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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ Christmas Chart 2015
Posted by: JosephStyles 26th November 2015, 11:12 PM
I don't think we have a thread for the Christmas Chart discussion yet so here's one! Created in light of the following news:
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/christmas-number-1-2015-to-be-announced-live-on-top-of-the-pops-and-bbc-radio-1__12403/
We're excited to announce that Top of the Pops will return to BBC One for two hour-long programmes dedicated to 2015's festive music battle on Christmas Day and New Year's Eve, and will feature performances from some of pop's brightest stars, including Jess Glynne, OMI, Little Mix, James Bay, Sigma & Rita Ora and Ellie Goulding.
Meanwhile, Greg James will also reveal the news live on BBC Radio 1 in a special three-hour show from 10am-1pm.
It's a historic race this year as it's the first time the top spot has been unveiled on a Friday since moving from its Sunday slot earlier this year, and it's also Greg James's Christmas Number 1 debut.
He said: "It's the biggest chart of the year, and it's worth delaying my entire family's Christmas celebrations for! I love being the Official Chart host, and I’m so excited that I’ll be announcing the Christmas number 1 LIVE on Christmas day."
So the news of the Christmas #1 will be revealed on both Radio 1 and Top of the Pops! Plus it looks like we're getting a FULL TOP 40 RUNDOWN on Christmas Day
Posted by: Dobbo 26th November 2015, 11:19 PM
Streaming is going to be insane this year and with the tracks getting a full week of streams I could feasibly see half the top 10 full of Christmas songs
Posted by: Envoirment 26th November 2015, 11:25 PM
It'll be the most Christmas-song filled chart for quite some time I think! A full week build up and with streaming I'm sure many Christmas songs are going to do great numbers. Hoping Leona's "One More Sleep" will go top 40 this year - with a full week build up to Christmas and her strongest day (Christmas Eve) included. Signs point to her doing much better this year than last with the song on most Christmas spotify playlists and being featured on compilations including Now! Christmas.
Posted by: gooddelta 26th November 2015, 11:30 PM
Wizzard for a top 20 return plz thnks.
I expect to see a straight fight between Louisa Johnson and Justin Bieber for Xmas #1, unless something crawls out of the woodwork.
Posted by: Rob S ~ 26th November 2015, 11:33 PM
Wizzard and Shaky top 20 please or a bit higher and Mariah for top 5!Would also love Andy Williams, East 17, Kelly and Boney M to benefit. Although unlikely with the latter 3 lol.
Posted by: Scherz 26th November 2015, 11:41 PM
I hope 'Underneath The Tree' gets a new peak this year. I'm loving that it's on disc 1 of Now! Christmas.
Posted by: Chez Wombat 26th November 2015, 11:41 PM
Could be a definite viewers increase if Top of the Pops reveals the Christmas number 1 first, even if the midweeks are more accessible these days, round the perfect time of day too with everyone preparing Christmas lunch!
Mariah/The Pogues could actually be top 5 contenders if streaming's high enough, first time since what, 2007? Guess it depends what else is out etc.
Posted by: steve201 27th November 2015, 12:59 AM
I think the biggest streaming day for Xmas songs was actually Christmas Day itself last year as people listen most on the big day itself rather than downloads which people bought in the buildup throughout Nov/Dec?! Not 100% sure but if so the sales will still be split.
Anyway great to see there's a full 3 hr show which as Joseph said will hopefully mean a full top 40! And at a much better time of 10am-1pm. After 1pm they usually begin to start airing recorded shows from the yr past and the Xmas songs come to a halt until next yr.
Posted by: steve201 27th November 2015, 01:00 AM
Lol Leona becoming like Chris few getting that boost on the day before Christmas when there One More Sleep left to go...
Posted by: zenon 27th November 2015, 01:44 AM
Mariah/The Pogues could actually be top 5 contenders if streaming's high enough, first time since what, 2007? Guess it depends what else is out etc.
Radio 1 will reveal it at around 12:55pm as Xmas TOTP doesn't normally start until 2pm.
Posted by: slowdown73 27th November 2015, 07:59 AM
Hopefully not another dreadful X factor song at Xmas number one.
Posted by: Joe. 27th November 2015, 08:48 AM
Yeah, it's going to be 50% Christmas songs I imagine. Driving Home for Christmas and One More Sleep had massive Christmas eve boosts last Christmas eve, but it was wasted due to the fact there were days after the Christmas free-fall before the chart. Mariah and Pogues will probably be top 5 I imagine!
Posted by: Mack 27th November 2015, 09:08 AM
Current Odds (William Hill)
X Factor Winner 4-5f
Eagles of Death Metal 5-1
Justin Bieber 6-1
Star Wars Theme 6-1
Adele 8-1
NHS Choir 12-1
Cilla Black 16-1
John Lennon 16-1
Kylie Minogue/James Corden 20-1
Aurora 33-1
Billy Fury 33-1
Oasis 33-1
One Direction 33-1
Sam Smith 33-1
Shirley Bassey & Blake 33-1
Posted by: steve201 27th November 2015, 10:16 AM
The NHS Choir or Kylie/Cordon would be a good xmas no1!
Some new christmas releases -
Scouting for Girls Christmas In the Air (Tonight)Out Now (Impact Date 18/12/15)
The Killers Dirt Sleding Released 1/12/15
Michael Buble The More You Give (The More You Have) Released 4/12/15
The Darkness I am SantaOut Now
The Courteeners Winter Wonderland Out Now
Posted by: richie 27th November 2015, 11:41 AM
I'll be streaming Slade all day long on Christmas Eve then 
Posted by: Shaky Fan 27th November 2015, 01:38 PM
Shaky has competition from himself this year! To mark the 30th anniversary of the release of Merry Christmas Everyone he has recorded a new version which has been released today. As well as the download there is a CD single available.
