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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ Will Luis Fonsi be a one-hit wonder?

Posted by: cqmerqn 16th September 2017, 10:45 AM

Pretty self explanatory. Will he have another hit?

Posted by: M4NG0 16th September 2017, 10:46 AM

You could have done this as a poll. My answer is yes he'll be a one hit wonder for sure.

Posted by: *Tim 16th September 2017, 10:48 AM

He will be a onehit wonder. The latin craze lasted 1 summer and will die down very soon

Posted by: Brett-Butler 16th September 2017, 10:49 AM

Yes. Then again, I thought that Daddy Yankee would be a one-hit wonder as well, and never thought he'd feature on the biggest song of 2017 so far.

Posted by: Big Hiss Machine 16th September 2017, 10:52 AM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Sep 16 2017, 11:48 AM) *
The latin craze lasted 1 summer and will die down very soon


Not so sure. New chart trends seem to last longer than one summer, like tropical house/tropical pop/future bass.

Posted by: cqmerqn 16th September 2017, 10:53 AM

QUOTE(Big Hiss Machine @ Sep 16 2017, 11:52 AM) *
Not so sure. New chart trends seem to last longer than one summer, like tropical house/tropical pop/future bass.

Latin music can only go so far though..

Posted by: Dobbo 16th September 2017, 11:04 AM

I would have said yes but as was mentioned above I'm sure everyone would have said the same about Daddy Yankee in 2005 so it just proves you can never write anyone off!

Posted by: ⓐⓦⓐⓡ^ 16th September 2017, 11:14 AM

I imagine he will feature on a future Drake album somehow.

Posted by: Rob Spears 16th September 2017, 11:16 AM

I don't know her.

Posted by: Bjork 16th September 2017, 11:58 AM

100% sure
One hit wonder

Posted by: danG 16th September 2017, 12:15 PM

Added a poll happy.gif

I think he will for the time being at least, there's just no following up a mega hit like 'Despacito' without disappointing most of the music consuming population. Not to mention the Latin craze will probably be over in about 6 months.

Posted by: BridgeCow 16th September 2017, 12:32 PM

I'd say he would be, but I can totally him cropping up again in a few years or so on a feature or something

Posted by: *Tim 16th September 2017, 12:41 PM

QUOTE(Big Hiss Machine @ Sep 16 2017, 10:52 AM) *
Not so sure. New chart trends seem to last longer than one summer, like tropical house/tropical pop/future bass.

Those are different though. Latin feels limited to the summer when everyone goes to the south.

It was the same as when songs like Ai Se Eu Te Pego were huge in Europe for 1 summer, only to be forgotten about 3 weeks later

Posted by: Big Hiss Machine 16th September 2017, 12:52 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Sep 16 2017, 01:41 PM) *
Those are different though. Latin feels limited to the summer when everyone goes to the south.

It was the same as when songs like Ai Se Eu Te Pego were huge in Europe for 1 summer, only to be forgotten about 3 weeks later


But then tropical house still was popular in the winter despite being 'tropical' sounding!

Posted by: cqmerqn 16th September 2017, 02:12 PM

QUOTE(Big Hiss Machine @ Sep 16 2017, 01:52 PM) *
But then tropical house still was popular in the winter despite being 'tropical' sounding!

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Posted by: *Tim 16th September 2017, 02:34 PM

QUOTE(Big Hiss Machine @ Sep 16 2017, 12:52 PM) *
But then tropical house still was popular in the winter despite being 'tropical' sounding!

You are completely missing the point. Tropical house cannot really be compared to Latin music. Tropical house is more global, is played in clubs throughout the year and played by radio throughout the year.

Latin music often has the "take me back to summer of ...." feel to it and therefor is more limited to the summer than tropical house. On the same way you hardly see ballads being extremely succesful during summer

Posted by: Rush 16th September 2017, 02:55 PM

I don't view the current wave of Latin songs as a trend like tropical house. From my perspective, it's the result of YouTube and Spotify growing so much in Latin countries in the last few years, that Latin songs are now racking up numbers on par with international English-language hits. That on its own means labels surely have more interest in investing in Latin music now, but particularly crucial is Spotify, as the Global Top 50 and global nature of playlists mean localised success inevitably rubs off internationally. For context, before October 2016, Latin songs making the Global Top 50 was limited to about 2 per year; then, Zion & Lennox's 'Otra Vez' hit the top 50, and by December there were 5 Latin songs top 50 at once, and that's pretty much been the norm since. It might subside a little as genre trends change, but I'm sure Latin music will always be popular in Latin countries, which means it'll keep spreading worldwide with the platform now available. Granted, the UK has shown no interest in non-remixed huge hits like 'Felices los 4' and 'Me Rehúso', but there will surely always be crossover-friendly hits like 'Mi Gente' every now and then, if not continued remixes too. I think Latin songs now are more comparable to broad genres like hip hop and dance music, that started as 'trends' but have remained constants in the charts for decades.

