libdem 85 others Ish. under a proper proportional system. So, yes, I'm in very much in favour of anything that stops Tories having too much control...