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Posted by: JosephSprayberry 10th February 2018, 01:02 PM

Welcome to the "off-topic" thread for the UK Charts forum. You can use this topic for any discussions about certain artists that don't fit any other topic in either UK Charts or any other section of the forum. This includes any rants or negativity you wish to share about artists you don't like...!

Remember to keep everything sensible and mature. If you're posting something negative, back up your statement with a reason so people can have a friendly debate! No personal attacks will be allowed and any arguments will see this thread closed.

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 17th February 2018, 05:52 PM

Awful song - do not see the appeal

FAR more talented/ better looking/ better imaged/ better singers/ better rappers out there

Posted by: 777666jason 17th February 2018, 06:12 PM

Cmon ed drop a suprise release Adele anything gotta be an improvement on that mess ofdrakes at least One dance was tolerable

Posted by: ML Hammer95 17th February 2018, 06:14 PM

What has looks got to do with anything?

Posted by: Midge 17th February 2018, 06:59 PM

Have to agree...

Posted by: cqmerqn 17th February 2018, 07:22 PM

That is low af

Posted by: omrimayo 17th February 2018, 07:33 PM

True, plus Drake is super super hot, so...

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 17th February 2018, 08:46 PM

Like, he has 0 appeal in anyway - in every aspect there are better musicians out there

He got there through being Wheelchair Jimmy basically

And come off it - Britney's WHOLE CAREER was based on looks

Posted by: T Boy 17th February 2018, 08:47 PM

Baby One More Time was a tune though?

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 17th February 2018, 08:49 PM

And how did they market it exactly?

Everything about it was based on style/ looks, so it IS one metric when talking aboot musicians, as we've seen them base whole careers around it

Drake's average voice, rap, looks, etc, do not compete with loads of others out there

Posted by: T Boy 17th February 2018, 08:52 PM

Lots of artists are good looking and use that fact to attempt to sell their music though. Doesn’t always work.

Besides, I’d wager the majority of people that bought BOMT didnt do so because they fancied Britney.

Not everyone is shallow minded.

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 17th February 2018, 08:58 PM

Yah

It's ONE aspect

Drake has nothin remotely distinguishing about him or his pedestrian music

Wheelchair Jimmy is nuttin special

Posted by: T Boy 17th February 2018, 09:00 PM

In YOUR opinion. Also mine. I don’t like Drake. Many do. Get over it.

Posted by: The Snake 17th February 2018, 09:01 PM

Who is Wheelchair Jimmy?

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 17th February 2018, 09:01 PM

Yah and he's rubbish

The only reason he got where he is is due to past fame, as there are FAR better rappers/ singers out there

Wheelchair Jimmy = Drake

Drake = Wheelchair Jimmy

Posted by: ML Hammer95 17th February 2018, 09:03 PM

Speaking for myself, I find the lyrics in a lot of Drake songs very relatable. Songs like 'Passionfruit', 'With You' and 'Take Care' in particular.

Posted by: T Boy 17th February 2018, 09:04 PM

Past fame? Most people don’t know who wheelchair Jimmy is.

He’s made music that connects with people. Just stop trying to rationalise the success of music you don’t like. I don’t care if you’re buddy or charmed of t seet, you do not have superior music taste to anyone else, and people listen to the music they like.

Posted by: Midge 17th February 2018, 09:04 PM

"God's Plan" is God-awful but Drake has had some great mainstream tracks in the past... "Hotline Bling", "One Dance", "Passionfruit", "Find Your Love", "Hold On, We're Going Home" etc. He's got a very distinct sound and has built a following. Hence why we're being put through one of the worst number 1s in ages now. But some obviously like it, just like Geri Halliwell fans liked "Bag It Up".

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 17th February 2018, 09:06 PM

Bitch, stop coming for me

He got to where he is to even get to make it because of past fame!!

That's what let him break through over better rappers - what don't you get about that?

Wheelchair Jimmy was far more famous in the US anyway - which let him break through

'Rihanna, who do you want, this guy who is already famous, or this unknown rapper?' 'Hmm'

'Record producers, he is already famous, or you can have this unknown rapper' 'Hmmm'

Posted by: T Boy 17th February 2018, 09:13 PM

Yeah but so what to all of that? Why shouldn’t he use any platform possible to get ahead? Any singer would, it’s not easy out there.