That's a bit of a tangent away from this thread's actual question. Luis Fonsi has had a long career with plenty of Latin hits, but I think his success was mostly in the '00s, not recent years, so that doesn't guarantee much. But with a hit as big as 'Despacito', it's hard not to get any attention with a follow-up. Maybe if he'd already released an album while 'Despacito' was riding high, cancelling the follow-up launch opportunity (like 'Uptown Funk' or 'Somebody That I Used To Know'), or if he was a novelty artist or something. But I think he's got a good shot at another chart hit.

Until 10 years from now when everything but 'Despacito' is forgotten anyway, the same way so many artists considered one hit wonders actually had several hits (eg MC Hammer).

Posted by: THEO. 16th September 2017, 03:27 PM

QUOTE(Rush @ Sep 16 2017, 03:55 PM) *
That's a bit of a tangent away from this thread's actual question. Luis Fonsi has had a long career with plenty of Latin hits, but I think his success was mostly in the '00s, not recent years, so that doesn't guarantee much. But with a hit as big as 'Despacito', it's hard not to get any attention with a follow-up. Maybe if he'd already released an album while 'Despacito' was riding high, cancelling the follow-up launch opportunity (like 'Uptown Funk' or 'Somebody That I Used To Know'), or if he was a novelty artist or something. But I think he's got a good shot at another chart hit.

I agree with everything you said, particularly this. I imagine the follow up will have some sort of success (both here and in the US) just because "Despacito" has been as big as it has worldwide, a bit like Psy with "Gangnam Style", followed up by "Gentleman" - everyone was so eager to hear the follow up, but ultimately, it was shite and not a patch on the first WW hit, so it peaked and dropped.

Posted by: marcin 16th September 2017, 11:13 PM

He already has a lot of hits so no chance of being a one-hit wonder...

Posted by: JosephGutierrez 16th September 2017, 11:14 PM

QUOTE(marcin @ Sep 17 2017, 12:13 AM) *
He already has a lot of hits so no chance of being a one-hit wonder...

This is quite clearly about the UK tongue.gif

Posted by: Euphorique 17th September 2017, 12:25 AM

Yes, unless he gets featured on someone else's track

Posted by: André 17th September 2017, 01:27 AM

I mean, Daddy Yankee got another huge hit so why wouldn't he be able to get one too?

QUOTE(*Tim @ Sep 16 2017, 11:34 AM) *
You are completely missing the point. Tropical house cannot really be compared to Latin music. Tropical house is more global, is played in clubs throughout the year and played by radio throughout the year.

Latin music often has the "take me back to summer of ...." feel to it and therefor is more limited to the summer than tropical house. On the same way you hardly see ballads being extremely succesful during summer

In a lot of places around the world, including several major European countries, Latino music is played throughout the year in radio and clubs. "Chantaje" was huge during the winter and "SUBEME LA RADIO" was also a winter hit in most of Europe. Plus, Latin music is the most streamed genre on Youtube all year long and is growing nonstop on Spotify so it'll surely get a huge push in the streaming era. The UK is not that isolated from worldwide trends.

Also, the UK is super influenced by the USA and Latino music is huge there and, with the streaming boost, it'll be getting more pervasive.

QUOTE(Rush @ Sep 16 2017, 11:55 AM) *
I don't view the current wave of Latin songs as a trend like tropical house. From my perspective, it's the result of YouTube and Spotify growing so much in Latin countries in the last few years, that Latin songs are now racking up numbers on par with international English-language hits. That on its own means labels surely have more interest in investing in Latin music now, but particularly crucial is Spotify, as the Global Top 50 and global nature of playlists mean localised success inevitably rubs off internationally. For context, before October 2016, Latin songs making the Global Top 50 was limited to about 2 per year; then, Zion & Lennox's 'Otra Vez' hit the top 50, and by December there were 5 Latin songs top 50 at once, and that's pretty much been the norm since. It might subside a little as genre trends change, but I'm sure Latin music will always be popular in Latin countries, which means it'll keep spreading worldwide with the platform now available. Granted, the UK has shown no interest in non-remixed huge hits like 'Felices los 4' and 'Me Rehúso', but there will surely always be crossover-friendly hits like 'Mi Gente' every now and then, if not continued remixes too. I think Latin songs now are more comparable to broad genres like hip hop and dance music, that started as 'trends' but have remained constants in the charts for decades.

Exactly.

Plus, Spotify is still growing in Latin America so the invasion of Latino songs in the Global Top 50 will keep getting bigger and bigger. Just take a look at the YouTube Music Charts (https://artists.youtube.com/charts/tracks) -- where 70% of the top 10 and 50% of the overall top 50 is Latin music -- to a peek of what's to come in the Spotify Global Top 50.

