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3rd December 2020, 05:59 PM
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Radical Pink Troll
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3rd December 2020, 10:21 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Wonder if in a year or two there'll just be one combined flu/Covid vaccine each winter.
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3rd December 2020, 10:58 PM
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They're still at it with this jingoistic nonsense. Disgraced former Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson has claimed that the UK was first to auhorise the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine because we are "far better than any other country". Rational people might think that the fact that we shared data with the EU helped as well as the fact that, unlike the EU, we didn't bother asking for any additional data. They might also think that rather more of the credit should go to the Turkish/German and Austrian scientists who, with the help of EU funding, actually developed it. Gavin Williamson, the man that is proof we are in fact not far better than anyone else - as HIGNFY said on twitter (paraphrased) Wasnt EU cash though as far as I was aware. All I had heard was that it was straight from the coffers of Berlin, which explains why of the 300m doses the EU purchased, 100m are bound for Germany |
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3rd December 2020, 11:36 PM
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They're still at it with this jingoistic nonsense. Disgraced former Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson has claimed that the UK was first to auhorise the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine because we are "far better than any other country". Rational people might think that the fact that we shared data with the EU helped as well as the fact that, unlike the EU, we didn't bother asking for any additional data. They might also think that rather more of the credit should go to the Turkish/German and Austrian scientists who, with the help of EU funding, actually developed it. That was a nauseating watch especially when I’m not British! |
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3rd December 2020, 11:37 PM
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4th December 2020, 06:31 AM
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4th December 2020, 11:20 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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I see I thought it woulda been too hard to organise that. Hope it hasn’t spread but as you say the siblings can get it anyway....
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4th December 2020, 04:32 PM
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Wales sounds to be in a bad way with First Minister saying hospitals are full with Covid victims and ambulance services so stretched that they can't get to heart attacks, strokes etc.
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4th December 2020, 05:23 PM
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Not surprising. And he’s picking in hospitality which doesn’t seem to be causing the spread.
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4th December 2020, 05:26 PM
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Boris and Hancock should send more help then to Wales in the form of nurses, beds and ambulances and paramedics then. Take them temporarily from areas that aren't overstretched.
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4th December 2020, 08:12 PM
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Say that hiss with your chest, and...
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As ever, the government hasn't exactly helped itself. There is a natural sense of unease about a vaccine that has been approved in record time. That unease can only be compounded when the government tries to claim some of the credit, fuelling suspicions that the regulator has been put under pressure by a government not exactly renowned for its honesty. Just in case they hadn't bungled it enough, we then get Johnson making ridiculous claims such as saying that we now have "the sure and certain knowledge that we will succeed" in getting life back to normal by the spring. Why does he keep making these promises that cannot possibly be delivered? The government's (highly ambitious) target is to get everyone over 50, as well as vulnerable people under 50, vaccinated by Easter. That still leaves millions more to do. It suggests then that once enough people over 50 and vulnerable people are vaccinated then they will may open up the economy, particularly hospitality, back to normal again. |
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4th December 2020, 10:14 PM
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5th December 2020, 11:08 PM
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We went down yesterday to the undertakers where our daughter's ashes are kept. A couple came over to talk to us and sit down but kept their distance. Their 28 year-old daughter died from Covid last week. Her mum was crying her eyes out. She just went to the hospital for a blood test and she must have caught it there despite wearing a mask. They are so upset but still had time to ask about our daughter. They say their daughter had everything, good job, money, long-term fiance, own house and just gone like that at just 28 within days. So sad.
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6th December 2020, 01:50 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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It’s an absolute lottery no matter what age you are or whether you have underlying health issues
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6th December 2020, 08:52 AM
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6th December 2020, 09:51 AM
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It wouldn’t help if it was opened again though, they are non essential services But he hasn’t closed hospitality. He has banned sale of alcohol and opening after 6pm. Many pubs have had to close because they can’t afford to open under these conditions. They also don’t qualify for furlough under these conditions. A bit grim 3 weeks before Christmas. |
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6th December 2020, 12:05 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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But he hasn’t closed hospitality. He has banned sale of alcohol and opening after 6pm. Many pubs have had to close because they can’t afford to open under these conditions. They also don’t qualify for furlough under these conditions. A bit grim 3 weeks before Christmas. I didn’t realise that, seems a bit pointless then |
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6th December 2020, 02:55 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Wonder if in a year or two there'll just be one combined flu/Covid vaccine each winter. According to one expert quoted in the Observer today, that is a distinct possibility. He seems very excited about the possibilities offered by the technology behind the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. |
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6th December 2020, 03:24 PM
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Radical Pink Troll
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One of our teachers has tested positive following Year 10 going off for isolation. I’m getting quite anxious.
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6th December 2020, 04:32 PM
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