The fact is, people are enjoying Drake’s music. If he was truly as objectively awful as you are trying to force everyone to believe, he wouldn’t be so successful. You literally give the music loving public no credit. They can think for themselves and can choose what to listen to.

Posted by: Lomadz 17th February 2018, 09:33 PM

The Drake song has grown on me massively, he can't do no wrong.

Posted by: mdh 17th February 2018, 09:34 PM

ive literally never heard of wheelchair jimmy

Posted by: BridgeCow 17th February 2018, 09:41 PM

yeah what's a wheelchair jimmy lol

Posted by: Bré 17th February 2018, 09:53 PM

It's the character Drake played on Degrassi in his career as an actor before he went into music.

Posted by: Euphorique 17th February 2018, 10:05 PM

Back when he was known as Aubrey Graham

Posted by: T Boy 17th February 2018, 10:07 PM

The fact that most people here seemed unaware of that just shows how it’s had little bearing on his UK success.

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 17th February 2018, 10:08 PM

I repeat*: he broke through because of it

Why people then liked his beige music afterwards is beyond me

But then people also liked Westlife (but now laugh at them with the rest of us), sooo he isn't Westlife levels of awful tbh

Posted by: mdh 17th February 2018, 10:18 PM

but nobody will be laughing at Drake in ten years time - he's managed to have hits that span multiple genres over nearly a decade and he's widely known as a really nice guy so there's no denying his starpower and success, whether you like his music or not.

Posted by: danG 17th February 2018, 10:18 PM

iTunes thread cleaned. any off topic ramblings can go in here.

Posted by: jazzy_765 17th February 2018, 10:18 PM

I don't get the popularity of the Drake song. I find it bland and forgettable. :/

Posted by: Cody On Ice 17th February 2018, 10:28 PM

can we not at this degrassi slander plz

And stop comparing Drake to Westlife, the former actually has good material

Posted by: Dexton 18th February 2018, 12:22 AM

Drake > Westlife anyday tbh

Posted by: Tombo 18th February 2018, 06:01 AM

Westlife actually do have good songs so let's not hate them!

Posted by: Dircadirca 18th February 2018, 07:30 AM

Without 40, Oli, there'd be no me ~

Posted by: marcin 18th February 2018, 11:45 AM

Drake is rubbish, so is Westlife but I'd choose the latter any day simply because I can't stand urban/rap music.

Posted by: Bré 18th February 2018, 03:00 PM

People comparing Drake to Westlife. What a time to be alive.

Posted by: Chez Wombat 18th February 2018, 03:09 PM

As if Drake could ever come up with an iconic classic like Flying Without Wings *.*

Posted by: danG 18th February 2018, 03:21 PM

Pun intended?

Posted by: T Boy 18th February 2018, 03:23 PM

Shouldn’t we be using this thread to shade artists everyone hates? Like Jessie J?

Posted by: danG 18th February 2018, 03:24 PM

Jessie J isn't relevant enough to get shaded anymore, just look at the iTunes chart 'success' she's been getting recently.

I.e. We don't need to shade her, the music buying public does that for us.

Posted by: Doctor Blind 18th February 2018, 03:26 PM

Fun fact: Drake and Westlife have both spent 20 weeks at number 1 in the UK, despite Drake having 11 fewer number 1s!

Posted by: danG 18th February 2018, 03:27 PM

Only a true king. Officially bigger than Westlife ever were. Amazing.

Posted by: Bré 18th February 2018, 03:36 PM

Of course xx

Posted by: Tombo 18th February 2018, 04:11 PM

Don't even try it, she rocks

Posted by: Bjork 18th February 2018, 04:18 PM

saddens me than drake can get an insta #1 with such a lazy effort
and far more talented people like frank ocean has never had a solo top 40 :/

Posted by: Bré 18th February 2018, 04:25 PM

Frank Ocean did have a #1 album though x He's just not a singles artist.

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 18th February 2018, 05:07 PM

THIS!!

Fact that Westlife and Drake have dominated shows there's no accounting for taste

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 18th February 2018, 07:14 PM

Erm... do you have examples to support this rather outrageous claim?

