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 Smile • 5th Album, released on August 14th |
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 28th September 2020, 12:21 AM
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The album is falling fast, i knew it wouldnt be a huge seller but i expected better, similar sales pattern to ellie gouldings recent albbum.
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28th September 2020, 11:36 AM
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lol @ it being outsold by her decade old album within 4 weeks though.
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29th September 2020, 02:32 AM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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A terribly handled campaign when she didn't need 2 (arguably 3!) in a row. (Given how Prism REALLY got a new lease of life post Dark Horse)
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29th September 2020, 08:17 PM
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US chart run:
5-54-104-160- UK chart run: 5-25-54-91-172* *midweek today I know we're not focusing on numbers!!1 but this will surely now go down as one of the BIG defining underperformance eras for a big pop girl. Witness seems like a SUCCESS compared to this. Baffling, I thought she'd capture the streaming world with ease but it seems to have impacted her worse than a lot of other stars around in the past decade. |
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29th September 2020, 08:27 PM
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Yeah this has underperformed even relative to my expectations. I was kinda shocked she only did 6-7k pure sales with those bundles. But her reputation is still better than it was after Witness, even if they’re not obsessed with her music I feel the GP are liking Katy as a person a lot more so in those terms the era has been a success! She’s got a baby and a fiancé, she’ll cope with a worldwide top 5 album 🤷♂️ It’s certainly not up there on the relative flop scale with your Britney Jeans, Lotuses etc
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29th September 2020, 09:10 PM
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Omg 172 in the midweeks so it’s fell like over 80 places and I take it her decade old album is ahead like this isn’t great at all!
She doesn’t deserve to underperform this badly especially with an album that’s actually half decent all the way through. I’m not completely shocked because I mean Katy has struggled with streaming and critics haven’t been kind to her but she actually really went quite big with promo so I don’t think the “maybe people don’t know she has new music out” excuse counts here like she went really went to town with promo and worked her ass off all through the pregnancy / lockdown and she’s barely been out the press through her pregnancy / birth. |
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29th September 2020, 09:14 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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She just promoted it so poorly. Smile and Small Talk are both frankly not good songs, even at her peak they don't sell Katy Perry the brand well, and in 2019-20 especially both were just really tone deaf as promotional tools for the album - the point is meant to be that fans pick up the album based off what they've heard & liked.
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9th October 2020, 04:21 PM
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i mean she literally performed 'daisies' everywhere she could and gave birth on the week of the albums release... promo isn't the issue... people just aren't bothered by KP's music ATM.
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9th October 2020, 10:06 PM
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Did 'Cry about it later' even been sent to the Aussie radio?
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12th October 2020, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(dannjohn @ Oct 9 2020, 05:21 PM)  i mean she literally performed 'daisies' everywhere she could and gave birth on the week of the albums release... promo isn't the issue... people just aren't bothered by KP's music ATM. But after the album was put up for pre order she didn't do a single bit of TV promo, sadly. I know she did a lot of online stuff, but most of that is stuff that only fans that are already invested will see. It would have been nice if she did the proper TV promo circuit like Miley has with her new single. but it is understandable given she was about to pop. |
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12th October 2020, 08:16 AM
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I didn’t realise how poor her US chart run was. EEEK
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22nd October 2020, 11:27 AM
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Julian Nial
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Can she like, randomly push 'Tucked'?
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22nd October 2020, 02:15 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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QUOTE(JulianNial @ Oct 22 2020, 12:27 PM) Can she like, randomly push 'Tucked'? she did make it track 1 on her anticipated EP... |
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23rd October 2020, 05:48 PM
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Julian Nial
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QUOTE(dannjohn @ Oct 22 2020, 03:15 PM) she did make it track 1 on her anticipated EP... What a random release! SOMEONE EXPLAIN!!?! So there's hope? Or what? I'm so confused why is it even a thing? |
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23rd October 2020, 09:02 PM
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Nah it's just a thing labels do, compiling random existing songs into EPs around a 'theme'. Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift are doing a similar thing.
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20th November 2020, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(Andrew. @ Sep 29 2020, 08:27 PM) Yeah this has underperformed even relative to my expectations. I was kinda shocked she only did 6-7k pure sales with those bundles. But her reputation is still better than it was after Witness, even if they’re not obsessed with her music I feel the GP are liking Katy as a person a lot more so in those terms the era has been a success! She’s got a baby and a fiancé, she’ll cope with a worldwide top 5 album 🤷♂️ It’s certainly not up there on the relative flop scale with your Britney Jeans, Lotuses etc Yeah... it’s worse! BJ sold 13k first week and was released in the busiest period of the year, Lotus was released in Q4 too, and I’m certain both spent more than 4 weeks on the Billboard 200! |
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21st November 2020, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(No Sleeep @ Nov 20 2020, 04:57 PM) Yeah... it’s worse! BJ sold 13k first week and was released in the busiest period of the year, Lotus was released in Q4 too, and I’m certain both spent more than 4 weeks on the Billboard 200! You can't compare sales from 2012/13 to now and say because someone sold more in 2012/13 than someone did now they were more successful. If anything 13k is less than 6/7k is in 2020. The second best selling album of the week sold 20k this week which shows how different sales are. BJ and Lotus were #34 and #28 compared to Katy's #5 which says it all. I personally don't see the point in comparing them since they are at very different stages of each others careers btw, but if you are going to then the above applies. |
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22nd November 2020, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(spiceboy @ Nov 21 2020, 12:31 PM) You can't compare sales from 2012/13 to now and say because someone sold more in 2012/13 than someone did now they were more successful. If anything 13k is less than 6/7k is in 2020. The second best selling album of the week sold 20k this week which shows how different sales are. BJ and Lotus were #34 and #28 compared to Katy's #5 which says it all. I personally don't see the point in comparing them since they are at very different stages of each others careers btw, but if you are going to then the above applies. Except they were released during the Christmas period and those sales would’ve been enough for top 5 or even #1 on a very quiet week. Bionic went #1 does that make it a smash hit? And In the Zone only peaked at #13, does that mean it did worse than Smile? And it’s not really a strange comparison. Katy’s been around 12 years now, she’s at the stage Britney and Xtina were in the early 10s. Anyway, Glory outperformed Smile in every sense so I don’t see why the Britney Jean comparison is needed. This post has been edited by No Sleeep: 22nd November 2020, 07:59 PM |
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23rd November 2020, 11:13 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Also there were no bundles for BJ or Lotus... the only thing all 3 singles have in common is their lead singles underperformed and weren't any followup hits from any era... (BJ and Lotus were also ditched pretty much after release week).
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19th December 2020, 11:38 AM
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Julian Nial
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Has she switched labels or something? I notice the latest EP has been released under 'Universal' instead of 'Capitol'.
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