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Posted by: poppet15 Jun 28 2016, 01:44 PM

After the dismal display by England in Euro 2016 & the demise of Roy Hodgson who do you think should now get the job of Manager / Coach?

I think it should be Alan Shearer

Posted by: richie Jun 28 2016, 02:04 PM

I don't see any issue with Gareth Southgate as long as the gutterpress leave him alone. Which they won't.

Posted by: Dobbo Jun 28 2016, 03:13 PM

Claudio Ranieri.

Posted by: Mart!n Jun 28 2016, 03:46 PM

Alan Shearer are you kidding me

It probably be Gareth Southgate, Tim Sherwood or Gary Neville. Apparently Glenn Hoddle is second favourite.

Another name was put in the pot Arsene Wenger, but I don't think he wll take it on

Posted by: Soy Adrián Jun 28 2016, 03:47 PM

Hands off Slaven Bilic.

Otherwise... Hiddink?

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Jun 28 2016, 04:46 PM) *
Alan Shearer are you kidding me

It probably be Gareth Southgate, Tim Sherwood or Gary Neville.

Another name was put in the pot Arsene Wenger, but I don't think he wll take it on

Tactics Tim is nearly as bad an idea as Glenn Hoddle.

Posted by: Rooney Jun 28 2016, 05:04 PM

It doesn't matter who the manager is, the FA need to implement an idea and a strategy. Either play long ball, pressing, possession etc. and go for that so that we have the structure in place. We have a real lack of quality coaches in England, and the next manager should not be English.

Pellergini would be a great shout for me.

Posted by: richie Jun 29 2016, 07:29 AM

I love the way every time England sack a coach it flips between the next one "needing to be English" or "needing to be foreign"!

There tend to be far too many individuals who look better than they are due to playing with genuinely world class colleagues at club level. Don't worry about the coach's club career - interview properly to find somebody who can recognise what elements are required from a team - and perhaps call training sessions more frequently if they can (and that will often be down to the clubs).

One thing that may come from this is that some players may genuinely have to decide between club and country. Or money. Get the right people picked and you may start to see team performances. Like Iceland.

Posted by: Soy Adrián Jun 29 2016, 08:47 AM

Agreed that there's far deeper structural problems, but we could have still done a decent job in that tournament with someone other than Hodgson at the helm.

Heard talk of Southgate taking it for a year until Wenger's contract is up. Not the worst idea.

Posted by: Mack Jun 29 2016, 07:04 PM

Odds on England's next manager:


Gareth Southgate 7-4f
Glenn Hoddle 5-1
Jurgen Klinsmann 6-1
Sam Allardyce 14-1
Eddie Howe 14-1
Alan Pardew 14-1
Alan Shearer 14-1
Harry Redknapp 14-1
Arsene Wenger 16-1
Slaven Bilic 16-1
Gary Neville 20-1
Guus Hiddink 25-1
Manuel Pelligrini 25-1
Rafa Bentiez 25-1
Laurent Blanc 25-1
Brendan Rodgers 25-1
Claudio Ranieri 25-1
David Moyes 33-1
Steve Bruce 33-1
Mark Hughes 33-1

Posted by: Mart!n Jun 29 2016, 07:13 PM

Not sure if Arsene Wenger would take it when his contract runs out next year, it depends how well Arsenal do next season, they might extend his contract.

Posted by: Rooney Jun 29 2016, 07:51 PM

What an uninspiring choice of managers.

Posted by: Mack Jun 29 2016, 08:02 PM

Who would have the bottle to take this position?


Posted by: richie Jun 30 2016, 07:01 AM

I'm a bit worried Big Sam will still fancy it. That said, the way Sunderland start every season, he'd be gone by October anyway.

Posted by: Rooney Jul 13 2016, 11:05 AM

Allardyce is talks with the FA.

Oh England, when will you learn.

Posted by: Suedehead2 Jul 13 2016, 02:04 PM

As long as they are talking to him about nothing more important than pie consultant for Wembley.

Posted by: Soy Adrián Jul 13 2016, 02:56 PM

He would have been good ten years ago, but the game has moved on. Back then he was taking decent Premier League teams and pushing them into Europe - now he's taking crap teams and making them decent. He wouldn't be a disaster, but we could do a lot better. As a West Ham fan, the fact that Bilic's name was being thrown around makes me feel underwhelmed by Big Sam.

Posted by: Mack Jul 13 2016, 06:50 PM

You're ten years too late Big Sam.


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I'm a bit worried Big Sam will still fancy it. That said, the way Sunderland start every season, he'd be gone by October anyway.


Your worries could be right there, richie.

If it's an final option, then I suppose we'll take Big Sam.

Posted by: Mack Jul 19 2016, 08:02 PM

Steve Bruce and Sam Allarydce have both had interviews with the FA yesterday apparently.