Posted by: Tombo 18th February 2018, 07:24 PM

World Of Our Own, Flying Without Wings, Uptown Girl to name a few

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 18th February 2018, 07:27 PM

I'll give you 'World Of Our Own', but aside from that one song they were monstrous! If crimes against music were punishable by law they'd have had multiple life sentences.

Posted by: danG 18th February 2018, 07:51 PM

Uptown Girl is awful, even the Billy Joel original actually (a true stain on his discography) but especially the Westlife cover. :/

I do quite like their You Raise Me Up though, shoot me.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 18th February 2018, 07:53 PM

Loading Gun now

Posted by: danG 18th February 2018, 07:54 PM

How can you deny a song with two key changes though!!1

Posted by: Bré 18th February 2018, 07:55 PM

Flying Without Wings is a tune and I will not hear otherwise tbh

Posted by: Jonjo 18th February 2018, 08:14 PM

Lucky for you, she's actually smashing it in China atm. Well on a talent show anyway! 🙃

Posted by: cqmerqn 18th February 2018, 08:18 PM

Ed Sheeran is a maggot

Posted by: JosephSprayberry 18th February 2018, 08:18 PM

I think reports would verify he's actually a human being

Posted by: Dobbo 18th February 2018, 08:23 PM

Speaking of Westlife, Amazing is my fave of theirs. Not a fan of most of their stuff but they had had a few decent boyband tracks like Fool Again & Swear It Again (as much as I want to hate the latter for keeping Right Here, Right Now off #1).

Posted by: Lomadz 18th February 2018, 08:31 PM

Really liked Amazing, Us against the world, Unbreakable and a few others. They had a lot of money backing them and the quality of songs proved that. Sadly they get knocked because of just how successful they were and people love to hate, especially boybands.

Posted by: ML Hammer95 18th February 2018, 08:32 PM

I remember loving 'Amazing' when it came out! To be fair, it still sounds alright now too.

Backstreet Boys and Blue are the more defining childhood boy bands for me... doesn't get more defining than 'I Want It That Way'.

Posted by: M4NG0 18th February 2018, 08:39 PM

I'm not a big fan of 'God's Plan' compared to some of his other work, but this really is the most pointless thread I've seen for a long time.

Posted by: JosephSprayberry 18th February 2018, 09:37 PM

Renamed the topic - feel free to use it as an "artist bashing" thread if you wish but check the pointers I've added in post 1!

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 18th February 2018, 09:38 PM

Seriously?

All I ever thought during the whole sorry episode is they had a few years where Louis Walsh knew that they could release ANYTHING and it'd do well regardless, so in the cheapest way cut corners with the end result being the most ultimate cheap tat. I don't see any "quality" with the majority of their output whatsoever.

Posted by: Lomadz 18th February 2018, 09:49 PM

Oh definitely towards the end but the first few albums had a lot out into them and they had big tours. It got tiresome in the last few years and it felt like they were just releasing a cover followed by an album for easy money. First 3-4 years though was different imo and they had some decent pop songs written for them although obviously not everyone's taste. I had a best mate that was a massive fan and stuck up for them a lot so maybe image bit defensive.

The Drake abuse is odd, he does well and his streaming is crazy but once again. He's not everyone's taste. I find his singles good but albums terrible but once again it's opinions.

Issue I have is that. All for constructive criticism towards artists but the nastiness that gets written by some is pointless and not needed.

I can't stand Jessie J for example but just don't listen to her or think about her....pretty simple.

Posted by: gavindeejay 18th February 2018, 09:50 PM

World of our own and Bop Bop Baby are my favourite Westlife songs. Drakes only good song is ‘Hold on we’re Going Home’.

Posted by: Lomadz 18th February 2018, 09:55 PM

'Over' easily my favourite Drake song.

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 20th February 2018, 05:54 PM

WHAAAT!!

Westlife have NO good songs

They are a cheap karaoke coverband with NO quality

Posted by: Mack. 20th February 2018, 10:40 PM

Seems any hip hop track can go Top40 thanks to streaming. Clearly Drake has got a massive following in the UK, and will continue to.

Posted by: Tombo 21st February 2018, 04:47 AM

They aren't a coverband though as manhy of their original tracks have been mentioned in this thread.