Posted by: Cauldron 27th November 2015, 01:54 PM
I was going to join you but isn't there a limit to streams counted per day or something?
Posted by: steve201 27th November 2015, 01:55 PM
Thats right i forgot to add that. Is it the same track tho? Will the CD single be available in HMV or just from his website?
Posted by: steve201 27th November 2015, 01:55 PM
Thats right i forgot to add that. Is it the same track tho? Will the CD single be available in HMV or just from his website?
Posted by: Shaky Fan 27th November 2015, 02:03 PM
Re-recording and brand new catalogue number so sales will be split! The CD is on Amazon and should be on general sale. Proceeds go to the Salvation Army and aparently will be available from their shops too but I'd imagine those won't count towards the chart.
Posted by: Suedehead2 27th November 2015, 03:33 PM
Yes, ten plays per day. That leaves plenty of time to stream Wizzard, The Pogues, Jona Lewie and Sringsteen's Santa Claus Is Coming To Town
Posted by: richie 27th November 2015, 04:53 PM
Heh heh, I'm sure I could listen to Slade, Mike Oldfield, Johnny Mathis, Greg Lake and Jona Lewie ten times a day until Christmas.
The campaign (and the madness) starts here!
Posted by: SmileyKylie 27th November 2015, 05:03 PM
Get that Santa Baby top 40 please for Kylie Xmas.......
just a quick question. How does an album get a stream in the chart? Do you need to listen to whole album all the way through at the same time for it to count?
Posted by: zenon 27th November 2015, 06:07 PM
Only the first ten plays will count however.
Posted by: Bjork 27th November 2015, 08:33 PM
this year is totally open
surprised there's no charity record or some campaign to get a random song to #1
Im kinda thinking that if Louisa wins XF she will be #1 for 3 weeks so will be Xmas #1
Posted by: Shaky Fan 28th November 2015, 01:57 PM
Just been reading the chart rules on the OCC site and something caught my eye:
4.1
Criteria for Combining Transactions
a Sales of different formats and variants of a single are combined for chart purposes where each format contains the featured song(s), and not the featured song(s) from any other chart single.
b For chart purposes, the sales of different formats are combined where they can reasonably be held to be variants or alternative formats of the same piece of product.
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In addition to 3 physical formats and 3 digital bundles, an unlimited number of digital variants of the featured song may be combined for a chart position.
Note: The featured song across all formats of a single need not be identical for their transactions to be combined, but should be substantially the same - that is, an identical OR extended OR remixed OR live OR alternative version of the basic song
Would this mean that sales of the new version - Echoes of Merry Christmas - could be combined with sales of the original version?
Posted by: Danvember 28th November 2015, 04:24 PM
hopefully they are combined, as more people are gonna buy and stream the original I imagine so with the new version it could peak higher this year than it normally would.
Posted by: steve201 28th November 2015, 04:38 PM
Yeh I've no doubt radio 2 will playlist it in December tho!
Posted by: gooddelta 5th December 2015, 11:36 PM
Has the Xmas No.1 started to fade into irrelevance due to the X Factor's dominance of the last decade? Nobody seems to be releasing anything as a realistic competior to X Factor and the media don't seem that bothered about the race this year.
With X Factor releasing the week before the Xmas chart this year it would have been the perfect opportunity for a few major contenders to have a real battle, but there's nothing... 
Posted by: girl_from_oz 6th December 2015, 12:05 AM
I wonder if the facebook campaign to get the Star Wars Theme to number one will inform people they have to stream the track a lot as well
Posted by: gooddelta 6th December 2015, 12:13 AM
Any sales-based competitor will need to overcome a streaming deficit worth 50-60k going by recent figures. I wonder how quickly the X Factor winner will pick up streams? If it sells something like 70k downloads and 15k streams in its second week (I can't imagine it's going to be a huge streaming smash) then something like Bieber could edge it out with 60k streams and 40k downloads.
Posted by: Adam's Satsuma🙁 6th December 2015, 11:36 AM
I expect the X Factor Winner will be #1 this year. I'm not keen on the Eagles song at all so I don't want that to be #1. Getting the Star Wars theme to the top would be rather amusing 
but having Adele get it would be a bit boring IMO.
Aurora's song would be a great #1 though!
Posted by: ChristmasRobin 6th December 2015, 11:38 AM
Grace would be Christmas #1 in an ideal world 
Posted by: Dancember 6th December 2015, 12:08 PM
If I were to put money on anyone right now it would be Justin Bieber. His streaming is insane so he should easily overtake the X Factor winner in her second week
Posted by: paulgilb 6th December 2015, 12:10 PM
That plus the fact there is less interest in the chart in general nowadays (due to it being slower and there being a lot more music available). Also, the period after Christmas is now the biggest sales period of the year (due to the gift-card effect), whereas pre-downloads the biggest sales period was the run-up to Christmas (and thus there was more interest).
Posted by: gooddelta 6th December 2015, 12:19 PM
6/1 does seem like a good price for Bieber.
I have no idea how many sales the X factor winner will open with, ratings are down so much this year but Louisa does seem very popular.
Posted by: Xmas Tree Boy 6th December 2015, 01:09 PM
All I know is that it looks like it will be incredibly BORING at the minute. 2003 is such a distant memory.
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