Posted by: meme Jul 20 2016, 06:42 AM

We'll need some new doors either way.

Posted by: Severin Jul 20 2016, 09:06 AM

Personally Klinsmann would be my choice. Knows the English game, knows how to win, has a proven record as manager and maybe, just maybe, we might learn how to take a penalty.

Posted by: Ðøßßø Jul 20 2016, 05:47 PM

So it's been all but confirmed it's Allardyce.

Probably the best current English manager & the board said they wanted an English manager so... not too many complaints from me.

Posted by: Suedehead2 Jul 20 2016, 06:07 PM

I suppose I shall have to be prepared to be bored rigid watching England games. I just hope the FA get rid of him quickly if he proves to be as baad as I fear.

Posted by: Hazza Chapman Jul 20 2016, 06:07 PM

If i remember correctly Sam Allardyce nearly had a heart attack some years ago, let's hope this job doesn't tip him over the edge. What next for Sunderland?

Posted by: RobinJuanPersie Jul 20 2016, 06:15 PM

I'm very happy with Allardyce. For me, he's quite easily the best choice out of the realistic candidates.
If we could have had anymore, I would have liked to see either Dyche or Howe (or both like Iceland biggrin.gif) but I can certainly see why neither of them would want the job, especially this early in their careers.

Posted by: RabbitFurCoat Jul 20 2016, 06:27 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jul 20 2016, 07:07 PM) *
I suppose I shall have to be prepared to be bored rigid watching England games. I just hope the FA get rid of him quickly if he proves to be as baad as I fear.

Because we've been so exciting for the past decade....


More than happy with Allardyce, mainly because it means it's not a whole host of people. Not Pardew. Not Sherwood. Not Bruce. Not Southgate, or Hoddle, Shearer, Neville...

Even the foreign coaches that are realistic are mainly dull and uninspiring. Hiddink? Maybe I guess. Wenger? Just the manager we need to stop England bottling it on the big occasion. Klinnsmann? I know very little but I'm always wary of any manager where the vast majority of fans of they're current team are hoping someone else appoints him when linked. Only person I think who may have been a semi-realistic candidate that I might have got properly excited about is Benitez...


Posted by: Mack Jul 20 2016, 06:38 PM

I like to see him not being afraid to pick players who are in form from unfashionable clubs and not rely on just supposedly star names. This could be dull. Not expecting much. 1-0 all the way probably.


Posted by: RabbitFurCoat Jul 20 2016, 06:42 PM

I think he's more likely to pick someone like Antonio or Dann, but also quite likely to keep Rooney in the team but then I think the person who decides when Wayne Rooney stops being an automatic starter is Wayne Rooney, which is a shame, and he won't play him in midfield!

Posted by: Mart!n Jul 20 2016, 06:53 PM

Guess I have to live with that, I wish Eddie Howe took the job though. Just have to see what he is going to bring to the table.

Posted by: Mack Jul 20 2016, 07:04 PM

I would like to see Antonio, Noble or Carroll get picked if they continue their form from last season. It could have been worth a shot at Eddie Howe been given the job see what would happened there.


Posted by: Suedehead2 Jul 20 2016, 07:14 PM

I think Eddie Howe is a definite contender for the England job at some point, but I would prefer to see him gain more experience before he gets it. Even if he doesn't get it for another five years, he would still only be 43. That would still give him a decent chance of bucking the trend and being a long-term manager.

Posted by: Rooney Jul 20 2016, 09:22 PM

I'm coming round to the idea more of him.

I think he'll make us less of a primmadonna team and unlike Hodgson, I think he actually has some balls and his methodology and thinking is probably more in like with 2016 rather than 10 years out of date. We'll see though.. if anything it highlights the lack of good quality English coaches out there.

Posted by: meme Jul 21 2016, 06:43 AM

Yeah I don't think we should jump to conclusions - if we manage to keep up a solid record as expected by the end of 2016 then I'll be happy.

Posted by: Soy Adrián Jul 21 2016, 07:54 AM

I'm also coming round to the idea of him. He's not Pulis, his teams will play some quite decent stuff if he's given full control over tactics. I do feel a bit for Sunderland though!

Posted by: richie Jul 25 2016, 07:53 AM

I think a little compensation for the uncertainty at Sunderland would go a long way. But really, the best way to repay the players at the Stadium of Light is for the England manager to occasionally watch the likes of Lee Cattermole who should have played for England by now (and would have if he'd been signed by Liverpool or Spurs) - maybe Big Sam will do that.

Anyway, very happy with David Moyes and hopefully there's time to get a few new signings in and bedded in before the new season starts.

Posted by: Mack Oct 11 2016, 10:33 PM

QUOTE(Rooney @ Jul 13 2016, 12:05 PM) *
Allardyce is talks with the FA.

Oh England, when will you learn.

They clearly didn't did they?


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