Posted by: Dircadirca 21st February 2018, 03:22 PM

What I found interesting looking at the thread about difference in sales/official peaks is that not much more than a year ago, Drake's song with 21 Savage "Sneakin'" was a sales top 40 hit, but floundered on streaming and didn't even hit the top 75 officially. Feels so foreign to me that it's not the other way around! (also Sneakin' >>>> Fake Love smh)

Posted by: marcin 21st February 2018, 08:29 PM

This Timberlake guy is finally flopping, it feels like I have been waiting decades for it to happen.
Such a dreadful artist!

Posted by: Lomadz 21st February 2018, 08:51 PM

Timberlake smashing it, a real legend. His tour has sold out so loads more dates have been added. So big it's untrue.

Posted by: Lomadz 21st February 2018, 09:07 PM

JT performance was different class, he just put a few more dates on and they will sell in seconds. So incredible to see what he's doing in 2018. Wow.

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 21st February 2018, 10:24 PM

THIS!!

Absolutely terrible.

Just male privilege that he is where he is.

Posted by: Lomadz 21st February 2018, 10:31 PM

Really enjoyable Brits. Rita to get a boost with Stormzy. JT showed just how great he is tonight and should get to no1.....brilliant performance. Everyone I watched with was amazed at how he is still so good. Legend is an understatement.

Posted by: Lomadz 21st February 2018, 10:33 PM

Why didn't Sam Smith perform Pray? Massive disappointment, could have been huge.

Posted by: cqmerqn 21st February 2018, 10:33 PM

His miming was SO good

Posted by: T Boy 21st February 2018, 10:38 PM

It’s funny though how you only come to this thread when he’s being discussed

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 21st February 2018, 10:45 PM

Ed Sheeran is WAY more relevant and FAR bigger than Justin Whinealake. He will increase on Spotify. He's not a relic of the past, so won't just rise on itunes.

Posted by: Lomadz 21st February 2018, 11:20 PM

Timberlake really is having a great time at the moment. Tour is massive beyond belief...very proud. Talent has won this time.

Posted by: cqmerqn 22nd February 2018, 08:35 AM

I think you’re overhyping him

If people cared about him THAT much then his album would’ve debuted with much bigger sales... rather than on the same levels of Lorde, HAIM, Katy Perry etc... can’t even get bigger numbers than Lana Del Rey and Camila Cabello.

Posted by: Tombo 22nd February 2018, 09:00 AM

I'm sure it's his plethora of incredible songs that got him where he is

Posted by: SmileyKylie 3rd March 2018, 10:55 AM

Kylie is currently in Cuba filming 2nd single video 'Stop Me From Falling' Seen a clip and it looks fun and she looks fantastic again. Song also sounds a bit more upbeat and euphoric!

Posted by: sammy01 3rd March 2018, 01:29 PM

God I cant wait till 3 weeks after Kylie's album has been released and it has left the charts and the useless posting about her can stop.

Posted by: JosephSprayberry 3rd March 2018, 03:54 PM

This kinda thing should be posted in her AF!

Posted by: danG 3rd March 2018, 04:02 PM

Was originally posted in the top 100 thread with zero context before I moved it

Posted by: SKOB 3rd March 2018, 04:25 PM

Who still thinks Meghan Trainor is relevant?

No Excuses opened worse than the new CHVRCHES single in US Spotify

Posted by: JosephSprayberry 3rd March 2018, 04:26 PM

America obviously, where her new single is #3 on iTunes and she scored two top 15 hits last era

Posted by: danG 3rd March 2018, 04:29 PM

Moved to off topic thread, let free all your Meghan trainor ramblings here!

Posted by: Doctor Blind 3rd March 2018, 04:31 PM

BuzzJack saviour Darius' “Colourblind” has just been reviewed on Freakytrigger's Popular column (which aims to review every #1 ever) and I am LIVING for James Masteron's bitchy comments underneath.

Posted by: Regina 3rd March 2018, 04:41 PM

God Jesus you are a little misery guts. Lighten up.