Posted by: ThePensmith 18th September 2017, 04:03 PM

History has dictated that few, if any, Latino artists have found sustained success in this country beyond their first big hit - hello to you Ricky Martin and Lou Bega in 1999. J.Lo and Enrique from that same Latino explosion from the same year are the exceptions to that rule but even he had trouble getting off the ground after 'Bailamos'. Were it not for 'Hero' I doubt he'd have broken through with the subsequent success he enjoyed.

Posted by: Dark Horse 18th September 2017, 05:46 PM

probably yes, but who knows? he might surprise us by featuring Rihanna like DJ Khaled did after his feature with Bieber...

Posted by: T Boy 18th September 2017, 06:04 PM

Erm, his popularity here may have been fleeting, but in no way was Ricky Martin a one hit wonder...

Posted by: ThePensmith 18th September 2017, 06:22 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Sep 18 2017, 07:04 PM) *
Erm, his popularity here may have been fleeting, but in no way was Ricky Martin a one hit wonder...


OK. I will give him 'She Bangs' but how many of his singles outside of that and 'Livin La Vida Loca' can Joe Public name?

Posted by: André 18th September 2017, 06:38 PM

QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Sep 18 2017, 03:22 PM) *
OK. I will give him 'She Bangs' but how many of his singles outside of that and 'Livin La Vida Loca' can Joe Public name?

I mean, he had two platinum albums and still has public recognition (most people know who Ricky Martin is and what he looks like) so I would not exactly compare him to Lou Bega. Also, "Maria" and "The Cup of Life" were both big too.

Posted by: GerryJ 19th September 2017, 03:48 PM

I mostly concur with Rush and THEO. It would be surprising if Luis Fonsi isn't able to ride Despacito's wave into one or two more chart hits before the year is up (anywhere from low top ten to mid 20s maybe?), but in the long term, I doubt if he'll achieve anything even close to this scale.

Posted by: danG 19th September 2017, 04:04 PM

Luis Fonsi's got a follow-up now, though technically speaking it's not his song:



I can't see this becoming a UK hit.

Posted by: Rush 19th September 2017, 04:33 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Sep 20 2017, 02:04 AM) *
Luis Fonsi's got a follow-up now, though technically speaking it's not his song:

I can't see this becoming a UK hit.
Hadn't heard of this before, but if you're not aware/for further information it's just a remix of Charly Black's existing 'Gyal You A Party Animal', which was a hit in Latin America in 2015-16. Funnily, it was previously remixed with Daddy Yankee last year (which also did well) laugh.gif Can't wait for a Justin Bieber remix to complete the trio next year.

Posted by: burbe 19th September 2017, 08:06 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Sep 19 2017, 05:04 PM) *
Luis Fonsi's got a follow-up now, though technically speaking it's not his song:



I can't see this becoming a UK hit.


This is like the third or fourth release of this song :') The original was an absolute banger and they need to leave it alone!!

Posted by: N-S 19th September 2017, 09:29 PM

This was the first Luis Fonsi I've ever heard, back in 2008.



P.S. A worldwide crossover hit for David Bisbal is long overdue.

Posted by: Dark Horse 19th September 2017, 09:49 PM

QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Sep 18 2017, 07:03 PM) *
History has dictated that few, if any, Latino artists have found sustained success in this country beyond their first big hit - hello to you Ricky Martin and Lou Bega in 1999. J.Lo and Enrique from that same Latino explosion from the same year are the exceptions to that rule but even he had trouble getting off the ground after 'Bailamos'. Were it not for 'Hero' I doubt he'd have broken through with the subsequent success he enjoyed.


Are you seriously comparing International pop star Ricky Martin to one hit wonder Lou Bega? Ricky Martin has had tons of hits worldwide and is still scoring hits to this day, one of his latest hits Vente Pa Ca recently reached 1.2 Billion views on YouTube, and some of his recent hits have reached 800 million views worldwide... I don't see Lou Bega achieveing any of this now... not to mention Ricky Martin has scored 8 top 20 hits in the UK so there's nothing to compare..

Posted by: N-S 20th September 2017, 10:54 AM

QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Sep 18 2017, 05:03 PM) *
History has dictated that few, if any, Latino artists have found sustained success in this country beyond their first big hit - hello to you Ricky Martin and Lou Bega in 1999.


Lou Bega wasn't/isn't Latino.

Posted by: caseclosed 20th September 2017, 11:24 AM

Absolutely.

Posted by: rafik4u 20th September 2017, 11:43 AM

In the UK most likely yes unless he is featured somewhere.

He has a long career of hits in the Spanish speaking world though, so not like he needs another crossover after Despacito.

Posted by: Dircadirca 20th September 2017, 12:35 PM

QUOTE(rafik4u @ Sep 20 2017, 07:43 PM) *
In the UK most likely yes unless he is featured somewhere.

He has a long career of hits in the Spanish speaking world though, so not like he needs another crossover after Despacito.

He probably doesn't need those hits either anymore thanks to Despacito laugh.gif

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