Posted by: T Boy 3rd March 2018, 04:54 PM

I agree, can’t stand people talking about artists they like. They should shut up about it because it bores me. It’s not like I can just skip over their posts or anything

Posted by: SmileyKylie 9th March 2018, 09:43 PM

I still think the Gente De Zona mix is the main push for a single top 40 here for Kylie for Stop Me From Falling. The video is made around this and she has gone to Cuba etc to film so I am sure they will push that next week. It should bring the song to life even more

Posted by: JosephSprayberry 9th March 2018, 09:45 PM

Gente De Zona have one top 100 hit in the UK - #75 hit Bailando with Enrique Iglesias back in 2014. They have no name power and I don't think they'd boost the song at all.

I love Kylie and really like the song but let's not set unrealistic expectations!

Posted by: Mart!n 9th March 2018, 09:48 PM

Random post...

Keep on meaning to say, I love your signature, its that really you with the long hair

Posted by: Regina 9th March 2018, 10:18 PM

Yes that's why she hasn't publically announced that they are on the remix, or that a remix exists and why she is only talking about the solo version....

Posted by: SmileyKylie 9th March 2018, 10:44 PM

I never said Gente De Zona are big in UK...... But the sound of the song is different and I said the video will bring the song to life even more.

Why would you do a video of the remix etc and not want to push it!? Did know one see the clips last week? There are people in other forums saying it doesn't sound very Latino etc...... That's because BMG etc have not released this version yet.....

Anyway let's see.... It is only my opinion....

Posted by: Midge 10th March 2018, 03:11 AM

U sure hun?

Posted by: SmileyKylie 10th March 2018, 07:22 AM

For those doubting me that Kylie has shot video with Gente De Zona and an edgier Latino cut of Stop Me from Falling here is a clip on the link http://www.rmscanal.tv/noticias/kylie-minogue-se-pasa-al-reggaeton-gente-zona/

Posted by: ElectroBoy 10th March 2018, 07:47 AM

Isn’t there a Kylie forum for all this sort of stuff?

Posted by: Bjork 10th March 2018, 08:24 AM

whats the point of having a kylie forum if you post any random thought that crosses your mind in here, no one cares

Posted by: danG 10th March 2018, 09:06 AM

iTunes thread cleaned again, posts moved here. We do indeed have a Kylie Minogue forum too.

Posted by: pes 10th March 2018, 09:51 AM

can anyone explain what's happen when you follow someone on spotify...because to me does not seem to have any difference, no notifications about new music or appearing on the dashboard etc.

Posted by: danG 10th March 2018, 09:53 AM

They used to give you notifications when they released new music but they scrapped that in favour of a personalised 'Release Radar' playlist that has a selection of songs by artists you follow (as well as some that you don't) which appears on the home page every Friday.

Posted by: pes 10th March 2018, 10:03 AM

that's it right..pretty useless honestly, the songs I have there are not even up to date

Posted by: Poldi_vigo 10th March 2018, 03:31 PM

I am so tired of Drake. Drake better out of the music scene, please

Posted by: danG 10th March 2018, 03:35 PM

He's been a high profile rapper since 2009 and is still at the top of his game, so the chances of Drake leaving the music scene anytime soon are very very very small.

Posted by: sammy01 11th March 2018, 01:43 PM

Is there not artist forums for that? I have no interest in Kylie yet currently I know what her next single is, where she filmed it, who it features, every remix of every song and when she last had a shit.

It isn't chart related which this part of the forum is supposed to be about.

Posted by: Tombo 11th March 2018, 02:03 PM

B*Witched's Champagne or Guinness EP has so many good tracks!!!

Posted by: Regina 11th March 2018, 02:13 PM

Knowing what her single is and other versions IS chart related :/ it's the same thing that gets discussed about with other artists too.

Posted by: danG 11th March 2018, 02:25 PM

And most of us have no interest in you constantly moaning about Kylie being discussed in the chart forum when she's in the chart. Most of the Kylie posts are relevant to the chart forum, the select few that aren't will be moved to the off topic thread.

Posted by: sammy01 11th March 2018, 02:46 PM

Kylie is not relevant to any chart chat 🙈

Posted by: T Boy 11th March 2018, 03:16 PM

I guess everyone will start listening to you when you become a chart moderator. If Kylie is currently releasing new music then she is relevant to Chart Chat. You actually could just skip posts rather than attempt to bend everyone to your will. If Kylie discussion is pushing you away from the site then bye. I doubt many will miss you.